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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2015, 12:51:36 PM »
I'm still working for ATT after 26 years.They are in the process of converting everything to fiber-optic including the service wire directly into your house and are gradually abandoning everything copper related.They'll need much less people,vehicles,unions,ect. in the near future.

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2015, 04:54:07 PM »
What's coming next....


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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2015, 08:09:16 PM »
Those rose colored glasses sure make the past look good. I started working in the telephone industry in 1983 and the party lines and old step by step switching systems were a nightmare to maintain. I was a central office tech and had the misfortune to keep two of the last step by step switches running in the state of WI (for an independent telco)  I was fortunate enough to get my 30 years with the company and retired in 2013. No way would I want to go back to operators and 4 dollars a minute LD calls. We might as well go back to the Stone Age and live in caves, no roads,no electricity, no clean running water...yup them be the good old days....  :grin:

Well, I get that a lot.   "No cell phone" = "Well I guess you want to go back to stone axes huh?"

We weren't all that primitive in 1990 before cell phones and the internet.   We survived, and it was a pretty good life.

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2015, 09:50:53 AM »
It may have been, but, I like it better now.

Heck, I wouldn't have a Guzzi if not for the internet.

PS I also would not have my home business
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2015, 09:58:26 AM »
PS I also would not have my home business

I think about that a lot.  Before the Internet, to sell ignition and other electronics and parts for Kawasaki triples, I'd have to have a network of dealers, circulate printed catalogs, and whatever else I could struggle to set up.  Overseas sales is probably half of what I sell, and that would be miserably difficult without the Internet.  I doubt I could have made it work.  Think of all the small businesses like yours and mine that are possible now, and that wouldn't have been in the good old days.
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2015, 09:58:51 AM »
It may have been, but, I like it better now.

Heck, I wouldn't have a Guzzi if not for the internet.

PS I also would not have my home business

 This  :1: And considering that none of my local friends will leave town or even consider camping out , who would I hang out with W/O my WG buddies ?

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #67 on: November 17, 2015, 10:06:54 AM »
It may have been, but, I like it better now.

Heck, I wouldn't have a Guzzi if not for the internet.

PS I also would not have my home business

I had a Guzzi before I was connected to the Internet.

And I think it's a bit sad that many people "live their lives" "online", through social media, and think that it's all somehow "real".

Kids will get "cyber-bullied" to the point of suicide, without considering that they can just turn their stupid little device off and the "bullying" all goes away.    People on on-line lists complain that someone is trying to "destroy" them or "discredit" them, without considering that all they have to do is ignore it and the problem will disappear; IT'S NOT REAL.    The most horrible and destructive kinds of porn are instantly available to kids anywhere.   

I guess the "on-line" business thing is worth it, but I'm not positive. I dabble around the edges, like this list or paying my bills, but I'll never risk the possibility of thinking this is all "real" somehow without personal interaction.

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2015, 12:08:45 PM »
No one said it was 'real'.  Sadly many youngsters think it is.  But, there are also just as many people that think just cause you shook someone's hand that they are best friends.

Like we told our daughter many years ago, 'they can't be your best friend if you don't know their last name and where they live'.

I love the amount of information that I can reach in seconds.  90% of my masters thesis was spent in research that could have been done in hours these days.  Or, like finding out what is wrong with my Guzzi when it has stopped in the middle of nowhere.

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2015, 12:21:04 PM »
I love the amount of information that I can reach in seconds.  90% of my masters thesis was spent in research that could have been done in hours these days.  Or, like finding out what is wrong with my Guzzi when it has stopped in the middle of nowhere.

Me too.   But too often, I see the signs of "addiction".   Men who used to be strong and self-reliant clutching their GPS to their chest like my 2-year-old granddaughter clutching her blanket, and cooing "Oh, I NEVER consider going on a trip anymore without my GPS.  I just don't know WHAT I'd do".    Or people who ask how I recharge my cell phone on a long trip, and I tell them I don't have one.   They recoil back like they just saw a cobra ready to strike, as if I said I were traveling to Ramadi to preach a series of sermons on Paul.   They can't believe it.

I need to make sure I haven't caught it somehow.   I think I'll try a little experiment.

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2015, 12:38:22 PM »
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I'd forgotten how they used to make things back when stuff was supposed to actually work and last, and not just be the latest widget or gewgaw.

I keep a rotary at home on my land line because when the power goes out the old rotary still works - which most people don't know. 

Also when there's a major problem the first thing to be overloaded is the cell phone towers.

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Men who used to be strong and self-reliant clutching their GPS to their chest like my 2-year-old granddaughter clutching her blanket, and cooing "Oh, I NEVER consider going on a trip anymore without my GPS.  I just don't know WHAT I'd do".

Some of us still use those ancient wood fiber & ink displays called maps.  This along with the ability to "over there", we navigate by the sun and stars.  We don't trust those little battery powered picture boxes that talk to you.  Maybe it comes from not wanting to get lost in the mountains where the boxes don't work.
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2015, 12:52:10 PM »
Me too.   But too often, I see the signs of "addiction".   Men who used to be strong and self-reliant clutching their GPS to their chest like my 2-year-old granddaughter clutching her blanket, and cooing "Oh, I NEVER consider going on a trip anymore without my GPS.  I just don't know WHAT I'd do".    Or people who ask how I recharge my cell phone on a long trip, and I tell them I don't have one.   They recoil back like they just saw a cobra ready to strike, as if I said I were traveling to Ramadi to preach a series of sermons on Paul.   They can't believe it.

I need to make sure I haven't caught it somehow.   I think I'll try a little experiment.



Interesting, Lannis, as 1 of the few times I use my cell ph. is on road trips.  Otherwise, like you, I use the internet as you do, mostly for e-mail, MC interest, bills.  Don't have/need a GPS either.  Have  map/holder for that.   :boozing:  No computer messaging for me(don't even know what you call it.).


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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2015, 04:39:23 PM »
I almost always have my cell phone with me.  It is used mostly for entertainment, like reading books, listening to music, surfing the net, responding to folks in forums or playing games.  On a trip it is also used as a GPS, trip planner, and weather radar as well as a moving 'beacon' so the wife can keep track of me :)

I also keep my good paper maps in a map pocket on top of the tank bag.

I do like being able to communicate almost full time, especially when I am traveling alone.
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2015, 04:57:23 PM »
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I love the amount of information that I can reach in seconds.  90% of my masters thesis was spent in research that could have been done in hours these days.  Or, like finding out what is wrong with my Guzzi when it has stopped in the middle of nowhere.

I'll give you that. Back in the day, I used to practically live in the library when I wasn't at work.  :smiley: Not really, but a lot of time just the same. Now, most of the world's knowledge is available by a little internet sleuthing. There's a lot of crap to wade through, too..  :wink:
What little I know about Guzzis is definitely mined here.  :thumb: Reminder to self.. make a donation..
That said, when I'm traveling on a bike, I prefer it to be solo with maps. I prefer to be places where fones don't work, and there is no real need for one. <snapping suspenders> I guess you'd have to say I swing both ways.  :shocked: :smiley:
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2015, 05:17:53 PM »
 Uh Chuckie , oh never mind  :grin:

 I don't really trust GPS , it get people from Memphis lost in the Ozarks of Missouri  :evil: Now the cell phone , well now , that is a different  :evil:hing . Pretty handy when sitting at the intersection of " this road ain't on the map " , and " what the hell are you doing out here?" at 2 AM , almost out of gas , and hungry . 

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #75 on: November 18, 2015, 02:45:47 AM »
I don't miss my first mobile phone, it weighed about 3 kilos, required a shoulder bag and I had to hang it in a tree while I was working in the bush. While here, I'll mention our toaster which is about 50 years old, you have to flip the bread half way through but it has survived a long line of modern offerings and keeps reappearing (smugly) on our kitchen bench .
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #76 on: November 18, 2015, 03:45:20 AM »
As long as it has some tactile feedback.



My keyboards gotta click!


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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2015, 07:54:47 AM »
LOL, I used to keep an old IBM keyboard.  They made them specifically for people like me who were used to typing on an IBM Selectric.  Solid, heavy duty, and distinct CLICK.  I gave it up when I moved to laptops.

Fountain pens.  Another item I used to use a lot.  Now days they sit in a drawer, hoping that someday pen and paper will become popular again.  Also have my father's Esterbrooks (the Bic of fountain pens).
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2015, 08:27:58 AM »
LOL, I used to keep an old IBM keyboard.  They made them specifically for people like me who were used to typing on an IBM Selectric.  Solid, heavy duty, and distinct CLICK.  I gave it up when I moved to laptops.

A lot of people are into those now.  My son has a couple that he has completely disassembled, cleaned, and reassembled, and also added circuitry to make them USB compatible.  There's information on the web (of course) to make it fairly easy if you like projects.  I used to like projects more when I was my son's age.   Now they appear out of nowhere in droves, and I have to ignore the non-urgent ones.  :grin:
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #79 on: November 18, 2015, 09:46:20 AM »
Being trained to type on a manual typewriter, there's no way I can type on a computer keyboard w/o numerous errors due to the keys being too light.  :rolleyes:   I'm hamstrung.

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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2015, 12:58:12 PM »
Wayne,

That's why I liked the IBM, it took a bit more force than the little electronic ones.  And, yes, I learned on a very old Remington.  It was the portable that my Dad used in college in the 40's.  The original "laptop".  :)

Jim,

I guess I should go back down to the surplus place here in town.  They have stacks and stacks of old keyboards.  Although probably most are Zenith (the original govt PC contract).
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Re: We've gotten used to Tat.
« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2015, 01:18:20 PM »
Jim,

I guess I should go back down to the surplus place here in town.  They have stacks and stacks of old keyboards.  Although probably most are Zenith (the original govt PC contract).

Only if you or someone you know wants a project.  :-)   Actually you might be able to make a profit by selling them on eBay, but some specific models are more desirable than others, and I'd have to ask my son which ones are the good ones.
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