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Title: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: lucydad on March 06, 2015, 09:40:25 AM
All,

Nasty one here:

http://www.click2houston.com/news/mcso-deputy-charged-in-january-motorcycle-crash-that-killed-patrol-deputy/31635972

They did everything wrong.  Sheesh.  No mercy if I was on the jury, or the judge.  I think I met this deputy...looks really familiar.

Hence why I turn down the ride and drink stuff from the HD crowd.  Been invited many times.  Nope, I will finish my water or coffee and keep riding, but not to a Galveston County bar for a "few" beers.

Ok, I am going to call momster, and take out the Cannondale for a ride.  Need some endorphins. 
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 06, 2015, 09:49:56 AM
wow the comments at the bottom are pretty viscous.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: donn on March 06, 2015, 09:50:52 AM
I don't know.  Some idiot in a pickup truck came within inches of punching my ticket yesterday about noon, perfectly sober but I would have been just as dead.  Hope your bike ride is a good one.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: rocker59 on March 06, 2015, 10:05:37 AM
3am and a .168 BAC    :o
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: oldbike54 on March 06, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
Mom always taught me to be off the streets before midnight because nothing good happens after then . Sad case .

  Dusty


Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: normzone on March 06, 2015, 10:32:53 AM
wow the comments at the bottom are pretty viscous.

I have no trouble siding with this commenter:

" Selmser should get a much higher charge because the Constablette was hot. Killing a hot chick should carry severe penalties "
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: oldbike54 on March 06, 2015, 10:51:20 AM
I have no trouble siding with this commenter:

" Selmser should get a much higher charge because the Constablette was hot. Killing a hot chick should carry severe penalties "

 Hot maybe , but not too bright .

  Dusty
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: segesta on March 06, 2015, 11:04:57 AM
I'm not sure I could even fish at .168 BAC, much less operate a motor vehicle. A sad tale all around.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Triple Jim on March 06, 2015, 11:16:14 AM
Interestingly, the legal limit to drive a car in Maryland, DC and Virginia when I was 18 was .15% blood alcohol.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: normzone on March 06, 2015, 11:28:55 AM
I'm not sure I could even fish at .168 BAC, much less operate a motor vehicle. A sad tale all around.

I went to a BAC chart to see what that would mean for me - it looks like that would equate to about all I could drink on a day dedicated to drinking, at the end of the day.

I think I could fish but I would probably fall in as well.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: lucydad on March 06, 2015, 11:46:56 AM
Yep, dredged my memory.  I met this officer about a year ago at a fundraiser.

Damn. 
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: rocker59 on March 06, 2015, 12:23:20 PM
Interestingly, the legal limit to drive a car in Maryland, DC and Virginia when I was 18 was .15% blood alcohol.

Yeah, the "good old days"!

I'm pretty sure today .08 is universal for most places for most people in The USA.

.01-.05 for minors and .01-.04 for CDL drivers.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on March 06, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
  Driving anything when it is drynk out is extramely dangerous.  I like many tohers did a lot of it when I was younger
  but by some perverse brace surfived and did not kill anyone else.  Many times I have wondered why that is.
  I used to ride with one perchnters who were nearly always drunk or stoned.  Many of them are dead now,
   and in most cases dui was involved.  I stooped all drink some years ago of reasons of my health and have found
  that I am still able to make an ass of myself without alchohol.  I guess that proves that I didn't really need it anyway.

 Wow Autocorrect really had fun with me on this one.
 Since this I experimented by typing one letter at a time and watching it change my words. 
 Sometimes I would erase the error and retype only to watch it do the same thing.
 Autocorrect sucks and I don't seem to be able to get rid of it.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Bill Hagan on March 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
 
***
I stopped all drink some years ago of reasons of my health and have found that I am still able to make an ass of myself without alcohol. 

***

That is really, really funny.    :D

Bill
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Spuddy on March 06, 2015, 01:11:10 PM
Quote
I stooped all drink some years ago of reasons of my health and have found that I am still able to make an ass of myself without alcohol.

Ditto.  I still have those character anomalies I had when I was imbibing.  But years ago I realized I earned my merit badge in booze, etc, so it was time to go asshole ala naturale.

Spuddy
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: LongRanger on March 06, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
Oh well, just another DUI motorcycle fatality. Nothing to see, folks, now move along. I'm sure there will be many, many more to come. It's just a shame the wrong person died in this one.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Triple Jim on March 06, 2015, 02:47:59 PM
Yeah, the "good old days"!

On top of the .15% limit, it wasn't illegal to drink while driving, other than a violation of the no-eating while driving rule.  So as long as you kept moving and didn't stop, you were OK.  Stopping the car in a parking lot and drinking could mean you were "drinking in public", which was a violation.  MD, DC, and VA were among the last to change to the .08% limit too.  That almost certainly was influenced by the large number of public servants that live around DC and didn't want to find themselves in violation of the law on a regular basis.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: oldbike54 on March 06, 2015, 02:59:38 PM
Oh well, just another DUI motorcycle fatality. Nothing to see, folks, now move along. I'm sure there will be many, many more to come. It's just a shame the wrong person died in this one.

 OK , devil's advocate here . The young lady that died in this incident was a patrol deputy , which would indicate that she had some knowledge of the law . She chose to participate in the night's activities , willingly one would guess . All she had to do was not get on the back of the MC . Seems to me that she also bears at least some responsibility in this instance . Sad that she died , and the operator should be prosecuted , but , the young lady could have made a better decision . This could and should be used as a cautionary tale .

  Dusty
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: rocker59 on March 06, 2015, 03:05:26 PM
This could and should be used as a cautionary tale .

  Dusty

Yeah.

"Have yo ass home by 'leven"

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1BfzsqSzLPVf_YLBt4VoolsRhLEEvxn9tAZmU_etQy0i-tZDDFw)
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: lucydad on March 06, 2015, 03:07:54 PM
Dusty,

Completely agree.  She may have also been a bit under the influence?  Very poor choice.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: oldbike54 on March 06, 2015, 03:17:54 PM
Dusty,

Completely agree.  She may have also been a bit under the influence?  Very poor choice.

 If she was sober then it would make the decision to passenger even less understandable . Yeah , I know , only 21 years old , bulletproof , and all that , still ...

  Dusty
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: LongRanger on March 06, 2015, 05:14:08 PM
Your point is well taken, but in my view she's not culpable and did nothing to contribute to the accident (from what I can tell). Kinda like relying on a designated driver to get you home safely, except they're drunk too and decide to get you killed. Cops are allowed to get drunk like the rest of us -- I don't see that she did anything illegal. Dumb, perhaps, but not illegal.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: oldbike54 on March 06, 2015, 05:26:49 PM
Your point is well taken, but in my view she's not culpable for the accident and did nothing to contribute to it (from what I can tell). Kinda like relying on a designated driver to get you home safely, but they're drunk too and decide to get you killed. Cops are allowed to get drunk like the rest of us -- I don't see that she did anything illegal. Dumb, perhaps, but not illegal.

 Not speaking to legality . But either she was a participant in the party , or if she was sober and chose to get on behind the guy , she knew the risk . Not making light of the situation , but if someone is a willing participant in a raw dumb act of stupidity , my belief is they bear some of the responsibility . Like mom used to say , just because your friends are doing something stupid or illegal doesn't mean you should join in .

  Dusty
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: LongRanger on March 06, 2015, 05:33:21 PM
Got it. I agree with your mom.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: oldbike54 on March 06, 2015, 05:44:12 PM
Got it. I agree with your mom.

 Amazing how smart moms can be  :D

  Dusty
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Vasco DG on March 06, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
One of the nice things about Bungendore is our pubs both have a booze bus. Walk or drive down and if you have enough to put you over, (0.05 in Oz.) you just get the bus home and collect yer car next day.

If you get on the back of a bike with a pissed idiot on the front I'm afraid you have nobody to blame but yourself if things go pear shaped. Same with a car.

Pete
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: krglorioso on March 06, 2015, 10:20:13 PM
I have to wonder what the outcome of the accident might have been had Texas been a mandatory helmet state.

Just sayin..

Ralph
Wearing a helmet since 1955.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Penderic on March 07, 2015, 06:08:21 AM
Best place to crash?

"Spine surgeon Sanjay Khurana was playing golf Thursday when a single-engine, World War II-era plane crashed on the course.

Khurana operated on instinct, he says, running to the scene to ensure the pilot was safe.

“He was stunned a bit,” Khurana said. “He was moaning and in pain.”

https://gma.yahoo.com/harrison-ford-plane-crash-described-golfing-spine-surgeon-130331212--abc-news-celebrities.html



Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Rough Edge racing on March 07, 2015, 06:33:16 AM
 I weigh 165 pounds so according to the charts I can probably get away with about three beers in an hour....I seldom drink alcohol and believe me three beers in an hour or so and I'm impaired. Alcohol at even a small amount causes some stupidity even in experienced drinkers...anyone who denies this is...well... in denial  ;D
 
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: dilligaf on March 07, 2015, 07:39:26 AM
I have to wonder what the outcome of the accident might have been had Texas been a mandatory helmet state.

Just sayin..

Ralph
Wearing a helmet since 1955.

Then we all would be saying "Gee and they were wearing helmets". The only reason this even made the new is because these folks were involved with the police force.  And the only reason we are discussing this is because it's Winter.  ::(  :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: oldbike54 on March 07, 2015, 08:11:19 AM
Best place to crash?

"Spine surgeon Sanjay Khurana was playing golf Thursday when a single-engine, World War II-era plane crashed on the course.

Khurana operated on instinct, he says, running to the scene to ensure the pilot was safe.

“He was stunned a bit,” Khurana said. “He was moaning and in pain.”

https://gma.yahoo.com/harrison-ford-plane-crash-described-golfing-spine-surgeon-130331212--abc-news-celebrities.html









 Yeah , really wanted to post about this , but with all of the complaining about NGC lately ... :D

  Dusty
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: Buckturgidson on March 07, 2015, 08:23:51 AM
Doesn't hold a candle to the Indianapolis cop that plowed his patrol car at 60 mph into motorcyclists stopped at a light. He was blind drunk on vodka at 11:30 am and on duty. Don't know how to post articles but if you go to indystar.com and search Bisard over 100 articles come up.
The crazy part is that originally no charges were filed. After waiting almost an hour his fellow cops took him for a blood draw. They took him to a facility (on purpose) that did not have the correct certification to draw blood used as evidence. Thank God on appeal a judge ruled the blood could be used and he is in jail. He was around 0.17 two hours after the crash. He also got a second DUI in his truck awaiting trial.
Title: Re: local Houston motorcycle crash, death: wow
Post by: dilligaf on March 07, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
And our Sherriff got drunk and did a hit and run. :o  The  :+=copcar chased him down with speed exceeding 100MPH. He was driving a county truck at the time.  P:) Got him stopped and arrested him.  ;-T He still got reelected and there was some sort of peeing contest about could a Sherriff be arrested by the SC Highway Patrol.  ::)  Only the Governor can remove a Sherriff in SC and I think that was about to happen so he resigned.  ;-T  We now have 16-yes 16-canadits for the Sherriff of Berkeley County, SC. You have just got to love it.  :BEER:
Matt