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Well, if no one else can fix it, he'll have to do it himself.
Well further update. Seems to be a sensor. The tech is Not into today but the counter person says the problem has been identified and the part will be ordered soon. He is just not sure what sensor the tech mentioned.
I don't have a wiring diagram. Does this bike have a "bank angle" sensor (tipover sensor)?...
Can you get us the part number for this sensor?
What dealer in what city?[/quote. I’m not happy with my experience with this dealer as when I call asking questions they seem put out. They haven’t called back any time they told me they would. Is it ok to post who they are. In one hand I appreciate that found the problem but I think the customer service is lacking.
I’m trying to be patient but must admit I’m pretty aggravated with the dealer’s lack of communication. They tell me they will call update and never call. I usually call the day after they are supposed to call. I do not wish to specifically hate on anybody but I’m not happy. I wish I had the time to get it Austin but it was between that and leaving it in a public parking lot for too long. Getting it towed was like pulling teeth this time of year. If the sensor fixes it great if it doesn’t I’m headed to Austin.
Dirk: Too many of the greatest generation are gone. They once set the tone for civility in relationships with one another.
You're either dealing with a completely incompetent dealer/staff or you are getting a very conscious run around.A parts guy is gonna know the proper name and description for the part they've been asked to order by the tech.What pray tell is a "fuel sensor"?There's a fuel level sensor, but that would only effect the low fuel light circuit.Someone might call the other sensors generally "fuel system sensors" or "EFI sensors" but that's almost a useless description cause it's a category not an actual single part.No other sensors that affect EFI operation tend to have the word "fuel" in them.There are things like crankshaft position or camshaft position sensors (I believe Guzzi only used the former).There are things like throttle position sensor, intake air temperature, air pressure, cylinder head or engine temperature sensor.Like I said earlier MOST of these sensors on the smallblock are integrated into the throttle body/ECU and aren't separately replaceable.Anyway, you're either talking to a moron or they are treating you like one.Sorry to be indelicate.
. Not indelicate at all. I feel I have gotten the run around as the service desk never picks up my calls or returns my messages. I explained I had a thread going and people were curious as to what part and what is going on. But to talk to them I call the sales department and they transfer me over to service at which point they tell me the tech isn’t there. I hope they are just treating me as a moron and know how to fix this . The unit being one unit makes sense but I don’t know much about the electronic side.
What is the reason you don’t identify the dealer you’re working with?
If anyone is interested in the MIU G3 looks like and does (ECU, throttle body, etc.), there is some good info here:https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.guzzitek.org/documents/injection/ECU_MIU-G3_Training.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiV1_XNsuf0AhU3GTQIHYUuCf4QFnoECAIQAg&usg=AOvVaw1JMaG9Br6_xlDrZPm5KnwuCheers,Shaun
well thank you for posting that manual regarding the electronics. My favorite part :"As a result, the functionality of these devices can only be tested with the diagnostic software. The unit is contained in a sealed casing. In the event ofmalfunction of any of the internal devices, the entire unit mustbe replaced."I know this was mentioned a few times. Does not seem like a bad system but I dont like the integrated unit. If this craps out after warranty I might be tempted to do something crazy like carbs. Hopefully wont come to that and I dont know if thats feasible. Just to be clear the dealer I took this to is not MPH and I would like to state I have not had any dealings with MPH but I what I heard is positive and that I know they are always busy. Im glad I bought the bike from AF1 but Im hoping this sorts this out and I dont see this Houston dealer lasting long.
A lot of people have that reaction to technology, which is funny, because cars for instance are so much more heavily reliant on it these days with a dozen separate computer modules all networked and tons of components that are integrated and only replaceable as a unit. And guess what? Most last for hundreds of thousands of miles and decades without failure. Sure some will happen, that's life.If you drop your phone (and don't have insurance) or tablet or laptop you could be out as much as the unit in question.Ride more, worry less. ... at least once they fix it. Which they or someone will.On the diagnostics, I'm assuming GuzziDiag (free shareware) could also tap into it for error codes and some live data collection to see what's wrong.But scan tools aren't everything and a tech needs to also think through a problem. A significant number of "electrical" malfunctions are actually mechanical in nature - a physically damaged component that isn't acting properly but the scan tool doesn't just name it, it names the system that is affected.As for retrofitting carbs, that sorta idea will get support from the luddites who are scared of or don't understand the aforementioned technology but it's a bad idea on so many levels. Not the least of which for someone who is a daily rider, as when straightened out the EFI bike will start and run easier and require less attention its entire life. Poop happens to everything once in a while. Once this is sorted you'll be good to go.PS MPH is/was once very loved here. They are good people who Piaggio screwed to give another dealer a franchise. I'm not even sure if the guy you're talking to is the same one for whom Piaggio screwed them, might be, or he might have already failed and this is another. But for future reference, MPH is definitely a good resource. Of course, I have no idea if they have any official relationship with Piaggio NA anymore so I don't know if they could do warranty work per se, still it's good to be aware of them if you're in their area.Good luck!