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Different times - different cultures. This thread is quickly starting to look like old curmudgeons vs new owners.
Yes, bleak. I was at a local event for the 100th Anniversary a couple of weekends ago (thanks Mario, good fun).There were 100-ish bikes there. One V85 and a V7, I think. And a single. Every other bike was a big block. And very few riders looked under 50, if any. You know what they say about languages when there are no longer any native speakers under about 5 years old? Yeah...we're some way past that stage...
Thanks for the observation Dimitri. This board is majority populated by North Americans, and as such they sometimes forget that the rest of the world isn’t exactly the same.
I just sincerely hope they bring back the California line or develop some other cruiser. Taking it back to 1100 would be fine with me. I'm a little guy, so that's plenty of power, imo. If they don't, I may just stick with the two I have and keep them well maintained, but never buy another Guzzi.
Maybe younger riders don't want to hang out with a bunch of old guys anyway.Maybe the younger riders are riding V85s and V7s and not going to stupid "anniversary" celebrations they don't care about (yet).Maybe those same younger riders will become older riders and go to the 125th or 150th anniversary celebrations because they will be old and boring then too?!?Only partially tongue-in-cheek.
Well, someone is buying all those V7s and V85s. Where are they congregating, if at all?
I saw a lot of younger riders at a recent Ducati event. Look, it's diagnostic. We don't have to like it, but it is.
I don't actually care one way or the other, though I kinda identify more with the group that doesn't really dig these events.There were more at the Ducati event, great, so analyze the difference.* What's different about the event - JUST BRAND or are there other differences?* What's the difference between brands - not just product, but sales figures, especially in area of event.* Any other factors we are forgetting?!?I guess I'm saying it's way too easy to have observational bias in something like this and that we've got an N = 1 in this observation.That's all.
Don’t you think maybe Ducati draws more of the younger crowd that MG does? Every time I go to the Dragons Tail I see several younger guys dressed in leathers, and I don’t mean the Brando style leather, on the Ducati but I’ve never seen anyone but older guys, like me, on a Moto Guzzi. In fact I’ve never seen a young person on a Guzzi of any style. Why might that be?
Join the various MG Facebook pages out there. Lots of folks who don’t fit in the older, white, American (or Aussie) dude demographic are buying Guzzis......and asking wonderfully cute questions like:“Look at my bike, I just mod’ed it with a Givi rack”... and...“Check out my bike, it’s now a scrambler because I put the MG-approved Arrow exhaust on”... and possibly the cutest of them all...“Should I keep the Racer’s seat cowl on? TELL ME WHAT TO DO!”Adorable.
“Should I keep the Racer’s seat cowl on? TELL ME WHAT TO DO!”Adorable.
Re the bit about the various factors at play: yes. That's exactly my point.Ducati is a small make but has a decent range of attractive options for various kinds of riding. Guzzi has the smallblock in standard and adventure flavours. It isn't giving people anything to aspire to after that. Other brands are bringing young riders in with machines that are attractive to them (Guzzi isn't failing at this) *and converting them into enthusiasts* (Guzzi *is* failing at this, or that's what it looks like to me, in my part of the world; YMMV). Maybe September will change that!
Yes, Ducati is small. Yamaha makes hundreds of thousands of bikes a year in India alone. Guzzi is tiny,
Join the various MG Facebook pages out there. Lots of folks who don’t fit the ‘older, white, American (or Aussie) dude’ demographic are buying Guzzis......and asking wonderfully cute questions like:“Look at my bike, I just mod’ed it with a Givi rack”... and...“Check out my bike, it’s now a scrambler because I put the MG-approved Arrow exhaust on”... and possibly the cutest of them all...“Should I keep the Racer’s seat cowl on? TELL ME WHAT TO DO!”Adorable.
I think there are more folks think this way than the brain trust of Piaggio may realize.
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