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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #90 on: November 24, 2020, 06:36:57 AM »
Making stuff look brand new is all fine and good, but then you can't ride it. god forbid you get a stone chip.

Why can't you ride it?  Just because it's a fine restoration, doesn't mean it can't be used.  A mate of mine's daily ride pictured below.  Value £250k, but he still uses it most days.

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #91 on: November 24, 2020, 07:54:49 AM »
Why can't you ride it?  Just because it's a fine restoration, doesn't mean it can't be used.  A mate of mine's daily ride pictured below.  Value £250k, but he still uses it most days.

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2020, 07:55:46 AM »
Making stuff look brand new is all fine and good, but then you can't ride it. god forbid you get a stone chip.

The picture is deceptive.  There are plenty of stone dings left intact.   :grin:
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #93 on: November 24, 2020, 01:11:57 PM »
Before and after.  Only 79 more to go!

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Re: T3 California Restoration
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2020, 06:20:54 AM »
Were you able to remove all the spokes from the hubs ok Dave?  Mine were very difficult to remove and some of the rear ones I had to cut off and drift them out due to the corrosion between the hub and spoke.  Took me days to complete.
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2020, 07:11:08 AM »
Were you able to remove all the spokes from the hubs OK Dave?  Mine were very difficult to remove and some of the rear ones I had to cut off and drift them out due to the corrosion between the hub and spoke.  Took me days to complete.

The all came out OK.  Some were stubborn.   I had sprayed them with penetrating oil and had to knock some of them out with a brass hammer.   Some spokes had the first thread slightly deformed due to the beating with the brass hammer, but a quick dressing up with the grinding wheel followed by a wire wheel I was able to salvage all of them. 
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2020, 12:21:23 PM »
Front wheel is ready for build!  All the spokes and nipples were hand polished on my buffing wheel. 

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2020, 02:50:24 PM »
Kind of a dramatic change now that it is laced up!  Spoke are loosely assembled.  I need to install the bearing hubs before I can start any serious truing.

Its amazing what you can get done at a leisurely pace once retired! :azn:



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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2020, 03:29:30 PM »
Looks great!
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« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2020, 05:16:34 PM »
Great thread.   :popcorn:

Wish I had the skills, patience and garage space to attempt something like this.
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #100 on: November 27, 2020, 07:00:47 AM »
Front wheel done - new wheel bearings, new brake discs, trued, and balanced.  Now onto the rear!  I went with Conti Go tires as my favorite Avons are nowhere to be found in the sizes I need. 

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #101 on: November 27, 2020, 06:25:40 PM »
The rotors look great, did you have TrueDisc refinish them?
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #102 on: November 27, 2020, 07:43:24 PM »
     Excellent job making those wheels look primo  :thumb: :bow:

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #103 on: November 27, 2020, 09:08:31 PM »
The rotors look great, did you have TrueDisc refinish them?

The discs were worn out so new were required.
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #104 on: December 01, 2020, 05:39:27 PM »
The stainless rear fender was as run down looking as the rest of the bike.  Not wanting to invest in the discs and compounds necessary to do a proper polishing job I brought it to a local guy that does good work.  The price was reasonable.

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #105 on: December 01, 2020, 08:07:02 PM »
The stainless fender looks excellent, I don't enjoy polishing, it's very messy and my polishing machine isn't that powerful. Worth paying others for some things.
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #106 on: December 03, 2020, 07:52:52 PM »
Rear wheel finished.

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #107 on: December 05, 2020, 05:20:30 AM »
 :thumb: Impressive work, Dave.  Thanks for documenting this restoration.  Way beyond my capabilities, but I learn a thing or two, and itís fun to see the progression to the final product.  Nice job.
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #108 on: December 05, 2020, 10:45:32 AM »
 :thumb:   Nice work Done 
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2020, 08:01:50 AM »
Time to get serious!  The engine is in position.

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2020, 08:12:08 AM »
I also have another project that is being worked simultaneously, my 1955 Triumph T110.  The T110 was the hot-rod of the line up in 55. 

Barrels have received their first overvbore in 65 years.  I was able to find NOS .010 T110 ironhead pistons!  These are rare as rocking horse dung.  This way I not only was able to keep the compression ratio stock, but also avoided jumping to .020 over.  No one manufactures new 10 thou over replacement pistons these days.



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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #111 on: December 15, 2020, 10:50:40 AM »
The Por-15 painted parts look great! I really like the Por-15 products, not cheap but you get great results from the brand. Your range of brands and the quality work you turn out is very impressive! British, American and European, do you work on Japanese as well and do you have a favourite manufacturer?
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #112 on: December 15, 2020, 11:44:14 AM »
Your range of brands and the quality work you turn out is very impressive! British, American and European, do you work on Japanese as well and do you have a favourite manufacturer?

I find most of the manufacturers interesting.  My favorite has become Moto Guzzi because they are so straight forward with a high degree of efficiency of design.   That being said, I am now very interested in Triumph vertical twin engine design.  The vertical twin brought out in 1938 is beyond iconic and had a life span of almost 40 years with essentially no major changes.   Now that I am into the details of rebuilding the engine I am very much appreciating the genius behind it's design

My first venture into full restorations was the Honda CBX.  I fully restored a 1980 and a 1979.  Both started out in rough shape, and both are sold off.  The 1980 turned out so well that I still have a twinge of regret.  But keeping 6 carbs running perfectly on a bike that would not be ridden regularly would be tiring.  The only other Honda I plan to restore is a 1973 CL350 that I picked up in a neighborhood yard sale some years ago.  In other words I am not a dyed in the wool fan of Honda restoring.   And I almost forgot, my 65 150 Dream needs some love one day also.   :grin:

I must say that when you have a  CBX engine completely torn apart on your bench it does impress your friends that stop by.   :grin:



I have a 1965 BSA Spitfire Hornet rolling basket that I am slowly getting more interested in restoring.  With the help of the latest BSA book to come out, Thunderbolts & Lightning by Peter Crawford I am developing a much higher appreciation of the BSA unit A65 "watermelon" motor. 

I have a very nice 1966 BMW R69S that does not need restoration as it is in beautiful original condition.  What it does need is taking apart to the point to clean out the sludge trap.  I look forward to carefully attacking this job one day. 



As you know I have restored a few HDs.  I moved onto HD after selling the CBXs.  I am still charmed by a well done HD restoration, or original.  I especially enjoyed mastering the somewhat  black art of rebuilding and aligning of the HD flywheel.  It is very satisfying when you do your first one and get it right after some self doubt. 




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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #113 on: December 15, 2020, 05:14:02 PM »
I am impressed, especially that your first restoration was a CBX!

I don't think I will ever attempt a 6 cylinder twin cam monster, cost alone of six cylinders to repair / replace is daunting enough. I agree with your sentiments on the simplicity of a Guzzi big twin, basic, sound engineering. I have been into a variety of Italian single and twin cylinder engines but have only ventured into restoring a handful of Japanese bikes, Yamaha XT500 / TT500, R5 350, YL1 TwinJet, Honda S65 and 90, never touched a Suzuki or Kawasaki and have not owned any British cycles or American bikes. I have owned / ridden a couple BMW's and once owned a CanAm enduro. I am enjoying the research into the bacon slicer Guzzi's and would like to find a Gilera Saturno 500 single.

Keep the restorations coming, I really enjoy following your posts,

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #114 on: December 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM »
My word your horizons are broad Dave and Jim!
I am far more insular in my interests.  For me it's Italian only, and having restored a Ducati 900GTS, I now realize Guzzis are more suitable to my level of mechanical aptitude.  I'm like a kid that can do the starter set big brick Duplo construction sets, but was never really comfortable with Meccano (If you know these brands...).  Guzzis are just so tolerant and easy going.
I've had a go at a few other things though.  Anyone recognize the Italian single below, which is OHC, but doesn't have an actual camshaft  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #115 on: December 16, 2020, 10:49:33 AM »
Is it a Parilla?
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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #116 on: December 16, 2020, 11:29:21 AM »
No clue, but I like it!
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« Reply #117 on: December 16, 2020, 11:41:56 AM »
Yes, it's an unusual one.  It's a Capriolo 125, made by the Italian plane maker Aeromere-Caproni, who like Aermacchi were banned from manufacturing aircraft after WW2.  It's called a Face Cam design and the cams are on those little circular concentric tracks.  Certainly it works though, but one of those innovations nobody else took up.  The Capriolo is a kind of alpine deer.  Anyway, it was in the back of a friend's shed so I had a go at it.

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #118 on: December 16, 2020, 12:19:55 PM »
Yes, it's an unusual one.  It's a Capriolo 125, made by the Italian plane maker Aeromere-Caproni, who like Aermacchi were banned from manufacturing aircraft after WW2.  It's called a Face Cam design and the cams are on those little circular concentric tracks.  Certainly it works though, but one of those innovations nobody else took up.  The Capriolo is a kind of alpine deer.  Anyway, it was in the back of a friend's shed so I had a go at it.

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Re: T3 California Restoration
« Reply #119 on: December 16, 2020, 02:42:18 PM »
Yes, it's an unusual one.  It's a Capriolo 125, made by the Italian plane maker Aeromere-Caproni, who like Aermacchi were banned from manufacturing aircraft after WW2.  It's called a Face Cam design and the cams are on those little circular concentric tracks.  Certainly it works though, but one of those innovations nobody else took up.  The Capriolo is a kind of alpine deer.  Anyway, it was in the back of a friend's shed so I had a go at it.

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