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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2020, 08:06:49 AM »
This is looking so nice bc, great work on the canisters. 

Man, that color, just wow...!

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They look OK from 5-8 feet away with my old eyes.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #61 on: April 02, 2020, 04:07:16 PM »
I believe all the blue lemans had black bars, but not 100%, though I never saw a red one Ne with the black bars.

The black is actually just black zinc (can't be paint as the switches ground through the bars)

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2020, 12:05:55 AM »
A LeMans in blue is just so darn pretty.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2020, 10:31:06 AM »
A LeMans in blue is just so darn pretty.

Agreed!  Makes me want to paint mine blue!
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2020, 10:31:06 AM »

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #64 on: April 06, 2020, 05:45:06 AM »
Just for grins.  Factory photo.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2020, 09:54:03 AM »
A couple of photo's of the  wiring harness getting installed.





I'm almost all done with the installation. The harness is from Greg Bender and I also installed his relay harness for the headlight, horn and coils.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2020, 10:29:58 AM »
Even the most simple Tonti has a $hitload of wiring!  :grin: Looking good.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2020, 11:44:44 AM »
Even the most simple Tonti has a $hitload of wiring!  :grin: Looking good.

True, it doesn't help that I ran out of zip ties and I don't exactly feel like getting all dressed up in a space suit just to get a package of them from auto zone. 
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2020, 05:36:35 PM »
I have a guess that the one on the top is a voltage regulator as the three prong connector fits the post configuration though I don't know what the other fitting is for on that device.  But I'm not sure about the bottom device, I thought it might be the turn signal flasher but it has too many fittings and if it is the flasher where exactly is it mounted under the right side panel cover.



The guide without the rubber bushing is for the brake line under the tank, just need to find some rubber that will fit.  And I know that at least one of the other fittings is for the brake line to one of the front brakes and I assume the other one is for the other brake line but I just want to confirm that before working on the brake lines and I end up being wrong in that assumption. 

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2020, 08:33:43 PM »
I have a guess that the one on the top is a voltage regulator as the three prong connector fits the post configuration though I don't know what the other fitting is for on that device.  But I'm not sure about the bottom device, I thought it might be the turn signal flasher but it has too many fittings and if it is the flasher where exactly is it mounted under the right side panel cover.



Top one is the starter relay, the bottom one the headlight/horn relay.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2020, 08:18:41 AM »
Charlie, thanks. As interesting as they are, I'm going to pass on re-installing them.

"Top one is the starter relay, the bottom one the headlight/horn relay."
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2020, 10:13:19 AM »
Does anyone have the control valve from the oil pan?  Not something regularly found on eBay or the usual suspects.


#14 in the photo.

While that photo is up, how in the world doe you get that vent hose into #45? On my CX I just left it drop straight down because I couldn't get the hose in there but I'd like to get this one to work. Other than trimming down the outside edges, I have no idea how to get it in place.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #72 on: April 14, 2020, 04:53:55 PM »
The oil pressure relief valve (which is also #15-#21)? I have two extras - one that "pops off" at too low pressure, would need to check the other one.

To get that hose through the holder, I cut the end of the hose at about a 60* angle, spray it down with silicone spray, stuff the pointed end through, grab it with pliers and pull it the rest of the way through. Cut to desired length. Helps if you use hose that isn't constructed too stiff.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2020, 01:01:21 AM »
I believe all the blue lemans had black bars, but not 100%, though I never saw a red one Ne with the black bars.

The black is actually just black zinc (can't be paint as the switches ground through the bars)

All the 76 and most 77's Lemans came with chrome handlebars.  Late in 77 and all 78's came with black handlebars and black lower fork legs.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2020, 07:39:29 AM »
The oil pressure relief valve (which is also #15-#21)? I have two extras - one that "pops off" at too low pressure, would need to check the other one.

To get that hose through the holder, I cut the end of the hose at about a 60* angle, spray it down with silicone spray, stuff the pointed end through, grab it with pliers and pull it the rest of the way through. Cut to desired length. Helps if you use hose that isn't constructed too stiff.

Charlie,  Thanks.   PM me how much you want and I will send you my address.

Good idea on the hose.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2020, 07:41:45 AM »
"I believe all the blue lemans had black bars, but not 100%, though I never saw a red one Ne with the black bars.

The black is actually just black zinc (can't be paint as the switches ground through the bars)

All the 76 and most 77's Lemans came with chrome handlebars.  Late in 77 and all 78's came with black handlebars and black lower fork legs."

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2020, 08:59:15 AM »
Charlie,  Thanks.   PM me how much you want and I will send you my address.

Good idea on the hose.

I'll dig one out today and test it for proper operation.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2020, 01:48:56 PM »
I'll dig one out today and test it for proper operation.

OK, thanks.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2020, 10:41:00 AM »
In the mail today.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2020, 09:08:41 PM »
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2020, 09:55:11 PM »
Ok, how do I open this switch up to install the new wires?  I’m sure it’s simple but the last thing that I want to do is make a mistake with this NOS switch.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2020, 10:00:59 PM »
As you are holding the switch in the picture just pull the left hand away from the right, its as simple as that. I would recommend using a conductive epoxy to attach the new wires to the switch rather than risk soldering.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #82 on: April 18, 2020, 01:44:30 AM »
What he said, can't recomend the conductive epoxy enough as the original switches are particularly fragile.

It's often sold as "de-mister" or "de-fogger" adhesive for car rear windscreen heater connections.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #83 on: April 18, 2020, 06:24:14 AM »
Thanks guys.

 I don’t even want to touch these things, but it has to be done. Will springs fly out as it comes apart and is it difficult to get back together?
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #84 on: April 18, 2020, 01:09:52 PM »
Pull the switch apart slowly the sprung piece should not fly away. These switches are crap but I think they belong on a bike as rare as the LeMans. Clean the individual pieces carefully and reassembly should go smoothly.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #85 on: April 19, 2020, 07:23:02 PM »
Pull the switch apart slowly the sprung piece should not fly away. These switches are crap but I think they belong on a bike as rare as the LeMans. Clean the individual pieces carefully and reassembly should go smoothly.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #86 on: April 19, 2020, 09:21:49 PM »
This little ground contact is critical, the tab must ground through the clip-ons across the fork tubes to the frame. Not the best design in my opinion.

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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #87 on: April 19, 2020, 09:27:16 PM »
I had the most difficulty getting the light rocker switch tp work well.



There is a insulation sheet that insulates the contacts from the clip-ons, the swatch of isolation had torn on the switch I had and I replaced it with a section of PVC tape.



The tape has to bind to the inside of the switch but slide around the clip-on as the rocker is rotated.
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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #88 on: April 20, 2020, 12:55:40 PM »
Just took my RH switch apart but was cleaner than Canucks.  Just gently pull the inside ring apart.  Worked mine out gently with the tip of a small flat screwdriver.  The red kill switch springs and metal contact are loose-ish.

I’m dealing with LH switch issues.  Mine has this little strip of foil which I’m guessing was OEM where Canuck had to use the pvc tape.  May be going back in to investigate.






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Re: 1976 Lemans Project
« Reply #89 on: April 20, 2020, 05:46:35 PM »
I got everything hooked up, fortunately I have a Nos headlight switch and that works perfectly fine.  The horn worked for one blast and now I've just got a clicking relay and I'm not getting anything out of the starter button. I haven't tried the turn signal switch yet as I don't have the turn signals mounted as the front and rear brackets are in NYC and I have no idea when I'll get back there for that stash of parts. I'll just rig up the lights and see what happens. 

Waiting on some carb jets, have to static time the ignition then it's just gas and see what happens. Maybe by the end of the week.
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