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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #510 on: January 17, 2015, 01:04:58 PM »
Think surface area Chuck. Lock-up can kill you. I can lock drum brakes but don't prefer having to go that far. I respect your opinion however.

I don't use the brakes much on the street, even in the California canyons. I don't see much reason for upgrading the brakes for the way I ride. The front end could use some help, though. I'm thinking out loud here, but maybe Gixxer.. (there are tons of those available, cheap)  ;) if I *really* like this bike after getting the engine sorted. Probably not, though. I have other irons in the fire.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #511 on: January 17, 2015, 01:13:27 PM »
I don't use the brakes much on the street, even in the California canyons. I don't see much reason for upgrading the brakes for the way I ride. The front end could use some help, though. I'm thinking out loud here, but maybe Gixxer.. (there are tons of those available, cheap)  ;) if I *really* like this bike after getting the engine sorted. Probably not, though. I have other irons in the fire.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #512 on: January 17, 2015, 04:41:05 PM »
How are you going to seal up your air intake ports?  I use those same type zerk fittings but got metric ones to fit the ports in the stock manifold.

Thanks for the info on the MIG.  I am still trying to decide if I want to buy a MIG or TIG.  I guess I doubt my ability to TIG weld well since it has been so long since I did it.  I know my arc skills have deteriorated a lot and I was never good with a torch.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #513 on: January 17, 2015, 07:23:17 PM »
How are you going to seal up your air intake ports?  I use those same type zerk fittings but got metric ones to fit the ports in the stock manifold.

Thanks for the info on the MIG.  I am still trying to decide if I want to buy a MIG or TIG.  I guess I doubt my ability to TIG weld well since it has been so long since I did it.  I know my arc skills have deteriorated a lot and I was never good with a torch.

I dunno. I suppose that some of those rubber thingies (technical term) will fit the zerk fittings. MIG is easier than TIG, but not as versatile, IMHO. I can still handle a torch, and more importantly.. see the puddle.  ;)
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Re: Aero engine rescue
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #514 on: January 17, 2015, 07:30:50 PM »
Forgot to show today's progress. It was a short day, but got a little something done. Hooked up the carbs and chokes. Primed the chin fairing mounts and intake manifolds with zinc chromate. That is what is used to prime aircraft, and is *really* good stuff. I've seen 70 year old aircraft tubing that still looks good, and they normally sit in unheated hangers with concrete floors, sweating like a pig.  :o Don't even think of spraying it without a respirator, though...
No picture, but pretend everything was green.  ;D
Ran errands all afternoon while the chromate was drying. Went out after dinner and rattle canned the parts. They're dangling off the heat pump as we type.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #515 on: January 17, 2015, 09:25:33 PM »
I dunno. I suppose that some of those rubber thingies (technical term) will fit the zerk fittings. MIG is easier than TIG, but not as versatile, IMHO. I can still handle a torch, and more importantly.. see the puddle.  ;)

You could try hooking them together with a bit of fuel hose to act as a balancer.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #516 on: January 17, 2015, 10:13:08 PM »
I am assuming Chuck that that heatpump up in the ceiling does your house as well and not just the garage!!! :o

Enjoying the thread. ;-T
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #517 on: January 18, 2015, 01:46:23 AM »
So Chuck what are you going to use to seal off the carb balancing fittings?

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #518 on: January 18, 2015, 10:55:01 AM »
So Chuck what are you going to use to seal off the carb balancing fittings?

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How about this, Phil?  ~; :BEER:
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #519 on: January 18, 2015, 10:57:20 AM »
I am assuming Chuck that that heatpump up in the ceiling does your house as well and not just the garage!!! :o

Enjoying the thread. ;-T

Thanks, Muzz..
It's a very small heat pump with a high efficiency gas furnace hooked up to it as a backup. Just heats the shop.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #520 on: January 18, 2015, 12:01:07 PM »
Ok, finally going together. Put on the O ring..

Mount the chin fairing and torque the through bolt for the last time.

Beginning to look like the real thing.

I love it when a plan comes together.  ;D Basically waiting for Scott to get back from racin so he can weld the exhaust, and for the air cleaners to come in the mail. I suppose I should be asking what oil to put in it for initial startup and break in?  ~; ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #521 on: January 18, 2015, 12:04:31 PM »
wow....  it's looking nice.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #522 on: January 18, 2015, 12:07:39 PM »
You could try hooking them together with a bit of fuel hose to act as a balancer.

Not a bad idea .

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #523 on: January 18, 2015, 12:36:49 PM »
You could try hooking them together with a bit of fuel hose to act as a balancer.

I had that on Rosie and the Centauro. Since changing to simple plugs on Rosie I can't tell any difference. I realize we're talking F.I. vs. carbs. What's the theoretical advantage with carbs?
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #524 on: January 18, 2015, 04:43:30 PM »
You have some extra hose if your fuel line splits..... ~;

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #525 on: January 18, 2015, 06:34:36 PM »
Coming together nicely!!   ;-T Can't wait for a ride report!
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #526 on: January 18, 2015, 06:46:13 PM »

I love it when a plan comes together.  ;D Basically waiting for Scott to get back from racin so he can weld the exhaust, and for the air cleaners to come in the mail. I suppose I should be asking what oil to put in it for initial startup and break in?  ~; ;D

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #527 on: January 18, 2015, 07:49:11 PM »
I had that on Rosie and the Centauro. Since changing to simple plugs on Rosie I can't tell any difference. I realize we're talking F.I. vs. carbs. What's the theoretical advantage with carbs?

A balancing passage or tube is supposed to compensate for any small inequalities that remain in your carburation / intake. I've never had one personally, even on a 3 carbed bike I owned, so I don't know if they actually do any good or not.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #528 on: January 19, 2015, 08:25:21 AM »
It looks like you're very close to finishing this. Fantastic work I think, and I'm really envious of your skills! :-)
Any chance of a video of the first start up?


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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #529 on: January 19, 2015, 08:31:53 AM »
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Any chance of a video of the first start up?

Starting off with a 'hold my beer and watch this.'  ;D
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« Reply #530 on: January 19, 2015, 08:55:02 AM »
That's right, three words have preceeded more trips to ERs than almost all the rest combined!

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« Reply #531 on: January 19, 2015, 11:01:36 AM »
The redneck suicide note "hold my beer, I'm goin' for it!"
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #532 on: January 19, 2015, 04:25:28 PM »
It looks like you're very close to finishing this. Fantastic work I think, and I'm really envious of your skills! :-)
Any chance of a video of the first start up?


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Thanks, it's getting close. Still waiting for my welder to come back from out west. Video is up to Unkept.. if he wants to do it, sure, we'll do a first start video. Hold my beer.. ;D :BEER:
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« Reply #533 on: January 20, 2015, 09:09:53 AM »
I'll be there... First ride video too? :D ;)

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« Reply #534 on: January 20, 2015, 03:44:21 PM »
I'll be there... First ride video too? :D ;)

Cool!! :-)
Who's gonna hold the beer though?


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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #535 on: January 20, 2015, 04:56:11 PM »
Cool!! :-)
Who's gonna hold the beer though?


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Unkept doesn't drink. Other than that minor character fault  ;D ~; he seems like a good guy. He can Shirley hold it, though.  ;D Working (yuck) on a job making steel mill oiler nozzles right now. Progress has ground to a halt. Maybe next week.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #536 on: January 22, 2015, 03:49:20 PM »
The UNIs came in the mail.. looks like they'll be perfect.

The instructions say before use to oil the inner sock with gen u wine UNI oil. Didn't have some. Got some K&N oil, though..

Might as well put em on but first.. I'd eyeballed the sync when I made up the cables. I've heard of using chop sticks to sync carbs, so I thought I'd give it a go. The idea is that it's easy to see which one moves first.. darned if it doesn't work.  ;D

It'll be interesting to see what the carb sticks say when it's started up.
They fit up really well..

More beautiful welding by Scott. I would never have tried welding stainless to mild steel.

Here's where very careful measuring many times and cutting once paid dividends. ;D It went together. A few thousandths off on fitting the flange causes *big* changes at the end of the header..


Yeah, baby!   ;-T This was the fussiest job on the whole conversion.

After a couple of tries, figured out where the line goes from the sump to the breather box, and called it a good 2 hours. Unkept says he can probably make it down from the Shire next Saturday, so I should have it ready to run by then.
Oil  oil.. gotta remember to put oil in it....  ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #537 on: January 22, 2015, 04:47:30 PM »
Very nice Chuck. Clever way to sync carbs. Can't wait for startup.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #538 on: January 22, 2015, 04:53:22 PM »
There wasn't enough room to use chopsticks on my old H2 Kawasaki triple. I had to use nails.    :'(
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« Reply #539 on: January 22, 2015, 05:02:57 PM »
Man! If I win the lottery I'll pm you with an offer you can't refuse!  :BEER:


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