Them and us

[Tom H]

Huzo,

I read your replies and enjoyed them They made sense to me.

Tom

[Kev m]

Peter , even I had a hard time following , must be the time difference , or that one of us is upside down in relation to the other , or the side effects of allergy meds , or ...

 Dusty

Then let me translate, he said:

"When you point your finger cause your plan fell through you got 3 more fingers pointing back at you"


Or stated another way the OP and plenty of us are fooling ourselves if we don't believe we do it too.

[Bill Hagan]

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I'd like to think that it parallels the observations by Lannis, although unlike him, I tend to follow the principle. "Why use ten words when one hundred will do", it would work with an Aussie audience, (I hope !)

Had no idea you were a barrister.   

Bill

[oldbike54]

Then let me translate, he said:

"When you point your finger cause your plan fell through you got 3 more fingers pointing back at you"


Or stated another way the OP and plenty of us are fooling ourselves if we don't believe we do it too.

 Sure Kev , sure . What are we all doing now ?

 Dusty

[Kev m]

Sure Kev , sure . What are we all doing now ?

 Dusty

The same thing.

[oldbike54]

The same thing.

 Yeah , OK , although that still doesn't answer the question  What are WE all doing?

 Dusty

[Kev m]

Yeah , OK , although that still doesn't answer the question  What are WE all doing?

 Dusty

Peacocking and seeking validation whether we know it/admit it or not.

[RANDM]

Don't let 'em get ya down Huzo.

Maurie

[Lannis]

I've been thinking about getting a Boba Fett helmet.





Do you think that the Alliance folks will think less of me, or hate me as an Imperial stooge?   I really like it, and it's pre-knocked-around, so it would go great with my skinny jeans with holes in them, but I'm just not sure.

What does the list think ... ?

Lannis

[oldbike54]

Peacocking and seeking validation whether we know it/admit it or not.

 Never thought red suspenders and work boots as a form of peacocking , but OK 

 Dusty

[Huzo]

Then let me translate, he said:

"When you point your finger cause your plan fell through you got 3 more fingers pointing back at you"


Or stated another way the OP and plenty of us are fooling ourselves if we don't believe we do it too.

Good old solid rock. Nothin' wrong with MK.

[Kev m]

Never thought red suspenders and work boots as a form of peacocking , but OK 

 Dusty

Then you completely misunderstand the term and Huzos rather on point elaboration.

Red suspenders are their own form of peacocking.

[Huzo]

Had no idea you were a barrister.   

Bill

That was a really good guess, have we met ??? But the spelling's slightly wrong, it's spelled barista.

[Huzo]

Don't let 'em get ya down Huzo.

Maurie

Jeez no. I love this stuff, the more I'm interrogated, the better I like it !!!

[Huzo]

Never thought red suspenders and work boots as a form of peacocking , but OK 

 Dusty

What I'm getting at Dusty, is that everything we do is a manifestation of the way we want the world to view us.

[oldbike54]

What I'm getting at Dusty, is that everything we do is a manifestation of the way we want the world to view us.

 Dog , I REALLY don't want to know what the world thinks of me . Just keep that to yourself if you know please 

 Dusty

[Huzo]

Dog , I REALLY don't want to know what the world thinks of me . Just keep that to yourself if you know please 

 Dusty

Yeah fair enough Dusty, but ultimately it's what YOU think of you that matters. (But you knew that already)

[oldbike54]

Yeah fair enough Dusty, but ultimately it's what YOU think of you that matters. (But you knew that already)

 One thing for certain , those two perspectives don't gibe with each other ...

 Dusty

[Kev m]

One thing for certain , those two perspectives don't gibe with each other ...

 Dusty

They coexist perfectly well. The important thing is what you think of yourself, but no matter how stubbornly independent we claim to be there is always a part of us who gives a crap about what someone else thinks too, even if that's not particularly important it's still there in our genetic coding and the simple environment of being raised from a child.

[Penderic]

Public Service Notice.

Of course fashionable attire while riding your Moto Guzzi is not mandatory, but it is much appreciated by your brand mates. 

[Lannis]

They coexist perfectly well. The important thing is what you think of yourself, but no matter how stubbornly independent we claim to be there is always a part of us who gives a crap about what someone else thinks too, even if that's not particularly important it's still there in our genetic coding and the simple environment of being raised from a child.

Yep.   The clothes we wear, the vehicles we ride/drive, the things we say, the image we try to present to the world, and ESPECIALLY the things we post in places like Wild Guzzi are ALL indications that we give a crap about what other people think.   

And the people that protest the hardest that "they don't care what the world thinks" are often the ones that are TRYING the hardest to present an image that they want the world to see, and are often the ones most concerned with that image.

I'm in there somewhere, not sure where.   Like everyone else, I view the world through my OWN lens, not theirs.

Lannis

[RANDM]

I almost agree with that - it is normal to gravitate to some form of
group/tribe validation but it's not so for everyone. People break out and try
something new occasionally even if they normally like people validating
their exhistance and there are those who's instinct is to not be part
Of the herd - that's where originality lives.

Easier on your own though, once you become a family man your
Almost forced to conform for the sake of your kids.

Maurie.

[oldbike54]

 I've shown up at Guzzi rallies on an airhead beemer , and airhead beemer rallies on a Guzzi . Does that count ?

 Dusty

[Kev m]

I've shown up at Guzzi rallies on an airhead beemer , and airhead beemer rallies on a Guzzi . Does that count ?

 Dusty

Yup

[oldbike54]

 One time , one time , one time I like showed up at a HOG rally on an R100 RT , one of the white ones that look like a cop bike . Like , it was really funny , like , ya know , like some of those HD riders moved away from me , cuz like , well , I think some of them had like warrants 

 Dusty

[drw916]

I go through bikes faster than riding gear, so I gave up trying to match a long time age.

[RANDM]

You're just weird Dusty. But it's OK we "understand".   

Maurie.

[oldbike54]

You're just weird Dusty. But it's OK we "understand".   

Maurie.

 Why thank you Maurie 

 Dusty

[Muzz]

We just care what color the beer is...and whether we can find our boots the next morning! 

And would you like Steel Cut Oats with your beer sir?

And how would you like them?