Wildgoose Chase Moto Guzzi

General Category => Bike Builds, Rebuilds And Restorations Only => Topic started by: Dave Swanson on May 22, 2020, 07:12:03 AM

Title: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 22, 2020, 07:12:03 AM
I just acquired a bike that has been on my wish list for many years, a 1980 T3 California.   Patrick Hayes put me in touch with a friend of his in San Francisco that had this bike languishing in garage for 20 years.  The timing was right and the owner agreed to sell.   My plan is to restore it to full T3 California spec including the love it or hate it skunk seat.   :azn:

Even the garden variety T3 which used to be commonly available has become quite scarce.  It seems that 850Ts and T3s are being snapped up by the customizing crowd.   The T3 FB -foot board was imported by Guzzi, but has always been less common than the plain jane T3,  The California model is extremely rare in the USA (although fairly common in Europe), since it was never imported by Guzzi. 

The only California models in the USA were brought in by European Guzzi owners when re-locating to the US.  True to form this California was imported to the US by a Brit named Simon Spark of San Francisco, who sold it 20 years ago to a fellow SF area Guzzi guy who owned it until I purchased it. 

Here is the Brit plate that came with the bike. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/TPN2d3JF/IMG-6726.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1g61MPTr)

Its a solid, mostly unmodified unit from what I can tell so far, but it has plenty of evidence of hard use.  This wasn't a garage queen.  From telltale evidence it appears the Brit owner rode this a lot.  I am sure the speedo has turned over.  There is too much overall "patina" to believe this bike has only 12,000 miles.

(https://i.postimg.cc/52kDjYDB/thumbnail-IMG-6680.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnV9FT6H)

I will start out this restoration thread by documenting the as found condition.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdSSjSKn/IMG-6681.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRJ2JXPQ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxxMp6zX/IMG-6711.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tn0vYjJY)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Groover on May 22, 2020, 07:38:33 AM
Watching  :thumb:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Scout63 on May 23, 2020, 05:57:34 AM
This will be a great build thread. An excellent looking bike Dave.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: s1120 on May 23, 2020, 07:15:09 AM
Looks like a solid start! So you doing a full on, nut and bolt resto?? 

BTW MAN I used to love that tire combo back in the day!!  The 99/33 combo worked so well on the standard bikes.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 23, 2020, 07:29:00 AM
Looks like a solid start! So you doing a full on, nut and bolt resto?? 

BTW MAN I used to love that tire combo back in the day!!  The 99/33 combo worked so well on the standard bikes.
Yes, full on resto, down to the gnats ass.   :laugh:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Klinkhammer on May 24, 2020, 01:56:42 PM
Congrats! They are great bikes. However, I never got on with the windshield -to much turbulence. I finally cut it down so i got clean air to the head/helmet (see photos).
I always thought the police livery looked really cool so I got black stripes from Stein Dinse. And who says a motorcycle always have to be black?!
It had open Dunstall pipes on it. Ridiculously loud.
Now sold.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkSZrLL/IMG-5725.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkSZrLL)

(https://i.ibb.co/F5r55Lj/IMG-1422.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F5r55Lj)

(https://i.ibb.co/8Y8bvRZ/IMG-3901.png) (https://ibb.co/8Y8bvRZ)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 24, 2020, 05:19:50 PM
Congrats! They are great bikes. However, I never got on with the windshield -to much turbulence. I finally cut it down so i got clean air to the head/helmet (see photos).
I always thought the police livery looked really cool so I got black stripes from Stein Dinse. And who says a motorcycle always have to be black?!
It had open Dunstall pipes on it. Ridiculously loud.
Now sold.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkSZrLL/IMG-5725.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkSZrLL)

(https://i.ibb.co/F5r55Lj/IMG-1422.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F5r55Lj)

(https://i.ibb.co/8Y8bvRZ/IMG-3901.png) (https://ibb.co/8Y8bvRZ)


Beatiful T3 Cali!  You are right, white looks very good!  Sorry to hear that it is sold.  I hope you got something nice to replace it. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Klinkhammer on May 25, 2020, 01:29:28 PM
I hope you got something nice to replace it.

Thank you!
I did!
(https://i.ibb.co/zfKpRSn/IMG-1272.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zfKpRSn)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 25, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Thank you!
I did!
(https://i.ibb.co/zfKpRSn/IMG-1272.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zfKpRSn)


WOW!  I would say it was a fine swap of bikes!  Although I like them both very much.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Rick4003 on June 15, 2020, 11:48:56 PM
Hi Dave,

Great to see you back at it with another bike. If you're interested I have a new mint condition skunk seat that I'm not going to use. It came with my ambassador, but it doesn't really look or fit right. Not sure it makes sense to ship across the pond though.

Good luck with the rebuild and I am looking forward to follow

-Ulrik
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: rutgery on June 16, 2020, 03:38:59 PM
I'm looking forward to the build!   :thumb: Did the original rear panniers come with the bike? They are very hard to find (even in Europe) as they like to crack at the hinge..
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on June 19, 2020, 05:38:21 AM
I'm looking forward to the build!   :thumb: Did the original rear panniers come with the bike? They are very hard to find (even in Europe) as they like to crack at the hinge..

Yes,  I have the original bags.  One has the classic crack at the hinge.  I am looking for one. 

This is my good one. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/0y36T5ry/IMG-6738.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsN4JLbf)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: LesP on June 19, 2020, 06:16:52 AM
Great project Dave and you will bring it back to its former glory for sure.  :thumb:

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
You know the plate number still comes up in a UK Rego check, first registered February 1980.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on June 19, 2020, 07:47:55 AM
Great project Dave and you will bring it back to its former glory for sure.  :thumb:

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
You know the plate number still comes up in a UK Rego check, first registered February 1980.

Very interesting!  Thanks
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on July 04, 2020, 08:38:10 PM
The big teardown is about to begin.  Since cadmium plating is so expensive I decided to combine the T3 bits with the Lemans. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/0Qhs55Ds/IMG-7015-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygh5vHLQ)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on July 04, 2020, 09:57:54 PM
Are you doing true cadmium plating or trivalent yellow chromate or trivalent clear chromate ("bright zinc plating")? AFAIK, Guzzi hardware was all done in trivalent clear chromate.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on July 05, 2020, 04:53:49 AM
I have always had cadmium.  There is only one place locally that still does cad plating but it is expensive now.  I may do zinc this time.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Klinkhammer on July 05, 2020, 12:21:43 PM
The place where I get my hardware done identified it as bright zinc plating. I hope they got it right!

I replaced the skunk seat cover on my Cali but wasnít completely happy with it. The Guzzi logo on the back was slightly misaligned, and once youíve seen that sort of thing you canít un-see it.

AlsoÖ I see some nasty corrosion from the battery. Hope it is not so bad.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on July 05, 2020, 08:00:23 PM
I am lucky to have an industrial plating shop that serves the oil and natural gas industry, they plate clear Cad, gold Cad, and bright zinc. The owner is a gear head who plates all my parts, and he is Italian! Owner old me the Guzzi hardware was bright zinc plated, this is what I go with on my builds.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on July 10, 2020, 03:39:40 PM
I received the instruments back from Palo Alto Speedometer Service.    Wonderful work!!!

Before

(https://i.postimg.cc/52kDjYDB/thumbnail-IMG-6680.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnV9FT6H)

After

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRRpS1fr/thumbnail-IMG-7075.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: g5guzzi on July 11, 2020, 03:43:47 PM
Hi Dave
just out of curiosity i put your British reg no in the
DVLA website  and according to it your bike  was
first registered in February 1980 and has not been
taxed in the UK since April 1983.

Malc
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on July 11, 2020, 04:42:24 PM
Hi Dave
just out of curiosity i put your British reg no in the
DVLA website  and according to it your bike  was
first registered in February 1980 and has not been
taxed in the UK since April 1983.

Malc

 :thumb:

Fits into the timetable
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on July 31, 2020, 06:19:47 PM
The tank and side panels are now with the painter, along with the striping, and panel marking kits.   I am really looking forward to seeing the finished product. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 02, 2020, 08:53:34 PM
It's a grimy beast!!  Teardown is in earnest.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZyLFxbR/IMG-7190.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBVHxJKj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jqBcQrf5/IMG-7198.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3ST860Z)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ydkhcfYc/IMG-7193.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ppn8kQD5)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 03, 2020, 07:48:15 PM
I gave the T3 a real treat.  I found a set of NOS mufflers in the Netherlands.  The arrived today.   

These had been on the shelf a LONG time!

(https://i.postimg.cc/TPcB7F3W/IMG-7204.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1Yr7rPX)

A quick polish session and voila!

(https://i.postimg.cc/LX6wrDJQ/IMG-E7206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBVXDkJv)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Klinkhammer on August 05, 2020, 04:52:49 AM
Grimy indeed, but does not seem to be very molested.
Very pretty mufflers! Great find!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: kfz on August 05, 2020, 07:31:24 AM
LLH  - London. 

your bike was registered in London.  Bit of trophy for the garage wall.  You may find you need to stop for Tea about 4.00 ish when on a ride.  Normal.

Kev
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 11, 2020, 05:20:06 PM
This bike is so grimy that it takes 2 days of hand washing to get the hands clean looking again.  The discovery phase is fun though.

(https://i.postimg.cc/RFzckHvs/IMG-7232-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJpzxhzT)

The stator is cracked.  EldoMike is sending me another.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MpTt5VG1/IMG-7235.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLb8t7r0)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Tiny Tim on August 11, 2020, 05:46:51 PM
Hey Dave

Wow great find and it looks in nice condition.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: blackcat on August 12, 2020, 09:09:47 AM
I gave the T3 a real treat.  I found a set of NOS mufflers in the Netherlands.  The arrived today.   

These had been on the shelf a LONG time!

(https://i.postimg.cc/TPcB7F3W/IMG-7204.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1Yr7rPX)

A quick polish session and voila!

(https://i.postimg.cc/LX6wrDJQ/IMG-E7206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBVXDkJv)

Wow, were these on eBay?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 12, 2020, 09:21:26 AM
Wow, were these on eBay?

Got them from a friend in the Netherlands
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 17, 2020, 04:21:02 PM
Super stoked.  I picked up the tank and side panels today. 

Before

(https://i.postimg.cc/VkZHJSSk/IMG-6681-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tRdShv1f/IMG-6681-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

After

(https://i.postimg.cc/0QDtXcVz/IMG-7273.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MMZbvb2w)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: LesP on August 17, 2020, 04:35:02 PM
Fantastic  :thumb:  (1970 Bonneville ?)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 17, 2020, 05:55:21 PM
Fantastic  :thumb:  (1970 Bonneville ?)

He said 69.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on August 17, 2020, 08:41:43 PM
Nice! Who did the paint?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 17, 2020, 10:33:06 PM
Nice! Who did the paint?

My go to painter for all my bikes, Craig the owner of Paintworks in Loves Park, IL.  I am blessed to have him 5 minutes away from my house. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: LesP on August 17, 2020, 10:35:15 PM
He said 69.

The non silver fenders / guards threw me off but that might have been an option.  :thumb:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 20, 2020, 03:55:04 PM
Zinc plating is back.  I combined the Lemans and the California in one batch.  It still met the $75 minimum charge. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/vHJGC56F/IMG-7292.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crcqngmX)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Groover on August 21, 2020, 07:20:49 AM
All looks great, loving that pile of freshly zinc plated hardware. Some of those parts were originally chromed, right? How do they handle all that, you take them the rust and dirty hardware and they ?(sandblast)? then zinc coat them, or did you have to take it them in clean? The reason I ask is because my powder-coated charged me an extra 50 because my center stand was oily/crudded and he had to give it to another place where they dipped it to clean it first as he wouldn't run gunky stuff in his sandblaster setup - fair enough I guess..
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 21, 2020, 03:28:32 PM
None of the parts I sent for zinc plating were chromed.   I set those to the side. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 22, 2020, 04:43:27 PM
Emblems and trim pieces on!  WOW! Are these nice!  If I do say so myself.   :grin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx4Y8wSP/IMG-7295.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBj5PYtN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/15wN89Q6/IMG-7297-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BXZvyftQ)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Groover on August 22, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Agreed, great paint job!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 25, 2020, 08:05:22 PM
A small but satisfying task completed.   The fuel "door" had been destroyed by forcing it off of the tank.  I assume because the key was not present. 

I found a new door, the locksmith was able to cut a key based on the numbers on the tumbler, the door was painted with the rest of the tins. 

Nice to have this complete!

(https://i.postimg.cc/JnvCvYG9/IMG-7307.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGfPy8K8)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: berniebee on August 26, 2020, 10:23:40 AM
Looking really nice!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 26, 2020, 04:48:00 PM
The wheels are some of the grimiest I have seen in awhile.  It will make the before and after shots more impressive. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/8cvgSdvs/IMG-7308.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRqPGrQL)

(https://i.postimg.cc/664XnKPw/IMG-7309.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMxgfyZw)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 31, 2020, 08:05:47 PM
It still has the manual chain tensioner.  I am ordering a new chain.  I have a new spring loaded "automatic" tensioner left over that I will use. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/tT6K2L8c/IMG-7340.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ftwqbgz7)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 12, 2020, 08:01:47 AM
I have made contact with the Brit owner!  He still lives in San Francisco and has a successful business in home renovation. 

This is what I have learned about the bike so far.

He bought it in (late) 1980, he remembers it to be a used bike about 1 year old when he bought it.

The bike was ridden about 2 years England before moving to the States. 

The speedo has turned over once, so there is 112K miles on it.  He had the engine overhauled at 80,000 miles. 

More to come during our planned phone conversations. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 20, 2020, 07:21:10 AM
Before

(https://i.postimg.cc/D023BqnS/IMG-7178-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KksWY3Kb)

After

(https://i.postimg.cc/nzfJ9yWY/IMG-7416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBmPRyhH)

The whole engine will have this appearance eventually.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 26, 2020, 11:13:46 AM
A very nice step to have complete.  I picked up the frame and other black bits today after blast and paint.  Another great job performed by Paintworks!

(https://i.postimg.cc/4x5YJMzY/IMG-7446.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvvrRdD7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Z9zZyk/IMG-7448.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QH4Nc2bS)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: LesP on September 26, 2020, 05:15:59 PM
Fantabulous Dave.  :thumb: :thumb:

RD bits on the shelf ?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 26, 2020, 06:03:10 PM


RD bits on the shelf ?

RZ bits.   

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJwp1cfb/IMG-7447-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TL3dpbN7)

Craig is also working on this 70 Bonneville tank.

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnzjdYvv/IMG-7449.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHyRQLLj)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 07, 2020, 06:36:28 AM
I sprung for a set of NOS fork lowers from Harpers.  The old ones are quite beat up.  These new ones have some shelf wear but will be much easier to deal with than the old.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRj2FQp0/IMG-7475.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQQT3wnR)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 24, 2020, 11:55:32 AM
Now that the Lemans is about as far as I can go until I can ride it I am looking forward to tearing into this filthy beast to see what I have.

(https://i.postimg.cc/y8sX5cb4/IMG-7561.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPVwvpH2)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on October 24, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
What's going on where the studs thread into the crankcase? It almost looks like Helicoils or maybe just o-rings?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 24, 2020, 01:18:36 PM
What's going on where the studs thread into the crankcase? It almost looks like Helicoils or maybe just o-rings?

Orings.  It seems as though whoever last assembled this went overboard with orings!!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 24, 2020, 05:02:36 PM
Engine teardown and inspection complete.   Pleased to report that the crank is on it's original grind and still in good shape - all dimensions within spec.  All the front/rear and shell bearings are in fine shape.  Camshaft lobes look excellent. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/PrtH2rk3/IMG-7565.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4sCYbjB)

This engine was overhauled when it had about 100k+ miles by Moss Machine in San Francisco.  The rings and main bearings were replaced.   After conferring with Charlie it seems like these  barrels were Nigusil plated by Moto Guzzi.  1980 was the timeframe that Nigusil began.  The barrels have a slight magnetic pull.

It appears that the shop used a coarse ball hone when they gave it new rings.  The crosshatch is pretty heavy!  This also implies that the barrels and pistons have 130k miles on them.  I will replace them.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mDffMTwS/IMG-7566.png) (https://postimg.cc/SXrvbFHX)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: BikeMike on October 26, 2020, 09:45:45 PM
Hi Dave,

What type of paint was used on the frame?  It looks very good.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 27, 2020, 07:36:09 AM
Hi Dave,

What type of paint was used on the frame?  It looks very good.

Thanks

Mike

Mike, I would have to ask the painter.  I know he uses a clear topcoat also, but it is not the typical basecoat/clearcoat paint. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 28, 2020, 06:08:03 PM
Now this looks a bit better!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/6qrdVK5g/IMG-7574.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8fCJDqvm)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on October 28, 2020, 08:39:02 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 31, 2020, 08:04:56 AM
The sludge trap was about 1/8th full.   The sludge trap threaded plug turned out with no resistance!

(https://i.postimg.cc/JnsdhgqS/IMG-7576.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njt1R3N1)

(https://i.postimg.cc/43BYB2pL/IMG-7575.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2qLj5wch)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 31, 2020, 08:07:09 AM
These are the engine assembly errors I have found which occurred at about 100k miles which was 30k miles ago.

Sludge trap threaded plug - loose, no Loctite.

When replacing rings the Nigusil plated barrels were severely cross hatch honed leaving deep hatch marks.  Honing of Nigusil barrels is not recommended when replacing rings.  Certainly not with such a coarse stone.  Oil consumption must have went up after that hone job!

(https://i.postimg.cc/50QnJz9V/IMG-7566.png) (https://postimg.cc/CBYjHzfP)

Hollow dowel tubes missing from both front and rear main bearings.   Since the dowels major purpose in life is serving as an anti-rotation device for the bearings leaving them out is risking a total loss of oil to the crankshaft if the bearings turn slightly.   

Rear main bearing was installed with sealant on all surfaces!  This made removal of the main rear bearing much more difficult than necessary! 

When last removing the rotor a soft piece of metal was used in the crank to push the rotor off instead of the proper hardened piece.  This wedged the soft piece in the crankshaft.  Rather than take the extra time to extract the soft piece the rotor bolt threads were shortened!  It only required 10 minutes to set up the crankshaft in my drill press to drill a pilot hole and remove the piece with an Easy Out. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/j5B3nX32/IMG-7580.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgMBVQSG)

A substantial amount of sludge was found in the pan.  One of the pan socket head bolts had the "socket" rounded to the point it was useless.  The bolt required extraction with judicious use of a sharp punch to get it to move.  I am betting that the pan hadn't been dropped since the "overhaul" due to this bolt.

The oil filter was loose enough that a toddler could have turned it.  This filter definitely could have benefited from the hose clamp safety feature, but it wasn't present.  Another near miss avoided! 

And!!  Orings were present on every cylinder head stud at the base gasket instead of the required 2 at 12 and 6 o'clock.  I guess the mechanic thought more was better!   :rolleyes:

(https://i.postimg.cc/J0WcWddN/IMG-7561-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nj0Q4Txr)
Title: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on October 31, 2020, 12:10:43 PM
Going together.  The old adjustable fixed timing chain tensioner replaced by a modern "automatic" adjuster with a new chain.

I always appreciate the simple, but elegant engineering that went into the Guzzi V twin.   I was fairly experienced overhauling Harley engines before I attempted my first Guzzi.  I was amazed at how simple the engines are to overhaul.   That simplicity does not come by accident.  The design is an inspired one.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3wbWZWv4/IMG-7582.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZdVjjx4)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on October 31, 2020, 08:02:39 PM
Nice work Dave!  Agreed, the Guzzi V Twin is a very clever and robust design,
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 02, 2020, 09:17:18 AM
I am sure Charlie has seen many worse but this is the grimiest Guzzi I have seen.

Before and after.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T1vgdPGs/IMG-7583.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkQRQx17)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9M7yH93T/IMG-7589.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0qDSKwF)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on November 02, 2020, 03:46:42 PM
I am sure Charlie has seen many worse but this is the grimiest Guzzi I have seen.

Before and after.

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That was pretty bad, just missing a bunch of mud/oil mix caked between the fins!  :grin:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 05, 2020, 03:23:59 PM
I found one more assembly error by the shop that did the 100k mile "overhaul".   

I had marked the flywheel before I removed it for easy reassembly.  When I installed the flywheel this afternoon I double checked to make sure it was in the right position. The shop had assembled it 180 degrees off!   I am scratching my head trying to figure out how they timed the engine!!   
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 10, 2020, 10:18:11 AM
I went through the heads.  They were in great shape.  I good cleanup and they are ready to go. 

The exhaust studs did need replacing though.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sxLMvrvk/IMG-7601.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1Vpmjb0B)

I assembled the valve train but decided the wear on the rocker pivot shafts was enough to warrant replacement.  Hopefully I can button up the top end by the end of week. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/9XgRxGJL/IMG-7602.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z035nykN)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 11, 2020, 01:35:08 PM
I backed up a bit and removed the flywheel to add some JB Weld to the top freeze plug.

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 13, 2020, 03:03:26 PM
The engine is buttoned up.  Looks a bit better now!

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmQf5cgd/IMG-E7629.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZBZhY96)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on November 13, 2020, 03:31:52 PM
The engine is buttoned up.  Looks a bit better now!

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmQf5cgd/IMG-E7629.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZBZhY96)

A little bit of Loopframe goodness added?  :wink:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 13, 2020, 03:46:32 PM
A little bit of Loopframe goodness added?  :wink:

Ha!  I can't get anything by you!   It was on the engine when I tore it down, so it can stay.   :grin:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on November 13, 2020, 05:57:40 PM
It's actually a good upgrade. Never saw one leak.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: jwinwi on November 17, 2020, 02:46:26 PM
The sludge trap was about 1/8th full.   The sludge trap threaded plug turned out with no resistance!

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Ok, I give up. What is this a picture of?  Something to do with the crankshaft sludge trap...
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 17, 2020, 02:59:37 PM
Ok, I give up. What is this a picture of?  Something to do with the crankshaft sludge trap...

That's what the solidified sludge looks like when you remove it.  Very normal amount. 

And it collects in here. 

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on November 17, 2020, 07:16:48 PM
The sludge residue look familiar, the trap is such a brilliant and simple design.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: s1120 on November 18, 2020, 06:31:57 AM
The sludge residue look familiar, the trap is such a brilliant and simple design.

Ive been around engines my whole life, and never seen one before. Is this common in any other engines? Is it open to the oil gallerys, and CF just flings the heavy junk out?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 18, 2020, 06:39:28 AM
Ive been around engines my whole life, and never seen one before. Is this common in any other engines? Is it open to the oil gallerys, and CF just flings the heavy junk out?

Correct the centrifugal force causes the particles to be forced against the wall of the sludge trap and those that manage to stick don't pass through with the oil. 

With non oil filter Guzzis this is the only "filtration" available.  Most old Brit engines use this method.  All old Triumphs have sludge traps in the crank.  Many old Hondas like the CB350 have a oil slinger that operates the same way.  My 66 BMW R69S has an oil slinger that collect the sludge.  This is the only filtration method used on older BMWs, and I am sure many more. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: jwinwi on November 18, 2020, 11:39:40 AM
That's what the solidified sludge looks like when you remove it.  Very normal amount. 

And it collects in here. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xv2JSTcr/IMG-7662.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJyHbvNm)

Got it. Didn't think the sludge would form a solid mass; I thought it would be more like mud that has to be rinsed out...
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Groover on November 18, 2020, 04:13:49 PM
Ha!  I can't get anything by you!   It was on the engine when I tore it down, so it can stay.   :grin:

I give up, what am I looking for?  :azn:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 18, 2020, 04:39:51 PM
I give up, what am I looking for?  :azn:

It has a Loop frame oil feed pipe to the heads.   :grin:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 21, 2020, 11:41:12 AM
With the arrival of the gaskets for the intakes I was able to finish this up.

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on November 21, 2020, 01:23:21 PM
I'm not a regular on this forum and only just found this Restoration section.  Man, there's some great stuff on here!  I'm enjoying this particular thread Dave as I did a bit of light refurbishment to a T3 Cali in 2016.  Rather stupidly I let one of my friends talk me into selling it to him last year and I replaced it with a V85TT, which really wasn't what I needed.  I do love the T3 Cali.  Looks like it should handle like a canal barge, but has a wonderful nimble chassis.  I look forward to seeing the final result!
Cheers,
Derek

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4315/35946002722_97878909ec_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WLqEgC)DSC_2161 (https://flic.kr/p/WLqEgC) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4320/36073135076_aa0b727a44_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WXEfhL)DSC_2352 (https://flic.kr/p/WXEfhL) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 21, 2020, 01:43:10 PM
Derek,  we certainly started at about the same point.  Light refurbishment indeed!!    I will be happy if mine turns out as well!  I just love the look of the T3 California.   All the bric a brac but still has all the qualities of the early Tontis. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 22, 2020, 05:25:40 PM
I wasn't sure if I could salvage the front rim. 

This is how it looked after an aggressive scrub in the solvent tank.

(https://i.postimg.cc/RCWDzt1G/IMG_7686.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yjw36hsm)

After working my fingers to the bone for a few hours today this is the result.   I was thinking about throwing in the towel and sending the hub to Buchanan to have a nice, new Borrani laced up.  But dodged that expense.   I am retired now so I have more time than money.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wTbTKyCc/IMG_7688.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F73Q3Rs7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx2QmQq0/IMG-7693.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj3fg0XN)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: keener on November 22, 2020, 05:53:03 PM
 :thumb:  good on YOU
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on November 22, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on November 23, 2020, 04:05:37 AM
That's a great job!  I would have sent them for vapour blasting to get them clean and tried polishing from there, but thought of hand polishing those awkward profiles puts me off.  On my T3 the wheel builder mechanically polished the rims, but didn't get the best result.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 23, 2020, 10:53:11 AM
The rear rim went faster.  I was able to start with 2000 grit and then polishing compound.  I was able to finish it while listening to disc 2 of the Allman Brothers at Filmore East which is over 1 hour long.   Mountain Jam being one of the best songs to listen to while polishing known to man.   :cheesy:

I still have 80 spokes and nipples to polish, but the befores and afters are pretty dramatic.

As with most of my restorations the level I aim for is what a very well cared for machine might look like after 40 years or more, rather than trying for the "new" look.   I admire those that can accomplish the new look level, but I never seem to have the patience to take it to that level. 

Rear before.

(https://i.postimg.cc/664XnKPw/IMG-7309.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMxgfyZw)

Rear after.

(https://i.postimg.cc/FRVPkT7Q/IMG-E7697.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygWhwXmf)

Front before.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8cvgSdvs/IMG-7308.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRqPGrQL)

Front after.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx2QmQq0/IMG_7693.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj3fg0XN)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Turin on November 23, 2020, 08:57:28 PM
Making stuff look brand new is all fine and good, but then you can't ride it. god forbid you get a stone chip.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on November 24, 2020, 06:36:57 AM
Making stuff look brand new is all fine and good, but then you can't ride it. god forbid you get a stone chip.

Why can't you ride it?  Just because it's a fine restoration, doesn't mean it can't be used.  A mate of mine's daily ride pictured below.  Value £250k, but he still uses it most days.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50640508533_d47d23e017_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k9VQU6)BS (https://flic.kr/p/2k9VQU6) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 24, 2020, 07:54:49 AM
Why can't you ride it?  Just because it's a fine restoration, doesn't mean it can't be used.  A mate of mine's daily ride pictured below.  Value £250k, but he still uses it most days.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50640508533_d47d23e017_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k9VQU6)BS (https://flic.kr/p/2k9VQU6) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr

Anyone that rides a Brough regularly is my hero!  The ultimate dream bike there. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 24, 2020, 07:55:46 AM
Making stuff look brand new is all fine and good, but then you can't ride it. god forbid you get a stone chip.

The picture is deceptive.  There are plenty of stone dings left intact.   :grin:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 24, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
Before and after.  Only 79 more to go!

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on November 25, 2020, 06:20:54 AM
Were you able to remove all the spokes from the hubs ok Dave?  Mine were very difficult to remove and some of the rear ones I had to cut off and drift them out due to the corrosion between the hub and spoke.  Took me days to complete.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 25, 2020, 07:11:08 AM
Were you able to remove all the spokes from the hubs OK Dave?  Mine were very difficult to remove and some of the rear ones I had to cut off and drift them out due to the corrosion between the hub and spoke.  Took me days to complete.

The all came out OK.  Some were stubborn.   I had sprayed them with penetrating oil and had to knock some of them out with a brass hammer.   Some spokes had the first thread slightly deformed due to the beating with the brass hammer, but a quick dressing up with the grinding wheel followed by a wire wheel I was able to salvage all of them. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 25, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Front wheel is ready for build!  All the spokes and nipples were hand polished on my buffing wheel. 

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 25, 2020, 02:50:24 PM
Kind of a dramatic change now that it is laced up!  Spoke are loosely assembled.  I need to install the bearing hubs before I can start any serious truing.

Its amazing what you can get done at a leisurely pace once retired! :azn:

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Groover on November 25, 2020, 03:29:30 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Solorider73 on November 25, 2020, 05:16:34 PM
Great thread.   :popcorn:

Wish I had the skills, patience and garage space to attempt something like this.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 27, 2020, 07:00:47 AM
Front wheel done - new wheel bearings, new brake discs, trued, and balanced.  Now onto the rear!  I went with Conti Go tires as my favorite Avons are nowhere to be found in the sizes I need. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDkd0d7b/IMG-E7720.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WdCwFPY)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on November 27, 2020, 06:25:40 PM
The rotors look great, did you have TrueDisc refinish them?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: 80CX100 on November 27, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
     Excellent job making those wheels look primo  :thumb: :bow:

      :popcorn:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on November 27, 2020, 09:08:31 PM
The rotors look great, did you have TrueDisc refinish them?

The discs were worn out so new were required.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 01, 2020, 05:39:27 PM
The stainless rear fender was as run down looking as the rest of the bike.  Not wanting to invest in the discs and compounds necessary to do a proper polishing job I brought it to a local guy that does good work.  The price was reasonable.

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 01, 2020, 08:07:02 PM
The stainless fender looks excellent, I don't enjoy polishing, it's very messy and my polishing machine isn't that powerful. Worth paying others for some things.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 03, 2020, 07:52:52 PM
Rear wheel finished.

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Bucky on December 05, 2020, 05:20:30 AM
 :thumb: Impressive work, Dave.  Thanks for documenting this restoration.  Way beyond my capabilities, but I learn a thing or two, and itís fun to see the progression to the final product.  Nice job.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: keener on December 05, 2020, 10:45:32 AM
 :thumb:   Nice work Done 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 15, 2020, 08:01:50 AM
Time to get serious!  The engine is in position.

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Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 15, 2020, 08:12:08 AM
I also have another project that is being worked simultaneously, my 1955 Triumph T110.  The T110 was the hot-rod of the line up in 55. 

Barrels have received their first overvbore in 65 years.  I was able to find NOS .010 T110 ironhead pistons!  These are rare as rocking horse dung.  This way I not only was able to keep the compression ratio stock, but also avoided jumping to .020 over.  No one manufactures new 10 thou over replacement pistons these days.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4yF4jktc/IMG_7445.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LgLMZWx4)

Painted with POR 15 Engine Enamel

(https://i.postimg.cc/XNFG4BkM/IMG_7824.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grzkKJ74)

1955 was the last year for babbitt rods.  Most convert to shell bearing rods, but this alters the balance factor as the shell rods are heavier.

I was able to find a NOS set of babbitt rods - unheard of!  They came from Australia

(https://i.postimg.cc/9QRyh64B/IMG-5788-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1z15bQt)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 15, 2020, 10:50:40 AM
The Por-15 painted parts look great! I really like the Por-15 products, not cheap but you get great results from the brand. Your range of brands and the quality work you turn out is very impressive! British, American and European, do you work on Japanese as well and do you have a favourite manufacturer?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 15, 2020, 11:44:14 AM
Your range of brands and the quality work you turn out is very impressive! British, American and European, do you work on Japanese as well and do you have a favourite manufacturer?

I find most of the manufacturers interesting.  My favorite has become Moto Guzzi because they are so straight forward with a high degree of efficiency of design.   That being said, I am now very interested in Triumph vertical twin engine design.  The vertical twin brought out in 1938 is beyond iconic and had a life span of almost 40 years with essentially no major changes.   Now that I am into the details of rebuilding the engine I am very much appreciating the genius behind it's design

My first venture into full restorations was the Honda CBX.  I fully restored a 1980 and a 1979.  Both started out in rough shape, and both are sold off.  The 1980 turned out so well that I still have a twinge of regret.  But keeping 6 carbs running perfectly on a bike that would not be ridden regularly would be tiring.  The only other Honda I plan to restore is a 1973 CL350 that I picked up in a neighborhood yard sale some years ago.  In other words I am not a dyed in the wool fan of Honda restoring.   And I almost forgot, my 65 150 Dream needs some love one day also.   :grin:

I must say that when you have a  CBX engine completely torn apart on your bench it does impress your friends that stop by.   :grin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtPFQPvC/Scan-20180827.png) (https://postimg.cc/7G3PDBHr)

I have a 1965 BSA Spitfire Hornet rolling basket that I am slowly getting more interested in restoring.  With the help of the latest BSA book to come out, Thunderbolts & Lightning by Peter Crawford I am developing a much higher appreciation of the BSA unit A65 "watermelon" motor. 

I have a very nice 1966 BMW R69S that does not need restoration as it is in beautiful original condition.  What it does need is taking apart to the point to clean out the sludge trap.  I look forward to carefully attacking this job one day. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/fy0DQmxy/IMG-7037-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kR9kxVYP)

As you know I have restored a few HDs.  I moved onto HD after selling the CBXs.  I am still charmed by a well done HD restoration, or original.  I especially enjoyed mastering the somewhat  black art of rebuilding and aligning of the HD flywheel.  It is very satisfying when you do your first one and get it right after some self doubt. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/gJL2mCpG/606.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJY2PFqZ)


Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 15, 2020, 05:14:02 PM
I am impressed, especially that your first restoration was a CBX!

I don't think I will ever attempt a 6 cylinder twin cam monster, cost alone of six cylinders to repair / replace is daunting enough. I agree with your sentiments on the simplicity of a Guzzi big twin, basic, sound engineering. I have been into a variety of Italian single and twin cylinder engines but have only ventured into restoring a handful of Japanese bikes, Yamaha XT500 / TT500, R5 350, YL1 TwinJet, Honda S65 and 90, never touched a Suzuki or Kawasaki and have not owned any British cycles or American bikes. I have owned / ridden a couple BMW's and once owned a CanAm enduro. I am enjoying the research into the bacon slicer Guzzi's and would like to find a Gilera Saturno 500 single.

Keep the restorations coming, I really enjoy following your posts,

take care

Jim
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on December 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
My word your horizons are broad Dave and Jim!
I am far more insular in my interests.  For me it's Italian only, and having restored a Ducati 900GTS, I now realize Guzzis are more suitable to my level of mechanical aptitude.  I'm like a kid that can do the starter set big brick Duplo construction sets, but was never really comfortable with Meccano (If you know these brands...).  Guzzis are just so tolerant and easy going.
I've had a go at a few other things though.  Anyone recognize the Italian single below, which is OHC, but doesn't have an actual camshaft  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50726935847_ec45e22acf_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khyNJc)27913412_10212710629734738_7590724732705715318_o (https://flic.kr/p/2khyNJc) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 16, 2020, 10:49:33 AM
Is it a Parilla?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 16, 2020, 11:29:21 AM
No clue, but I like it!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on December 16, 2020, 11:41:56 AM
Yes, it's an unusual one.  It's a Capriolo 125, made by the Italian plane maker Aeromere-Caproni, who like Aermacchi were banned from manufacturing aircraft after WW2.  It's called a Face Cam design and the cams are on those little circular concentric tracks.  Certainly it works though, but one of those innovations nobody else took up.  The Capriolo is a kind of alpine deer.  Anyway, it was in the back of a friend's shed so I had a go at it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50726841146_ff1232ac59_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khyjzq)DSC_0385 (https://flic.kr/p/2khyjzq) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50726111208_687db125ab_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khuzAh)DSC_0055 (https://flic.kr/p/2khuzAh) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr


Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 16, 2020, 12:19:55 PM
Yes, it's an unusual one.  It's a Capriolo 125, made by the Italian plane maker Aeromere-Caproni, who like Aermacchi were banned from manufacturing aircraft after WW2.  It's called a Face Cam design and the cams are on those little circular concentric tracks.  Certainly it works though, but one of those innovations nobody else took up.  The Capriolo is a kind of alpine deer.  Anyway, it was in the back of a friend's shed so I had a go at it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50726841146_ff1232ac59_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khyjzq)DSC_0385 (https://flic.kr/p/2khyjzq) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50726111208_687db125ab_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khuzAh)DSC_0055 (https://flic.kr/p/2khuzAh) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr

OUTSTANDING!!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 16, 2020, 02:42:18 PM
Yes, it's an unusual one.  It's a Capriolo 125, made by the Italian plane maker Aeromere-Caproni, who like Aermacchi were banned from manufacturing aircraft after WW2.  It's called a Face Cam design and the cams are on those little circular concentric tracks.  Certainly it works though, but one of those innovations nobody else took up.  The Capriolo is a kind of alpine deer.  Anyway, it was in the back of a friend's shed so I had a go at it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50726841146_ff1232ac59_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khyjzq)DSC_0385 (https://flic.kr/p/2khyjzq) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50726111208_687db125ab_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khuzAh)DSC_0055 (https://flic.kr/p/2khuzAh) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr


Beautiful bike and restoration! I have read about them but never seen one.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 16, 2020, 04:50:58 PM
I've never seen one dirtier!

(https://i.postimg.cc/MT7P6spM/IMG-7829.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8pJzxYd)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 16, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
 :shocked: Well, at least it wasn't leaking oil.  :wink:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 17, 2020, 02:41:59 PM
I found the transmission drain hole had stripped threads.   I sat down yesterday afternoon and ordered a M10 x 1.5 helicoil set from McMaster Carr  and received it this morning!

Les would have set this up on a 5 axis milling machine  :bow:  but I am just a hack.   :grin:

It was a bit fiddly to get it properly set up in my drill press but it was successful.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W4f66bGT/IMG-7842.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsBDnxSP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kGWQmQkg/IMG-7844.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGDQPhjk)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 17, 2020, 07:01:00 PM
Well done👍
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 19, 2020, 05:47:37 AM
Nice to have the transmission spiffed up and attached.   Internals checked over and new seals of course.  And new deep spline hub. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4YLckNr/thumbnail-IMG-7848.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on December 19, 2020, 08:11:32 AM
Ooh, that looks great Dave.  I have to admit that when I rebuilt my T3 Cali I didn't open the gearbox or empty the crankcase.  The bike was running well so I just cleaned the cases with phosphoric acid and made that do.  Didn't look quite as nice, but it did come up quite well.  Heads / barrels etc were vapour blasted.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4311/36114564375_cce870e3ee_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/X2jzM2)DSC_2272 (https://flic.kr/p/X2jzM2) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 19, 2020, 08:17:02 AM
Ooh, that looks great Dave.  I have to admit that when I rebuilt my T3 Cali I didn't open the gearbox or empty the crankcase.  The bike was running well so I just cleaned the cases with phosphoric acid and made that do.  Didn't look quite as nice, but it did come up quite well.  Heads / barrels etc were vapour blasted.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4311/36114564375_cce870e3ee_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/X2jzM2)DSC_2272 (https://flic.kr/p/X2jzM2) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr

It looks great the way you did it.

I converted the clutch to a "deep" spline, therefore it made sense to replace the seals and check things out. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 20, 2020, 11:46:23 AM
The lair! 

(https://i.postimg.cc/N0kX9pdh/IMG-7859.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sB1xb9FK)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 20, 2020, 06:06:39 PM
It is always great to get the frame off of the floor and onto the bike!  AHHH.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Fzw71sBR/IMG-7865.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kRFnp993)

(https://i.postimg.cc/G3fBXqmC/IMG-7868.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqKTCGmx)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 22, 2020, 03:03:49 PM
I had a small setback yesterday.  When I installed the triple tree I realized that the steering stop had snapped off of the frame.  The stop is not very robust on Tonti frames, at least not those I have experience with. 

I swim a mile every morning at 6 a.m. and I find that it is a great time to work through problems of all sorts.

After my swim I had it all sorted out how to properly fix it.  Of course, this involved removing the frame I just installed.  I ground the remnants of the stop to match up with the stop I machined in my mill and welded it with my cheap MIG welder.    It turned out very well!  Now I can resume prior programming.

(https://i.postimg.cc/c4pbrDb4/IMG-7877.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dZBqZhP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRYgXxG7/IMG-7878.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxkDb6kr)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: keener on December 22, 2020, 03:23:38 PM
Nice fix ,  :whip2: Way better than new ...........
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 22, 2020, 05:36:27 PM
I find a broken off, or at the very least bent, stop to be quite common on Tonti Guzzis. That could never happen on a Loop!  :grin: Excellent fix!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 22, 2020, 08:11:22 PM
I find a broken off, or at the very least bent, stop to be quite common on Tonti Guzzis. That could never happen on a Loop!  :grin: Excellent fix!

Nice fix, I have repaired three of them in the same way.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 30, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
While I wait for a couple parts to be delivered to assemble the front forks I got a couple of pesky jobs out of the way. 

I replaced the carrier and swing arm pivot bearings.  One of the pivot races was fairly easy to pull and the other took quite a bit more slams with the slide hammer.  I also repeated Charlie's method of pushing out the carrier bearing, which is installing a blind bearing puller and pressing it out from the rear as I did on the Lemans.

Since this bike had over 100K miles on it I thought it was prudent to replace them.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vThC4NZN/IMG-7894.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRtwPFJX)

I replaced the main seal and input spline on the bevel box.

(https://i.postimg.cc/d18bY1Pv/IMG-7895.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQg6P3g0)

Ahhh!

(https://i.postimg.cc/dQjbNLjj/IMG-7896.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXX3vZ4n)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on December 31, 2020, 06:01:50 PM
I shudder to think what I have tied up in this front suspension.  $$$   :grin: 

The old forks were shot.  So in went -  NOS fork legs, new fork tubes, Wirth progressive springs, and new dampers, fork caps,  seals etc. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/qMBbvNJ7/IMG-7905.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNcz6r8G)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on December 31, 2020, 06:07:42 PM
I shudder to think what I have tied up in this front suspension.  $$$   :grin: 

It's an investment Dave :laugh:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 01, 2021, 07:40:19 PM
The before and after is pretty dramatic on this one.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZyLFxbR/IMG-7190.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBVHxJKj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xjphTgSc/IMG-E7914.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grRNgVjW)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: berniebee on January 02, 2021, 01:41:10 PM
NIce pics! What will you be using for a side stand?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 02, 2021, 05:53:16 PM
NIce pics! What will you be using for a side stand?
The police sidestand. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 02, 2021, 06:27:24 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/PJKFPPMj/IMG-7927.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YLGxP2Vn)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 03, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
I have had this nice set of Konis on the shelf for 20 years waiting for a project.  I think these have found a home.  I will be deviating from stock!!   :police:

(https://i.postimg.cc/K8CmkxS3/IMG-7921.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXKyN8Ln)

I don't believe I have the gumption to restore the originals.  After 115 thousand hard miles they have earned their keep. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/L6rWjX5S/IMG_7925.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvmtSz13)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: blu guzz on January 03, 2021, 07:19:38 AM
I envy you guys that have the skill to do this work. Also, it is great to see you all saving these old bikes that would normally just deteriorate away.  When i see the rare old guzzi or other 30+ year old bike on the road, running well, looking sharp, thanks to this site, I can now appreciate the time, money and effort that went into making it that way. The rest of us have to make do with newer machines, but the most work I will do is adjusting the valves and changing fluids, filters and plugs.  So, we will never know the deep satisfaction you men must feel.  Thanks for sharing the process with us.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on January 03, 2021, 10:47:24 AM
I have had this nice set of Konis on the shelf for 20 years waiting for a project.  I think these have found a home.  I will be deviating from stock!!   :police:

(https://i.postimg.cc/K8CmkxS3/IMG-7921.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXKyN8Ln)

I don't believe I have the gumption to restore the originals.  After 115 thousand hard miles they have earned their keep. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/L6rWjX5S/IMG_7925.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvmtSz13)

The Koni or modern equivalent Ikon are a much better shock than stock. Wolfgang Haerter, the Laverda guru takes a new Ikon and machines the old Ceriani shock cast aluminum lower cup with the adjustment arm to fit the bottom of the Ikon, looks stock. I am going to try that with my old worn out stock Eldorado shocks, using the aluminum lower ring on a pair of Hagons.
Bike is looking great!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Groover on January 03, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
I have the same Koni's on my G5, they were also a NOS set that came with my bike as spare parts. I debated the originality as well, and the Koni's won. They look just right on those bikes.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: moto-uno on January 04, 2021, 05:24:41 PM
  Completely off topic , but , did I see a pan-head with a magneto in one pic and an aftermarket springer in previous pics ? Peter
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 04, 2021, 05:59:29 PM
  Completely off topic , but , did I see a pan-head with a magneto in one pic and an aftermarket springer in previous pics ? Peter

That is a S&S 93H "Pan"  and a W&W springer.   A future project.  There is also a  Baker 6 into 4 transmission. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/gJnpqRwW/005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/345z3kCS)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: moto-uno on January 04, 2021, 11:59:24 PM
 :grin: Thanks for the reply . You've got more projects than I do , and according to my better half  "that's a lot " ! Peter
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 05, 2021, 11:21:50 AM
A few more bits hung on.  Most notably the front fender.  Nice!

(https://i.postimg.cc/3wJMkzXV/IMG-7932.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsgYg6d5)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 08, 2021, 05:05:12 PM
More bits hung on. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/R0BpmNmQ/IMG-7945.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxgHqcnn)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: keener on January 09, 2021, 11:51:06 AM
 :thumb:  a beauty is born again .....
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 10, 2021, 07:09:15 PM
The brakes are all hooked up and ready to be bled.  I trial fitted the exhaust this evening. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/7hNbprtH/IMG-7950.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tnYXxwHw)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 18, 2021, 05:44:12 PM
Almost all of the bric a brac is on now.   :grin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/rpPbB291/IMG-8010.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKfX3j2C)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 18, 2021, 07:27:15 PM
Looks amazing!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Groover on January 18, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
 :bow:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Canuck750 on January 18, 2021, 08:10:08 PM
Wow that is shiny!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Turin on January 18, 2021, 11:13:27 PM
Daaaamn !
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 19, 2021, 03:46:57 PM
Thanks guys!

 I spent a good part of today attaching the rear turn signals to my satisfaction.  It is amazing how some of these small tasks can eat up so much time!

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRkXxd05/IMG_8017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mn2vwv5j)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 20, 2021, 05:12:34 PM
I think this will need to go to a Guzzi rally or 2 this year!  It's been about 25 years since it has been on the road at least.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kXQS2H7N/IMG-8020.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYgJf2Z7)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 22, 2021, 02:07:07 PM
Front turn signals in and headlight test fitted.  Wiring is to begin in earnest now.

(https://i.postimg.cc/jSPp7kKt/IMG-8035.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G43g0KH5)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 26, 2021, 03:29:44 PM
Always a big day when the refurbished clocks can come out of hiding and see the light of day!

(https://i.postimg.cc/bJFWNKKP/IMG-8060.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBpVwDbs)

A bit of an improvement!

(https://i.postimg.cc/52kDjYDB/thumbnail-IMG-6680.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnV9FT6H)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Glawster on January 27, 2021, 04:30:38 AM
You're doing a proper job on this bike Dave! My "refurbishment of clocks amounted to wiping them over with plastic restorer and touching up the white painted bits by hand...
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Klinkhammer on January 27, 2021, 06:36:13 AM
9 miles on the clock. Seems to be correct actually.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 27, 2021, 07:57:30 AM
9 miles on the clock. Seems to be correct actually.

Yes, for this bike it seemed appropriate to have the odometer reset, since so much has been renewed.   Most other bikes I have the instrument restorer leave the mileage as-is. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 27, 2021, 05:19:12 PM
The carbs are looking a bit better!

(https://i.postimg.cc/6pPYY0zQ/IMG-8064.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rDS1p5B6)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ydkhcfYc/IMG-7193.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ppn8kQD5)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 28, 2021, 05:13:19 PM
We have carburetors!    Also I was wondering why the handlebar stuff didn't seem to look right installed on the reproduction handlebar I purchased.  I pulled the original handlebar out and found, as I was beginning to suspect, that the original bars were 3 inches shorter.  A quick disassembly and a trip to my small band saw and all is well. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/zvDHdhV0/IMG-8068.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jw9j2L67)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pVkFms67/IMG-8069.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj2s5fq7)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on January 31, 2021, 07:45:15 PM
Electric is all done.  The perfection of Greg Bender's looms are always a delight.  Everything is working as it should.  Sparking away, so there will be a first start soon. 

I couldn't resist fitting the tins and the seat for effect.

(https://i.postimg.cc/dtmnH83K/IMG-8077.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPJmNv16)

(https://i.postimg.cc/L89Drngg/IMG-8081.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpP95N8n)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 31, 2021, 08:37:25 PM
 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Turin on January 31, 2021, 09:01:30 PM
I'm in love!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Harry H on January 31, 2021, 10:46:07 PM
Outstanding!!  Now the question, will you ride it or mount it on the wall as a piece of art.  Just beautiful.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: SED on January 31, 2021, 11:47:53 PM
It looks great.  Better than new!  How did you clean up the plastic dash so well?
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: leroy_can on February 01, 2021, 08:13:24 AM
 Wow is all I can say, you and Canuck750 and so many others do such amazing restorations. Now I'm learning how these threads run it's good to be able to see the timeline of the work. You seem to have such good people for your paint and plating. It's so easy to end up with someone who is so slow to do some of these things and nothing is worse than losing momentum while waiting on critical parts. Your before and after pictures are the best.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on February 01, 2021, 08:19:37 AM
  Your before and after pictures are the best.

Here's one for you.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0Qhs55Ds/IMG-7015-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygh5vHLQ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dtmnH83K/IMG_8077.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPJmNv16)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on February 01, 2021, 10:07:45 AM
  How did you clean up the plastic dash so well?

This stuff.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MH7R5MVG/IMG-8085.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64Qy5QHs)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Klinkhammer on February 02, 2021, 01:15:21 PM
Lovely! Very inspirational!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on February 02, 2021, 04:38:40 PM
Installed the saddlebags today.  I lucked out finding these they are in great shape.  They are missing the locks though.  I have to figure that out.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Jn2LLJKT/IMG-8087.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGYVNv5g)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sssh3VL2/IMG-8092.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWtHbrMn)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: jrt on February 03, 2021, 09:33:40 AM
Those lunch-boxes take me back to my old G5. 
Nice work, Dave!  Lovely looking bike.
J
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on February 05, 2021, 03:14:18 PM
Windshield installed. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/GtZ6HZMW/IMG-8105.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bS9m5Ffg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2SJDSg1/IMG-8106.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34zw6YHj)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: LesP on February 05, 2021, 03:19:47 PM
Fantastic job once again.  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on February 05, 2021, 04:14:44 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/pT9wRfxc/IMG-E8119.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDhCR2Z1)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: keener on February 05, 2021, 09:56:34 PM
 :thumb:  its new again ................
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: vintage53 on February 07, 2021, 09:45:54 AM
Outstanding!

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Pescatore on February 14, 2021, 09:29:04 AM
I love the black&white contrast, especially on the seat.  :bow:
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on February 14, 2021, 09:48:12 AM
Thanks guys! 

The final pieces of the puzzle arrived last week.  I needed the saddlebag locks and HMB Guzzi had them in stock.  Pricey but not sure if I could have adapted anything else.  I am no Les P by a long shot.   :grin:

She is done - done except for tuning. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Scout63 on March 03, 2021, 08:16:26 PM
This thread and build are so wonderful Dave.  The photos are very helpful in finding what I like in T3s.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: vintagehoarder on March 04, 2021, 06:03:42 AM
Sweet!!
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 21, 2021, 06:53:54 PM
I had my first opportunity to give it a check out ride today.  I spent a bit of time tuning the carbs and took off.  It runs SO GOOD!  Love it.


(https://i.postimg.cc/dVX9s3k2/IMG-8381.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NK6XbgxF)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: LesP on March 21, 2021, 07:02:45 PM
Another fantastic job (Save) Dave.  :thumb: :thumb:
Better than new.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 21, 2021, 10:01:35 PM
 :thumb: :thumb: If any of my bikes looked that good, I'd never ride them.
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 25, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Break in miles are coming slowly.  The bike is coming more alive it seems as the miles add up. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rh3DmNmV/DSC00039_(2).jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRkJCyzv)
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: vintagehoarder on May 26, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
Congrats! They are great bikes. However, I never got on with the windshield -to much turbulence. I finally cut it down so i got clean air to the head/helmet (see photos).
I always thought the police livery looked really cool so I got black stripes from Stein Dinse. And who says a motorcycle always have to be black?!
It had open Dunstall pipes on it. Ridiculously loud.
Now sold.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkSZrLL/IMG-5725.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkSZrLL)

(https://i.ibb.co/F5r55Lj/IMG-1422.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F5r55Lj)

(https://i.ibb.co/8Y8bvRZ/IMG-3901.png) (https://ibb.co/8Y8bvRZ)


Beautiful who did your windshield decal?

(https://photos.smugmug.com/1984-Moto-Guzzi-California-II-Convert/i-DNB3qLr/0/561c4d48/M/1984%20Moto%20Guzzi%20Califfornia%20II%20Convert%20%283%29-M.jpg) (https://curtedwards.smugmug.com/1984-Moto-Guzzi-California-II-Convert/i-DNB3qLr/A)

Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 26, 2021, 11:27:50 AM
Beautiful who did your windshield decal?


I was surprised to see it on the windshield. 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Tiki Joe on May 26, 2021, 02:41:05 PM
Outstanding job once again as all of your rebuilds are.  Curious...if you don't mind sharing, what is your background?  I think you mentioned somewhere you're retired now...were in some sort of auto technician before?....I'm guessing an engineer as your bikes turn out perfect! 
Title: Re: T3 California Restoration
Post by: Klinkhammer on May 26, 2021, 03:41:30 PM
Quote
Beautiful who did your windshield decal?
It was there when I bought it. I liked it, looked really cool!!

Dave! Your bike looks outstanding!!