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If Mandello built this ...
« on: September 22, 2016, 04:11:51 AM »
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2016, 06:51:27 AM »
What happened to the seat in the last two pics? The foam collapse?
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2016, 06:54:58 AM »
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2016, 06:57:07 AM »
What happened to the seat in the last two pics? The foam collapse?

It went the same place that the air filters, the mufflers, and the rest of the front fender went ...
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 07:26:01 AM »
Hey, a guzzi husquvarna!
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2016, 03:36:53 PM »
Oh fer, OK, you want Guzzi to go back to building non compliant, antiquated shitters designed by a hipster with access to photoshop? Well, I hate to say it but your wish has been granted!

The new ones are smart in the engine management department and to a degree powerplant and driveline design which will probably scare you off but as far as chassis technology and appearance are concerned they should be making a bit of wee come out! After all, if you admire a photoshoped pic of a munty old Quota, (which were a nightmare to tune btw.) with a five speed gearbox dressed up in a bunch of masturbatory bling I'd guess you are a full-on poster child for the Piaggio marketing droids who are so determined to kill the company.

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2016, 03:40:29 PM »
That has my name all over it.... I wonder how much? :popcorn: :bike-037:
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2016, 04:01:32 PM »
Unbelievably bad timing on the naming of the bike...considering the earthquake (terremoto) in Amatrice, Italy.  I certainly hope they realize the irony of this when selling it as an Italian earthquake.

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2016, 04:18:22 PM »
Oh fer, OK, you want Guzzi to go back to building non compliant, antiquated shitters designed by a hipster with access to photoshop? Well, I hate to say it but your wish has been granted!

The new ones are smart in the engine management department and to a degree powerplant and driveline design which will probably scare you off but as far as chassis technology and appearance are concerned they should be making a bit of wee come out! After all, if you admire a photoshoped pic of a munty old Quota, (which were a nightmare to tune btw.) with a five speed gearbox dressed up in a bunch of masturbatory bling I'd guess you are a full-on poster child for the Piaggio marketing droids who are so determined to kill the company.

Carry on.

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2016, 04:42:59 PM »
The original is so much more elegant IMHO

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2016, 05:59:53 PM »
Probably sell more of these .....


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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2016, 11:32:44 AM »
Oh fer, OK, you want Guzzi to go back to building non compliant, antiquated shitters designed by a hipster with access to photoshop? Well, I hate to say it but your wish has been granted!

The new ones are smart in the engine management department and to a degree powerplant and driveline design which will probably scare you off but as far as chassis technology and appearance are concerned they should be making a bit of wee come out! After all, if you admire a photoshoped pic of a munty old Quota, (which were a nightmare to tune btw.) with a five speed gearbox dressed up in a bunch of masturbatory bling I'd guess you are a full-on poster child for the Piaggio marketing droids who are so determined to kill the company.

Carry on.

Technical details, wether the bike is EURO 4 compliant or what it is based on aside, because to me its obvious that if Madello built it as per the thread title it WOULD be compliant.  :rolleyes:

I like the way it looks.

I am NOT a hipster and have little tolerance for them per se. But if they are partly responsible for a styling shift at Mandello - which i believe to necessary as there are a whole lot of UGLY Guzzis out there old and new - then i can take that as a win. Additionally, i am happy to see ANYONE riding a motorcycle regardless of their style, age or beliefs.

Mandello,  IMHO, needs to get away from producing bikes for (late) middle aged men who dont want to buy Japanese. Its adapt to their economic enviroment or watch sales slowy drop to nothing. Ducati saw the same and produced the Scrambler (a great bike IMHO) and are selling them as fast as they can be built.
Its Darwin at work, adapt and survive or become extinct. If Guzzi produced more bikes that you hate they may well be a more sucessful manufacturer.
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2016, 09:52:07 AM »
beauty is in the eye of the red suspenders....
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2016, 11:35:01 AM »
Technical details, wether the bike is EURO 4 compliant or what it is based on aside, because to me its obvious that if Madello built it as per the thread title it WOULD be compliant.  :rolleyes:

I like the way it looks.

I am NOT a hipster and have little tolerance for them per se. But if they are partly responsible for a styling shift at Mandello - which i believe to necessary as there are a whole lot of UGLY Guzzis out there old and new - then i can take that as a win. Additionally, i am happy to see ANYONE riding a motorcycle regardless of their style, age or beliefs.

Mandello,  IMHO, needs to get away from producing bikes for (late) middle aged men who dont want to buy Japanese. Its adapt to their economic enviroment or watch sales slowy drop to nothing. Ducati saw the same and produced the Scrambler (a great bike IMHO) and are selling them as fast as they can be built.
Its Darwin at work, adapt and survive or become extinct. If Guzzi produced more bikes that you hate they may well be a more sucessful manufacturer.

Congratulations! You completely missed my point!

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2016, 11:44:28 AM »
If Mandello built this, I wouldn´t buy it.
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2016, 12:41:45 PM »

I am NOT a hipster and have little tolerance for them per se. ..........

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I am happy to see ANYONE riding a motorcycle regardless of their style, age or beliefs.



I assume that this means that you "tolerate" hipsters as long as they are on a motorcycle ... ?   :wink:

And there ARE some people that I (and I suspect you) aren't happy to see on a motorcycle.   Swarms of dangerous squids passing you at 100 MPH, leather-clad gangers with get-back whips who will try to wreck you if you pass them because you are inferior to them .... It's not all a KumBahYah world out there ....

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2016, 12:57:33 PM »
I assume that this means that you "tolerate" hipsters as long as they are on a motorcycle ... ?   :wink:

And there ARE some people that I (and I suspect you) aren't happy to see on a motorcycle.   Swarms of dangerous squids passing you at 100 MPH, leather-clad gangers with get-back whips who will try to wreck you if you pass them because you are inferior to them .... It's not all a KumBahYah world out there ....

Lannis

Tolerate is perhaps not the right word, but i am happier to see them on caféd BMWs than sitting sitting in a PRIUS (which due to the quiet nature have nearly run me over 3 times now). Anyone on a bike can't be all bad i guess is my position.
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2016, 01:02:04 PM »
Congratulations! You completely missed my point!

then maybe you didn't make it properly?!?!?!? Or take the time to now.

Sorry but the future of companies like Ducati or Guzzi is bikes like that, certainly financially. You can only hope, or pray if thats your bag, that they still build something you will tolerate financed by something you hate.
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2016, 01:12:57 PM »
I don't like it.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2016, 02:18:16 PM »
then maybe you didn't make it properly?!?!?!? Or take the time to now.

Sorry but the future of companies like Ducati or Guzzi is bikes like that, certainly financially. You can only hope, or pray if thats your bag, that they still build something you will tolerate financed by something you hate.

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2016, 02:19:12 PM »
Fortunately there are other bikes for sale.
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2016, 05:47:02 PM »
OK, this machine focuses my disappearing gray matter a little.  I have a question which has been forming for several years...

Seriously, what is the attraction in contemporary motorcycle styling?  That is, many motorcycles, not only Moto Guzzis, look to me like angry insects; head down, tail up, as though looking for someone to sting.  Why do we now see so many people riding motorcycles which make them appear to be about to fly over the handle bars?  There must be a reason.

The open rear wheel and no rear fender may be appropriate for a dirt bike but why is it good for a touring or commuting motor?  When Guzzi went from the loop frames to the early Tonti frame machines, I was horrified: the new machines had the ugliest lines ever given to a motorcycle.  Well, the style was greatly determined by the gas tank, and after several years I came to really appreciate that added gallon and a half tank, so my opinion changed. 

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2016, 06:30:15 PM »
OK, this machine focuses my disappearing gray matter a little.  I have a question which has been forming for several years...

Seriously, what is the attraction in contemporary motorcycle styling?  That is, many motorcycles, not only Moto Guzzis, look to me like angry insects; head down, tail up, as though looking for someone to sting.  Why do we now see so many people riding motorcycles which make them appear to be about to fly over the handle bars?  There must be a reason.

The open rear wheel and no rear fender may be appropriate for a dirt bike but why is it good for a touring or commuting motor? 

It's not good for a touring or commuting motor.   You and I are living in a very small motorcycling world in which we actually USE our motorcycles for touring and commuting and general riding in all weathers, and generally needing to carry something (work clothes, tools, camping gear, etc), and we EXPECT them to be practical, and to keep road grime off of us and such.

For better or for worse, the fact is that most motorcyclists (and I thought before I typed "Most") don't care about any of those things.   They care about riding to Cruise Night on Main Street, or to the bar or coffee shop with their buds, or cruising up to the Parkway on a sunny Sunday afternoon with a crowd of like-minded people, or going to the "Roaring Rally" or the "Thunder Gun" or the "Rumble in the Jungle", and roaring and thundering and rumbling.

Now all of that is fine, no motorcyclists were harmed in the writing of this post, but it means that You and I are looking for something very different in a motorcycle than most people, the big motorcycling market with lots of dollars and a desire to upgrade every year or two.   

When you look at what is being offered in style and function, you have to remember who it is FOR ....

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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2016, 06:49:00 PM »
When Guzzi went from the loop frames to the early Tonti frame machines, I was horrified: the new machines had the ugliest lines ever given to a motorcycle.  Well, the style was greatly determined by the gas tank, and after several years I came to really appreciate that added gallon and a half tank, so my opinion changed.

Not quite accurate. The Eldorado tank is 5.8 gallons, the T is 6.6 gallons - a mere .8 gallon more.
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Re: If Mandello built this ...
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2016, 09:07:21 AM »
When Guzzi went from the loop frames to the early Tonti frame machines, I was horrified: the new machines had the ugliest lines ever given to a motorcycle. 

Now I know taste is subjective but you might be the only man in the world to call a V7 sport ugly!!

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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2016, 01:16:12 PM »
The SP's look cool as the LeMans series.  1000S, 750S.  Those are good looking Tonti framed bikes. :thumb:
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