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Absolutely no snark intended , but if you aren't mechanically inclined , a Ducati probably isn't a good choice . Dusty
I've been looking for an affordable norge and ended up buying an st3. I've only put a few hundred miles on it but so far so good. It definitely is more sport than touring !It handles great, feels light at all times and has a LOT of power, even compared to my griso.
If your talking about bevel head Ducati's I might agree. Anything later and I don't agree at all. Heck my 900ss is easier to work on than my DL650
dsrdave,I notice there's a '91 LM in your gaggle. Rocker 59's via Chuck in Indiana if I'm correct. I also have a'91 (one of only 17 imported that year) and love it. How would you compare the ST3 to the LM. I know they're separated by 25 years but would appreciate your thoughts. Do you ride two-up at all? If so, how does your passenger like the ST vs. LM?Thanks,SM
Correct. You've obviously been paying attention. Dorcia liked the LM considerably better than the ST2. It's hard to compare the bikes, though.. they are *completely* different. The LM is an elemental "freight train" with relaxed ergos compared to the "Sport bike with bags" Duck. The Duck will out perform the LM everywhere.. handling, braking, acceleration, as you might imagine. I, personally, have made my choice. Gimme a Guzzi.
Good points - the ST2s and early ST4/ST4s had a fairly aggressive seating position. They needed bar risers and a better seat to be acceptable. Did that to mine and it was fine. ST3s and later ST4S, 2004+ have the ergos sorted but i think the seats are still junk. i bought a Sargent ($450) for mine and it was great.
Funny how we progressed from a gentle warning about maintenance on a motorcycle brand to a full blown "they are the greatest most reliable bikes ever built and if you can't see that ..." Dusty
Was it a gentle warning or an opinion?
Both . Look , even Chuck said basically the same thing . Ducatis are cool , but if you can't do your own mechanical stuff they can be expensive . Dusty
So can Honda��s, Suzuki �s, Kawasaki�s, BMW�s, Guzzi�s and every other brand of motorcycle. It isn�t an exclusivity to Ducati ownership even though many like to portray that it it. If you can�t or don�t what to do the work yourself and rely on a dealer to do the work, no matter what brand it�s going to be expensive.
All true in some cases , but there are cheaper and simpler alternatives . There are more dealers and independent mechanics who are familiar with the Japanese brands than with Ducati . For me , sorting out a Norge would be a simpler solution , but the OP already ruled that out , seems that dealing with another Italian bike would present the same issues . That was my point all along . Dusty
So by the reasoning in you second sentence the OP should defiantly stay away from Moto Guzzi, correct? The Ducati dealer network is probably 10 or 20 times what Guzzi is.Look I get it but it galls me when people arbitrarily throw out Ducati's are "expensive to maintain" (and someone always does) when that truly isn't the case.
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