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Huh ? Read back over the entire thread . Dusty
I don't know why, but I just don't like BMW's....not even their cars. Well... Maybe one exception. Their old 650 that shared an engine with aprilia (Rotax).
I did before I asked. The only things I see are the presentation of the article and a failure to drink the kool-aid. He's not flattering the Marquee, but being a contrarian isn't a crime -- yet. I can start posting pictures of the ungreased bearings, swollen filters, bubbling engines, warty gas tanks, fake recall service and peeling chrome I've collected if you think criticism of the brand is unjustified.
Seems you have an ax to grind . Maybe this isn't the best place for that . Dusty
(Deleted)You know what? F-It. No point.
Why isn't Guzzi forum the best place to vent Guzzi concerns? Are you fragile in some way? Are you a motorcyclist or bicyclist?And why would venting concerns about Guzzi's future equate to having "an axe to grind"? Is that a stock sentence you've carried around your whole life and used anytime someone says something you disagreee with?
Why isn't Guzzi forum the best place to vent Guzzi concerns?
Let's parse this out . When Moto Guzzi was being supported by the Govt in Italy , and trust me , they were being supported , they could lose money on a flagship model that sold in the tens . Now that Govt support has dried up , and they are required to produce at least some profit . Piaggio isn't very sentimental , they are a profit minded corporation . So , what new models are selling and at what price point ? Apparently the answer is the V7 , and the 1400 . Given the fiasco with the high performance 4 valve engines , it is easy to see why Piaggio is reluctant to give MG any money or space to develop a new sporting model .Is it not unreasonable to expect a company that sells what, 8,000 motorbikes a year to spend the R&D money necessary to create a modern LeMans that will sell in very limited numbers and probably lose money ? Maybe the new V85 will be a big success and put Guzzi well back into the black , similar to the way the R80 GS did for BMW .Funny isn't it , an incredibly basic MC saved BMW , allowing them to stay in business at a time when the Car side which controlled the company was ready to pull the plug on the MC division . Anyway , you can't reasonably expect a tiny little motorbike company that is now required to turn a profit to build another hi-tech 2-wheeler to compete with the big boys until they prove they can operate at a profit . The modern world doesn't allow a nonprofitable company to survive .
I feel a bit like a traitor, but I just put down a deposit on this bike (well, one that looks like that bike):Why?Comfort over long-distances at high speedWeather protectionPowerWater-proof panniersPanniers that open and close easilyNo head buffeting (at least for my height)Being able to field telephone calls while riding is a plus (my helmet setup is not great for that)I love my Norge, but it is just not up to the task at hand. Its element is 40-60 miles per hour, on twisty, scenic roads. I need an Autobahn stormer for my 300-mile, 80 MPH roundtrip commute.
We see this type of thing come up every 6 months or so , someone is frustrated with the Mothership because they aren't building a 120 HP 400 LB sporting motorcycle , all of the small blocks are junk , why can't Piaggio give us something that honors Moto Guuzi's racing heritage, Honda builds better bikes , Harley has a better dealer network , oh woe is me . All it really accomplishes is to deliver a slightly veiled insult to all of the happy small block owners who say the modern SB is their favorite motorbike ever , those folks like Smithswede who ride their POS V7's 500 miles a day , or Beaver who shows up at rallies all over the country on her junk behind the times old tech V7 . The Mothership ain't reading WG . Top that off with the fact that the article quoted in the OP comes from what amounts to a clickbait site , and there you have it . Dusty
It�s a forum so statements of opinion are welcome .....
Well, sometimes you wouldn't know it. Some people just lose control when they see an opinion stated that's diametrically opposite to theirs ....Lannis
I like turtlesThink I'll go ride the Mighty GRiSO against doctor's orders...
You have to also consider that over half of all motorcycle sales are in the cruiser category. (in the USA)
And goat leggins.John Henry
bemoan it like the steel cutter went down at the oats mill.
Say it ain't so..I like small blocks. Is there a program for that?