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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2020, 05:20:34 PM »
Sounds like a trip to the machine shop is in order.  :sad:

Yeah, I had a friend of mine who is a car mechanic look at the rod/piston and he said the same thing. In the meantime, the tires came and I now have the discs mounted on the rims with new nuts and bolts(didn't have any of those items) and I'll mount the tires tonight or tomorrow.

I was hoping to get this engine together this weekend.....oh well. 

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2020, 07:10:20 PM »
Well, I got the engine together and in the frame.



I still need to install the carrier bearing and u-joint in the swing arm, unfortunately I am going out of town for about a month.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2020, 08:09:55 PM »
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2020, 01:59:53 PM »
Looking very good! And I like your engine stand. :)
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2020, 08:49:40 PM »
Looking very good! And I like your engine stand. :)

Thanks, the factory stand is worth owning.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #35 on: February 29, 2020, 08:37:05 AM »
Thanks, the factory stand is worth owning.

I had one and found that I didn't use it much, sold it last Summer.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2020, 03:19:38 PM »
I had one and found that I didn't use it much, sold it last Summer.

I'm surprised that you didn't use it that much. Mine has been quite handy for this kind of work and working on the front forks.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2020, 04:10:49 PM »
I'm surprised that you didn't use it that much. Mine has been quite handy for this kind of work and working on the front forks.

Most of my work has been on Loopframes, doesn't work on them.  :wink: I have a "lift jack" that is a lot more useful to me.



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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2020, 06:12:14 PM »
What have you guys done to improve the looks of old calipers?  These don’t look too bad and I probably will vapor blast them but is there some paint treatment that will work?


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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2020, 04:17:32 AM »
I got mine Cerakoted...very nice finish that is close to original and hard wearing

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2020, 08:36:37 AM »
What have you guys done to improve the looks of old calipers?  These don’t look too bad and I probably will vapor blast them but is there some paint treatment that will work?




I think Jim (canuck750) has them re-anodized - the Morini caliper he sold me was done that way and looks great.


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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2020, 10:28:50 AM »
Original finish was hard anodized black. I was lucky to find a local anodizing shop that does my stuff for real cheap, about $3.00 per half a caliber. I used my Vapor blaster to strip the anodized finish. If you want a shine to the finish you have to polish up the aluminum prior to anodizing. The anodized process is so thin that it’s practically transparent. The Grimeca caliber I sent Charlie was Vapor blaster and anodized but no pre polishing. Factory finish was a little shinier so next time I will lightly polish the caliber castings prior to anodizing.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2020, 01:35:35 PM »
I got mine Cerakoted...very nice finish that is close to original and hard wearing

The guy who does my powder coating also does this finish.  Can you post a photo?  Thanks.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2020, 01:36:41 PM »
Original finish was hard anodized black. I was lucky to find a local anodizing shop that does my stuff for real cheap, about $3.00 per half a caliber. I used my Vapor blaster to strip the anodized finish. If you want a shine to the finish you have to polish up the aluminum prior to anodizing. The anodized process is so thin that it’s practically transparent. The Grimeca caliber I sent Charlie was Vapor blaster and anodized but no pre polishing. Factory finish was a little shinier so next time I will lightly polish the caliber castings prior to anodizing.

I’ll have to do a search and see if anyone locally does anodizing.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2020, 04:20:55 AM »
This is what cerakote looks like.....slightly less matt than anodising i'd say .Apparently much harder wearing and doesn't fade.I got mine done by Ducatipaddy http://www.ducatipaddy.com/ as he does this as part as part as his refurbishment ...of course you'll be able to get a local service  but in France there are only a couple of people who do it and they didn't have a good record.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2020, 10:40:57 AM »
This is what cerakote looks like.....slightly less matt than anodising i'd say .Apparently much harder wearing and doesn't fade.I got mine done by Ducatipaddy http://www.ducatipaddy.com/ as he does this as part as part as his refurbishment ...of course you'll be able to get a local service  but in France there are only a couple of people who do it and they didn't have a good record.

I’ll see what the local guy has in terms of the finish.  Thanks for posting this link.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2020, 10:42:35 AM »
Also looking for one of these clutch assembly’s with the light indicator:




Does anyone have a clutch assembly as above that they want to sell?
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2020, 04:29:49 PM »
I’ll see what the local guy has in terms of the finish.  Thanks for posting this link.
Sorry that I couldn't post pictures of mine BC...my flickr account has been wiped out ...I obviously havn't  got a handle on how to do pictures here with the other one !

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2020, 11:53:27 AM »
The u-joint isn't exactly slipping all the way on to the splines of the transmission. The flutes seem fine, but it seems like there is some surface rust on the shaft. Don't know exactly what is the best way to handle this, I was thinking of using a file to clean up the rust.





Also, does the yellow marked end on the u-joint go to the transmission of final drive coupling? 
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2020, 03:43:10 PM »
A light touch with a file might be all it needs, may be a small but stopping it sliding.

Painted end on UJ towards gearbox.

Can't tell by photo, but install it in the swing arm first, will likely need to freeze it and make up some guides/supports to knock in to carrier bearing.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2020, 04:08:05 PM »
Remove the rust, otherwise it combines with the grease to make a nice grinding paste, accelerating wear. Got a Dremel? That's what I'd use to get into the splines and clean away the rust.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2020, 05:55:20 PM »
A light touch with a file might be all it needs, may be a small but stopping it sliding.

Painted end on UJ towards gearbox.

Can't tell by photo, but install it in the swing arm first, will likely need to freeze it and make up some guides/supports to knock in to carrier bearing.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2020, 01:42:59 PM »
Definitely get rid of the rust. Some naval jelly would be an easy option.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2020, 02:10:23 PM »
Definitely get rid of the rust. Some naval jelly would be an easy option.

Took awhile but I got it all cleaned up and the swing arm is installed.  I'm now waiting for what is likely the last order (for a while) from MG Cycle.
 


While I'm waiting for the mufflers to get out of customs, I installed one of the original mufflers which is in bad shape. If the powder coater continues to stay open, I'll drop off some of the remaining small parts provided they don't close down due to this virus.

With the need for parts, this project is going to take some time to complete.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2020, 04:22:53 PM »
Still waiting on parts, in the process of ordering the wiring harness from Greg Bender.  The mufflers and headers are still in transit along with master cylinder,etc.

So in the meantime, I decided to re-look at the original mufflers as a time killer:



The left muffler was in sad shape with a couple of holes, so both muffler's were coated with naval jelly and I sanded everything down and primed and painted with whatever old Krylon was sitting on the shelves.
 



I hope to not have to use those muffler's as I'm sure the left one will just pop out the Bondo when started, mostly did it just for aesthetics. And I only bolted up the headers as I don't want to fit the crossover and muffler's as I might damage some paint in trying to pull everything apart.

Hopefully within the next few weeks the header's and muffler's will get released from customs, but with them likely being in NYC that may take a little longer depending on how much worse it gets there in the coming days. 
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #55 on: March 30, 2020, 04:37:06 PM »
Also, looking for a pair of the original grey velocity stacks.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2020, 09:12:41 PM »
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #57 on: March 31, 2020, 01:06:20 PM »
Looks great!   I've got my velocity stacks but going to run some filters for longevity.   Your paint looks great.  Seems like there was a mix of chrome and black handlebars. 



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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2020, 08:27:59 PM »

This is looking so nice bc, great work on the canisters. 

Man, that color, just wow...!

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2020, 08:05:48 AM »
Looks great!   I've got my velocity stacks but going to run some filters for longevity.   Your paint looks great.  Seems like there was a mix of chrome and black handlebars.

Yeah, I will use filters on this engine but I'd like to have the stacks just to have them. Honestly, I'd rather have the black handlebars but this is what I got with this project.
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