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Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« on: May 09, 2021, 12:56:43 PM »
I bought a 5-accessory hub from INNOVV. I have heated grips, a dual dash cam, a dual-USB port, and an on-off switch for aux lights.

And here’s my mess of wires:





“Nestled” in there are the aforementioned wires, along with the INNOV hub, which is about as small as they come, the fuses for those wires, and a pretty rugged SAE port going to the battery. It severely needs tidying up, but I’m not sure I can get everything tucked in well enough. I can’t trim down any cam wires, which have more than enough length.

Any secrets or tips?
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2021, 01:07:18 PM »
I recommend Fuzeblocks:

https://www.fuzeblocks.com/



Try searching for "fuzeblock" in earlier threads.

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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2021, 01:25:26 PM »
Yeah, I considered a Fuzeblock, but thought the Innovv Power Hub (pictured below) might’ve taken up less space. Guess not with all the fused wires branching off it.



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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2021, 01:52:35 PM »
 Subject: Fuse Blocks. Summit Racing has many makes and styles. I find their "in-house" brand,SUM-900 series are compact and well made.     Some models have led indicators for each circuit to indicate a blown fuse. They are not expensive.

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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2021, 04:06:28 PM »
There's enough juice to run heated gear off a V7?
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2021, 05:50:28 PM »
Motobatt's 4 terminals can make life easier but I like those fuzeblock stuff,

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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2021, 07:10:25 PM »
Man, that first pic makes Bill Hagen's wiring look neat...  :evil: :cool:

I run my heated gear off the Battery Tender lead, the Aux LED lights, GPS and USB power off the GPS power lead behind the headlight, and my Oxford Grips connect directly to the battery. Back in the day, I would have a switched relay that powered a compact waterproof fuse block, but don't have need for that these days. Those new Fuzeblocks are very nice, and would be on my list when I need one in the future.
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2021, 07:46:44 PM »
  Hard to tell from the picture , but how high is that fuzeblock with the cover on ? Peter

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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2021, 08:44:10 PM »
  Hard to tell from the picture , but how high is that fuzeblock with the cover on ? Peter

Mine is out of easy access right now since the snorkel of the airbox has been put back in place. The website gives these dimensions: L 3.25" x W 2.5" x H 1.25". When considering the purchase, I cut a pine block of that size for test fitting. The actual fuse box was the same size when it arrived.

The product is very well thought out. I can't think of how it could be improved within its design parameters for amperage and numbers of circuits.

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EDIT: By the way, I mounted the box by gluing Velcro to it and the rear fender where it sits. This works well and allows for repositioning the box when adding new wires. So the thickness of a Velco strip (both sides) should be added to the height if you use the same method.

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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2021, 09:48:20 PM »
I've had (the same ) FuzeBlock on my last 3 bikes. One, with the MotoBatt with extra terminals. Didn't fit under the seat of my 2017 Stone, so I velcroed it behind the left side cover, against the air filter housing. Ran a trigger wire from the USB port on the battery side.

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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2021, 06:48:13 AM »
+1 for the Fuzeblock. I’ve run one on my /5 for years. It has an internal relay that powers everything up when you turn on the power.  You can also switch the fuse positions to have circuits “always on” like your battery tender.
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2021, 07:07:58 AM »
There's enough juice to run heated gear off a V7?
Not really, you can run gloves at 100% and a vest at about 30% and that's it, I installed a Voltmeter on mine to keep an eye on it.
I will run the Vest at 100% for a short while but as soon as I slow down for lights it has to be turned off.
I also changed to an LED headlight but then I loaded it back up again with a pair of 10 Watt driving lights, I never ride at night any more, it's all about making myself visible to the cagers.
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2021, 07:22:49 AM »
Not really, you can run gloves at 100% and a vest at about 30% and that's it, I installed a Voltmeter on mine to keep an eye on it.
I will run the Vest at 100% for a short while but as soon as I slow down for lights it has to be turned off.
I also changed to an LED headlight but then I loaded it back up again with a pair of 10 Watt driving lights, I never ride at night any more, it's all about making myself visible to the cagers.

The Innovative hub seems like a good idea but its all those fuses at different lengths and the crimp links that take up all the room if the fuses were all in a line without the plastic covers it would be much more compact. Another fuse block like the OEM one fitted under the seat would be handy. There is plenty of room under the side covers for accessories you don't need to get at on a daily basis, I have my Bluetooth Girbing controller glued onto the side of the airbox.
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2021, 08:05:22 AM »
Appreciate the recommendations so far!

I accidentally typed "heated gear," but I intended to say "heated grips". The only heated gear I wear are my battery-powered glove liners. So, I'm looking at:
  • Heated grips
  • Dual-USB port
  • Dual dash cam
  • Auxiliary lights
I want those four connected to a switched source. I also have a Battery Tender SAE connector that remains directly attached to the battery, but nothing else needs to always be live. Too many wires to disconnect when moving the battery around.

If I want to use the Summit Racing fuse blocks on a switched circuit, would I just connect the hub's power wire to a tail light/headlight wire, or is that too much load on one wire? Is that why other hubs often have a power, ground, AND ignition/switched wire?

Sorry--This is where I start swimming into waters reaching beyond my understanding.
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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2021, 08:20:20 AM »
This is tiny and easy to use and fit. Have no idea why it's so expensive in the US though.
https://touratech-usa.com/Store/TPS-15-CAN-Bus-Output-Helper-fuse-block

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Re: Accessories for V7 or, So Many Wires, So Little Space
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2021, 11:18:57 AM »
Similar to Kiwi Roy I installed a voltage meter (aerostich) on my V7II after reading all the overcharging issues . Fortunately I’ve had non of those . I do monitor voltage when I use my heated gasket liner. I can usually go about 50% on the knob &still maintain 13v charge rate @ 3k +rpm.

 

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