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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2019, 08:02:56 PM »
Jet engines are the work of the devil!   :violent1:

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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2019, 10:29:27 AM »
Jet engines are the work of the devil!   :violent1:


True statement.  When you take them apart there is not much interesting, unless you get into the geartrain.  A compound supercharger on a 28 cylinder corncob, now that gets interesting
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2019, 12:38:02 PM »

True statement.  When you take them apart there is not much interesting, unless you get into the geartrain.  A compound supercharger on a 28 cylinder corncob, now that gets interesting
Quite an engine.  Took this pic at an air museum near Phoenix (CAF.) Imagine being assigned to do a spark plug change on a Consolidated B-36.




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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2019, 06:09:49 PM »
 The Piaggio P180 is the most unique sounding aircraft I've ever heard , was told it was because it is a pusher , and maybe that is part of it , but having heard other pushers , the P180 still sound different .

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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2019, 06:26:09 PM »
Pushers definitely sound "different."
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2019, 06:30:28 PM »
The Piaggio P180 is the most unique sounding aircraft I've ever heard , was told it was because it is a pusher , and maybe that is part of it , but having heard other pushers , the P180 still sound different.

The Piaggio P.166 is an older design that doesnít have a tremendous amount in common with the Avanti except for wing mounted turboprop engines and pusher propellers, and it makes a very similar sound. So it must be something that arises from that particular configuration.
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2019, 06:46:17 PM »
I've flown this Variviggen.   Strange airplane, although it flies sort of normally.  :smiley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgbGpulUJdU
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2019, 07:47:50 PM »
The Starship was another pusher and had a very distinctive sound.
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2019, 07:50:49 PM »
The Starship was another pusher and had a very distinctive sound.
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Yeah, a local guy flew one for a while. He liked it.
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2019, 07:56:54 PM »
Yeah, a local guy flew one for a while. He liked it.

Cessna ran an ad shortly after the Starship came out showing that you could actually operate a Citation (business jet) cheaper than the Starship and have a host of other advantages.  Beech knew the writing was on the wall before they delivered the first one.  But, it sure was a stunningly different looking airplane.
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2019, 07:58:24 PM »
Interesting article on Titanium and it's use in, among other things, supercharged B-29 engines in CycleWorld by Kevin Camaron.
He went on to say that if there was a backfire into the supercharger the Ti would ignite leaving the crew between 30 and 60 seconds to exit the plane prior to wing collapse.
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2019, 09:13:55 PM »
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2019, 09:21:55 AM »
https://youtu.be/_t3akMEm9bI
This is a video of the engines being built, kind of heartbreaking that it was all scrapped
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2019, 03:46:33 PM »
https://youtu.be/_t3akMEm9bI
This is a video of the engines being built, kind of heartbreaking that it was all scrapped

Thanks for that!  :thumb: I sometimes wonder if we would be *capable* of doing that again..
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Re: B-29 pattern work [not a Guzzi]
« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2019, 04:40:37 PM »
Thanks for that!  :thumb: I sometimes wonder if we would be *capable* of doing that again..

Considerin RR for thier trent engines "grow" thier high speed turbine blade simlar to a crystal so the structure is optimised at a molecular level, I'd say yes it could be done, why you would do it on the other hand is a whole different question a turbo prop as fitted to things like the C130 is more reliable a lot lighter and makes more power. I'm sure i've mentioned it before but aircraft stuff has a fatigue life you can endlessly rebuild it, the second law of thermodynamics catches up with everything eventually.

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