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Title: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: dxhall on January 18, 2022, 09:53:49 PM
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Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 18, 2022, 10:20:49 PM
That will make a good Bday present for my little brother who has everything else
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: nc43bsa on January 18, 2022, 10:33:04 PM
Ya ever hit your thumb with a 24 OZ framer  :shocked:

 Dusty

I have to use both hands to pick up a 24 oz Bud, so I don't think I could ever hit my thumb with a 24 oz framer.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Huzo on January 18, 2022, 11:12:50 PM
There are a few guys here that I wouldn’t say that to.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: John Croucher on January 18, 2022, 11:33:13 PM
I have 5 Brothers that have 5 friends each. We have scars, not tattoos.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: aklawok on January 18, 2022, 11:44:24 PM
 Wow! I have one of these in my tool box! thought it was for vac. line removing! :violent1:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: ridingron on January 19, 2022, 12:48:52 AM
I have fat fingers. For little short nails, I use a pair of needle nose pliers. Why would I buy and carry plastic pliers that probably couldn't be used for much more. My brothers were both carpenters. One's statement was if you hit a nail more than twice, you needed more practice and to buy your own nails.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Murray on January 19, 2022, 03:48:55 AM
It's going to be a looooonnnng couple of months till the thaw in this place me thinks.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Johncolleary on January 19, 2022, 04:45:55 AM
What happens when you hit that plastic with a hammer?
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Stretch on January 19, 2022, 06:39:33 AM
Is there now a helmet law in order to use a hammer, too?! :shocked:  :huh:

                                                                     -Stretch
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Iron Cross Junction on January 19, 2022, 06:45:04 AM
Ya ever hit your thumb with a 24 OZ framer  :shocked:

 Dusty

 :thumb:

I just marked on my calendar that I agreed with Dusty.   :grin:

Bill
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Scout63 on January 19, 2022, 06:46:04 AM
I could use that to remove spiders from the bedroom.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: larrys on January 19, 2022, 07:00:02 AM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074V4CS7R/ref=pe_27542510_620992870_em_1p_2_lm

Yes, the one with the crosshatched meat tenderizer head.
Larry
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: twowheeladdict on January 19, 2022, 07:07:55 AM
 :coffee:  Screw it, glue it, or nail gun.   Probably been 20 years since I drove a nail.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: yogidozer on January 19, 2022, 07:08:13 AM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074V4CS7R/ref=pe_27542510_620992870_em_1p_2_lm
What if someone had physical issues, or no experience and needed this, would you call them wimps?
Wimps are those who insult others online
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: PeteS on January 19, 2022, 07:49:17 AM
I guess they have been wimps since 1892. Anyone else a fan of American Restoration?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193856246089

Pete
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Loop Tonti EV on January 19, 2022, 08:04:30 AM
What if someone had physical issues, or no experience and needed this, would you call them wimps?
Wimps are those who insult others online
This
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: JJ on January 19, 2022, 08:13:25 AM
Ya ever hit your thumb with a 24 OZ framer  :shocked:

 Dusty

Yes I have, actually...and I still have my 24-ounce ESTWING hammer from when I was framing houses back in NY 1982.... (I was MUCH younger then!!)  :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: :laugh: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: John Ulrich on January 19, 2022, 08:19:07 AM
Ya ever hit your thumb with a 24 OZ framer  :shocked:

Yes, building pole barns!  Those milled face Estwings deliver hurt.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: cliffrod on January 19, 2022, 08:21:34 AM
My grandfather's words that were hammered into my head as a young boy-


(https://i.ibb.co/WWqP6tV/WIN-20220119-08-36-11-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WWqP6tV)


The whole point is to not hit your hands or to miss and hit the work, but the granite still devours your body.  Years later, during my stonecarving apprenticeship, we (the carvers & sculptors) were asked to contribute to a invitation-only art show about the often-overlooked art of our craft.  So I used some of the worn out but very cool jersey & duct tape carving gloves that I had saved, along with used granite crate lumber & banding, to put my grandfather's words in better context for outsiders. It was the only work in the show produced in the negative and a big hit-


(https://i.ibb.co/qjMXnMP/WIN-20220119-08-36-47-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qjMXnMP)



(https://i.ibb.co/kmHFsDb/WIN-20220119-08-37-07-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kmHFsDb)


fwiw, I like my 6lb hammer best.  an 8lb head on a short handle cuts great, but the handles can't handle the heavy head.

Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Cam3512 on January 19, 2022, 08:37:57 AM
And this….


(https://i.ibb.co/ZHnC6JN/F98759-DE-EC3-E-45-E1-98-F1-7-C8-BC2806509.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZHnC6JN)
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Moparnut72 on January 19, 2022, 09:18:36 AM
I was an exterior trim carpenter for close to 20 years.  I used a 22oz framing hammer with waffles ground off. I hit my index finger so many times my nail was misshapen. It took years for it to return to normal after I quit that line of work. I was one of the first to use a pneumatic nailer. It took some modification to work on trim, this was before manufacturers came out with nailers made specifically for that purpose. I'm glad I got out of that, doing it year around in Denver took it's toll.
kk
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: twowings on January 19, 2022, 10:58:33 AM
If pain and disfiguring injury are some kind of litmus test of manhood, why not use the hammer on the skull and remove all doubt?
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: LowRyter on January 19, 2022, 12:25:51 PM
It seems to have a purpose.  Particularly useful for slants and odd angles.  Yes, I've busted my thumb and fingers.  Heck, I almost smashed Dusty's hand in a tailgate. 

One thing I can tell ya, as you get older those aches and pains come more often.  Recently, I had some chronic pain in my thumb and around the heel of my hand.  Many of the injuries are because of wrote repetition.  And unlike exercise, doing more of it, only makes it worse.  The therapist was clear that working your hands (and other joints, tendons and muscles) when you could use an opener or grip would save you trouble later and not make you stronger for your effort.  The PT has worked for me, I'm 90% better, it took abut 6 months.   BTW- it's my third bout of PT for different body parts.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Joliet Jim on January 19, 2022, 01:22:38 PM
I know I could use it instead of a longnose when trying to hammer in hiking stick medallion nails into the hardest wood that I made their sticks out of. Damn wood keeps bending all the nails. No telling how long it floated around in northern Lake Michigan.

So based on this thread is it wimp or smarter?
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: bacongrease on January 19, 2022, 02:14:01 PM
 I want one.  I had a 100 yr old house, full dimension lumber you couldn't drive a nail into.   :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: bacongrease on January 19, 2022, 02:15:06 PM


BTw..look at the skinny girl fingers boys have these days.    :huh:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: OldMojo on January 19, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
I could use that to remove spiders from the bedroom.

I cannot allow this hilarious response to go unacknowledged

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Tom on January 19, 2022, 04:08:15 PM
Locking pliers work for me.  Have them in different sizes too and shapes but of course their use is when it's needed.   :boozing:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 19, 2022, 06:53:18 PM
And just like that we know who's who................  :cool:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: twowheeladdict on January 19, 2022, 06:55:01 PM
And just like that we know who's who................  :cool:

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Tom on January 19, 2022, 07:06:10 PM
"What if someone had physical issues, or no experience and needed this, would you call them wimps?
Wimps are those who insult others online"

Paraphrasing Yogidozer.   :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: rschrum on January 19, 2022, 08:49:21 PM
Someone used the W word, and it offended me.
Bet that's one that whines to the moderators.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: AH Fan on January 19, 2022, 09:30:54 PM
I have 5 Brothers that have 5 friends each. We have scars, not tattoos.


Good one....... :thumb:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: blackcat on January 20, 2022, 07:05:27 AM
I have framing nailers, finish nailers and brad nailers for this kind of work along with multiple framing and finish hammers which I rarely use but for someone who doesn’t have most of these automatic tools I can see why they’d like this nail device. And it’s cheap which could easily attract the typical Guzzi owner.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: 9fingers on January 20, 2022, 07:55:35 AM
And this….


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HAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Tom on January 20, 2022, 02:32:34 PM
Someone used the W word, and it offended me.
Bet that's one that whines to the moderators.

Y'ep. 
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: travelingbyguzzi on January 20, 2022, 02:50:10 PM
I have 5 Brothers that have 5 friends each. We have scars, not tattoos.

Ding! Ding! Ding!  You nailed it!
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: PeteS on January 20, 2022, 05:44:54 PM
No one has commented on the 110 year old Pearsons Nailer. Way ahead of that cheesy nail holder..
Fast forward to 11:00 to see how it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zZnPOFqL4E

Pete
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Iron Cross Junction on January 21, 2022, 05:33:57 AM
Well -- another "W" word there  :grin: -- everyone seems to have had a fine two-pages time giving the OP a blanket party.  Heck, I even joined in at the top.  But, suspect he's feels badly enough by now without anyone else pounding on him or shouting for a rope and looking for a tree.    :undecided:

That said, whatever his original example, I wonder if his point has any merit.

True enough, there are millions of men doing difficult and dangerous work in uniform, hard hats, etc., after etc. 

But, overall -- think of the millions (and millions) more out there -- might he have a point?  Or not?

I'm getting ready to get into our packed and loaded car and, in a few minutes, drive up to Erie with Kathi on another eldercare run to look in on her dad.  If I can make it down the ice-packed driveway hill and get to the main road.  But, if I slide into one of the ditches on both sides, I'll quickly be a wimp and call for a tow ... to the gate.   :wink:

Best,

Bill

Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Redrider on January 21, 2022, 07:13:28 AM
Using a tool to make the job easier, faster, less painful has been the norm since Ugg made the first wheel.
Turning Men into wimps is a Woman's job.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: twowheeladdict on January 21, 2022, 07:23:15 AM
Well -- another "W" word there  :grin: -- everyone seems to have had a fine two-pages time giving the OP a blanket party.  Heck, I even joined in at the top.  But, suspect he's feels badly enough by now without anyone else pounding on him or shouting for a rope and looking for a tree.    :undecided:

That said, whatever his original example, I wonder if his point has any merit.

True enough, there are millions of men doing difficult and dangerous work in uniform, hard hats, etc., after etc. 

But, overall -- think of the millions (and millions) more out there -- might he have a point?  Or not?

I'm getting ready to get into our packed and loaded car and, in a few minutes, drive up to Erie with Kathi on another eldercare run to look in on her dad.  If I can make it down the ice-packed driveway hill and get to the main road.  But, if I slide into one of the ditches on both sides, I'll quickly be a wimp and call for a tow ... to the gate.   :wink:

Best,

Bill

Y'all don't carry tow strap and come along tool as part of your winter kit?  :grin:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: lucian on January 21, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
After 41 years of being a builder / cabinet maker/ arborists and tin knocker , I feel obligated to respond.  In those years I have   smashed fingers and thumbs, stitched up a few deep slices myself , trimmed digits with power equipment, and been bit by a chainsaw while seventy five feet up a tree. I  have fallen  off roofs and staging , and had rusty nails in both feet .  Fortunately , in time all these thing healed well and I'm sure more will lie ahead. Reading this over it may sound like I have been careless or just stupid. I can assure you that is not the case. Sure ,in hindsight some of the mishaps  maybe could have been prevented, but they weren't and in the trades these things happen to the best of them, even with the very best safety practices. Stuff happens, you learn and try not to repeat the same mistakes. And then it happens, despite your best efforts.  When you smash your thumb with a framing hammer and have to drill a hole thru your thumbnail to relieve the pressure, it's usually a long time, if ever, it happens again. Pain is a wonderful teacher.
      Men are men and wimps are wimps, if you can't take the heat, stay the hell out of the kitchen!
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: slowmover on January 21, 2022, 09:42:00 AM
I agree with the OP. My 34 year old son in law never changed a tire before and was amazed I could do it for him and saved him a repair bill. I told him if he ever tried it himself take off those skinny jeans first.He paid 40$ to replace a taillight. Should have seen his face when I asked if he wanted to go ice fishing with me.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: MotoGuzzi750 on January 21, 2022, 09:47:30 AM
I have 5 Brothers that have 5 friends each. We have scars, not tattoos.

Way to go !

I have two brothers, one with 10-12 friends and another with few. Just saying, since I liked your comment.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: MotoGuzzi750 on January 21, 2022, 09:51:25 AM
Is there now a helmet law in order to use a hammer, too?! :shocked:  :huh:

                                                                     -Stretch

Such a law is very much needed, and must be signed by the President at the high priority imo. ( -Sarcasm of course )
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: ScepticalScotty on January 21, 2022, 10:19:38 AM
Weakly Interacting Massive Particles?
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: sidecarnutz on January 21, 2022, 11:11:38 AM
I could use that to remove spiders from the bedroom.

Not me! That is what me extra long needle nose pliers are for! ;-)
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: twowheeladdict on January 21, 2022, 11:58:12 AM
Not me! That is what me extra long needle nose pliers are for! ;-)

I have a Russian Blue who takes care of any spiders that wander in. 
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Mr Pootle on January 21, 2022, 12:05:56 PM
It dates from when Americans started dressing up in armour to play a game not very different to rugby.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: dxhall on January 21, 2022, 03:02:40 PM
Some think it began with light beer and filtered cigarettes.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/mediaviewer/rm582963200/?ft0=name&fv0=nm0000007&ft1=image_type&fv1=still_frame
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: cliffrod on January 21, 2022, 06:14:44 PM
Some think it began with light beer and filtered cigarettes.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/mediaviewer/rm582963200/?ft0=name&fv0=nm0000007&ft1=image_type&fv1=still_frame

Too funny.

Many years ago with Pending ex-Wife #1, waiting at her divorce lawyer's office by I'm still completely smitten.  She's out of her standard Marlboro Lights (.....) so asks me if I have a cigarette. Thinking a gesture of kindness & absolute generosity might somehow someway save the marriage & even though I'm really broke, I give her my last real cigarette- an unfiltered Lucky Strike (L.S.M.F.T.) .  She lights it up, takes one little puff, says "OMG- that tastes like crap!  How do you smoke those things?!?" and crushes it out.

Needless to say, the marriage was not saved.
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Joliet Jim on January 21, 2022, 06:27:45 PM
It dates from when Americans started dressing up in armour to play a game not very different to rugby.

What he said, and we became incredibly bad at math with electronic scoring in bowling and darts. Sad sad

Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: lucian on January 21, 2022, 06:28:39 PM
Too funny.

Many years ago with Pending ex-Wife #1, waiting at her divorce lawyer's office by I'm still completely smitten.  She's out of her standard Marlboro Lights (.....) so asks me if I have a cigarette. Thinking a gesture of kindness & absolute generosity might somehow someway save the marriage & even though I'm really broke, I give her my last real cigarette- an unfiltered Lucky Strike (L.S.M.F.T.) .  She lights it up, takes one little puff, says "OMG- that tastes like crap!  How do you smoke those things?!?" and crushes it out.

Needless to say, the marriage was not saved.

Unlucky strike !  What will be will be!
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 21, 2022, 06:46:19 PM
My youngest daughter (28) announced a few years ago "I'm done dating girls with beards" She was tired of guys who couldn't check or change their oil, tires, do a tune up, swing a hammer, etc etc etc.  Suffice it to say she has had MANY first dates.... lol
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: slowmover on January 21, 2022, 08:01:46 PM
And what’s with the man buns on top of the head?
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Tom on January 21, 2022, 08:05:31 PM
They want long hair but they want short hair.   :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: larrys on January 23, 2022, 08:56:44 AM
My son-in-law is developing some talent with the wood shop tools that I gifted him with, under my daughter's tutelage... Getting better with wrenches, too, with the same teacher.
Larry
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Iron Cross Junction on January 23, 2022, 10:52:12 AM
Y'all don't carry tow strap and come along tool as part of your winter kit?  :grin:

Hmmmmm.

And here I thought I had enough.  My two milk crates of "stuff" make Kathi roll her eyes as is, but you make a good point.   :bow:

Bill
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: LowRyter on January 23, 2022, 02:16:15 PM
Too funny.

Many years ago with Pending ex-Wife #1, waiting at her divorce lawyer's office by I'm still completely smitten.  She's out of her standard Marlboro Lights (.....) so asks me if I have a cigarette. Thinking a gesture of kindness & absolute generosity might somehow someway save the marriage & even though I'm really broke, I give her my last real cigarette- an unfiltered Lucky Strike (L.S.M.F.T.) .  She lights it up, takes one little puff, says "OMG- that tastes like crap!  How do you smoke those things?!?" and crushes it out.

Needless to say, the marriage was not saved.
:boozing:
Title: Re: Why American men are becoming wimps
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 23, 2022, 02:41:47 PM
We should also consider the infusion of SOY into the food chain.....  :evil: