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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: T4halo on May 08, 2019, 08:45:34 PM
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which of these bags do you guys prefer on a loop frame? I’m looking for a different set of bags for my Ambassador and these appear to be the bags of choice.
T4
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The Dan Brown bags with the rounded top look the best IMO. Second goes to Wixoms which flow perfectly with the lines of a loopframe. I'd rank the regular DB bags last, but that's just me.
I looked at google images for months before deciding the route I wanted to go.
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Where would you get a set of DB bags?
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I have a local guy with a set of each. But, he is not cheap
Tony
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I have a local guy with a set of each. But, he is not cheap
Tony
does he have any to fit a Tonti frame?
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There are not answers to some questions.
IMHO the Wixoms fit the loop frame perfectly and they don't leak. I used them for many years.
The DB's are BIG and hold a ton. I've had them on a number of Cal 11's and liked them equal to the Wixoms.
Enie, meeniie, minie moe.....
Tex
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does he have any to fit a Tonti frame?
I’ll check.
T
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I have some Dan Browns I'd like to part with. Don't know what the mounts are for though. Shipping would be a killer I'm sure but they are just sitting in a shed.
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I have some Dan Browns I'd like to part with. Don't know what the mounts are for though. Shipping would be a killer I'm sure but they are just sitting in a shed.
what's your location?
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I have a local guy with a set of each. But, he is not cheap
Tony
He may be that guy in southern MI who used to be a rep...I had his contact info somewhere....he runs an ad on CL occasionally....I actually saw a stack of DB bags in one of his CL photos, he had a LOT of pairs, I recall his price then was $400/pair.
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Wixoms look the coolest of all because of their lines (this was mentioned before), but DBs are a close second IMO, and in 1st place for storage and practicality.
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Lots of talk but not a single photo.. c'mon.
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What bags are these?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-k7SPKvC/0/d61d2803/M/IMG_1017-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-k7SPKvC/A)
and these?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-kQPtdhX/0/f370afde/S/IMG_0439-S.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-kQPtdhX/A)
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(https://i.ibb.co/V9R5x1N/DSCN0478.jpg) (https://ibb.co/V9R5x1N)
my 73 eldo with DB bags
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(https://i.ibb.co/6sHWmNV/DSCN0488.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6sHWmNV)
rear view....Do those bags make my butt look fat? :laugh:
Rick.
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(https://i.ibb.co/SfQ1c9v/DSCN0514.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SfQ1c9v)
I "smoothed" them out by removing the aluminum strip covering the two halves, and re fiberglassed them from the inside to re inforce the mounting holes, that were all "wallered" out. I made my own mounts , out of flat steel strap,from pictures on Greg Benders site, and they mount up real solid. The lights are LED big truck clearance lamps.
I also have a pair of Wixoms, that I switch around every couple of years to change the look of the bike, or put on the DBs when I need to carry a big load. They are the best for serious hauling. The Wixoms are much easier to remove for cleaning the bike or mainteneance.
Rick.
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What bags are these?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-k7SPKvC/0/d61d2803/M/IMG_1017-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-k7SPKvC/A)
and these?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-kQPtdhX/0/f370afde/S/IMG_0439-S.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-kQPtdhX/A)
Top: Wixoms. Bottom: possibly Calafia.
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(https://i.ibb.co/WW3pThp/MOTOGUZZIPICTURES308.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WW3pThp)
snow white and the huntsman second movie (https://movieplotholes.com/snow-white-and-the-huntsman)
my bike with the wixom bags.
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(https://i.ibb.co/1vJTtf4/MOTOGUZZIPICTURES306.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1vJTtf4)
The Wixoms mount up higher, away from the pipes, the DBs mount low, closer to the pipes. I like the looks of both, but the fiberglass seems to be better/thicker on the wixoms. The DBs usually need a bit of reinforcement /fiberglass work to make them right.
Rick.
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Rick, your Eldo with Buffalo fairing and DB bags looks perfect. Nice ride.
Tony
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Great Topic...
While many prefer the Wixom for the loopframes, I prefer the DBs...
- DB are really nicely shaped to take up all the space available around the rear shocks, they go as close as possible to the wheel, totally looks like a perfect custom job. Wixom do not and leave lots of extra room between wheel and bags...
- Yes gives the Loop a big ass, but well in proportion, makes it look super kool, more like a classic bagger style bike...
- Tons of space, you can fit a case of beer, extra fuel, open face helmet....
- Most have been poorly mounted, creating cracks and wears in the fiber glass around mounting holes, easily repaired. Then mount rubber grommets all around the mounting bolts with rubber washer sandwished between metal ones...
- Never leaks, once well rebuild
- Replacement hinges easily found, rear lights as well @ Napa, see Greg Bender site...
- Important is to have all the mounting brackets, the rear one that attaches to rear fender is the most important one to have, the others easy to reproduce or copy if missing one or another...
- Also to protect them, add the extended rear crash bars that usually came with them... If the bike goes down, nothing gets damaged, along with the front crash bars, it acts like a big swivel that rocks back and forth without damaging any of the body or motor parts
- the Bags Pops up on eBay every once in a while, in the $200-250 range... Usually ending in barns, not much people want them, saying they're ugly, quite to the contrary...
Ciao
Carlito
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^^^^^^^
Great post Carlito!!
T4
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(https://i.ibb.co/6sHWmNV/DSCN0488.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6sHWmNV)
rear view....Do those bags make my butt look fat? :laugh:
Rick.
Ummm Yes :evil:
Wixom:
(https://i.ibb.co/2jSvG1f/Guzzi-750-With-Bags-Night-DSCN0439.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jSvG1f)
As for the Wixom lights, I replaced them with a set of LED that fit right where the stock light goes. They look like they came with the bags. The new lights add running and brake lights.
(https://i.ibb.co/RbC2c3x/WP-20160630-20-16-09-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RbC2c3x)
Tom
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Top: Wixoms. Bottom: possibly Calafia.
Yes, bottom look like Calafia (Calafia Fats, to be more precise), I have a set on my Cal 2, but they do not have a key latch as shown in the photo. Mine have matching latched front/back, making the lids lift-off. The key on the side makes me think those are hinged on the wheel-side.
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I "smoothed" them out by removing the aluminum strip covering the two halves,
I have a set of DB bags for a Loop that also had the center strip removed and the seam smoothed over. Also had the holes for the tail lights smoothed over. I thought they might be reproductions (maybe they are?), but they are made the same as the originals, in 2 halves.
Since DBs for the Tontis are hard to find (I haven't seen any since the set on my Convert I sold), I would imagine a good fabricator could cut out the offending area on the left bag where it would hit the brake caliper, and re-glass it to close it up again.
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I like Wixoms best, but they are a bit on the small side. DBs that have been smoothed (bump on the back removed especially) look very nice, but unmodified I think they're rather bulbous and awkward looking.
My V700 is getting a pair of Pelican 1500 cases, just like my Convert's. Yes, I know they're big and boxy, totally lacking of style, but they're also 100% waterproof, crushproof and inexpensive used ($92 a pair shipped, bought on ebay). My mounts will allow them to be easily removed.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59093876_2037916246330496_5677702965788409856_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_eui2=AeH76-uFHJ5e0KKSiPAfiQGZukNWxD0NfGO4NcuaukX0NA-6mdZFKNO5YE1X_ddnCWR4PWctABEG_mJRkj-jEx7w7xH_zKFpQFgw_uC7eX_4Qw&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=56090d13990d4f5612dff40fe40426d0&oe=5D6F10E3)
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No accounting for taste!,..all in the eye of the beholder,...of big butts!
(https://i.ibb.co/v1sLgQz/DB-back-off.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v1sLgQz)
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What bags are these?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-k7SPKvC/0/d61d2803/M/IMG_1017-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-k7SPKvC/A)
Love that bike, bags & fairing! (Loose the trunk IMO)
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Rick, your Eldo with Buffalo fairing and DB bags looks perfect. Nice ride.
Tony
Thank you, Tony.
Rick.
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DB's are the ticket. Like Rick, I cut off the taillight and "smoothed" it over and took chrome body side moulding and stuck it over the center seam.
(https://i.ibb.co/WxmfHFn/IMGP3002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WxmfHFn)
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Got my Pelican cases mostly mounted up this evening.
(https://i.ibb.co/wR4tnt2/Eurovan-toasty-V700-luggage-003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wR4tnt2)
(https://i.ibb.co/WvDhfnb/Eurovan-toasty-V700-luggage-004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WvDhfnb)
(https://i.ibb.co/bPGnfT4/Eurovan-toasty-V700-luggage-008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bPGnfT4)
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I like those. Very strong and water tight. Everything I deployed with was carried in Pelican cases.
T4
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Looks good Charlie! Nice ,clean mounts you made. Do you have a bottom mount/support, or are they held just by the 2 top mounts?
Rick.
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Looks good Charlie! Nice ,clean mounts you made. Do you have a bottom mount/support, or are they held just by the 2 top mounts?
Rick.
Top mount is a length of MDS filled cast nylon bar slotted to fit down over 3/16" steel flat stock. There's a bottom bracket consisting of more 3/16" flat bent into an inverted "L", which attaches at the muffler/passenger peg tab of the frame and to the 'bag via a stud, washers and wingnut.
Upper bracket:
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60333189_2059799254142195_6443747843734765568_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_eui2=AeHt1gmeSBvbn9pkG-22mNZpfWXp_t_JIGzWLvY1dlP5xlpKuUhXPio47RcjY8cddBuJWT2YBthXuocOTSTkinH3cEQvP3j6eBAWH7gpjYz3cA&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=b1246938cbcdd2e8e6bba430947d69a7&oe=5D892FA9)
Slotted nylon bar bolts to the cases:
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60296420_2059799334142187_3239543035071037440_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_eui2=AeGtmUXW0Af6e8m4iIzgzo4_FDQMRQM5jQtRRoI3S5o8jBdsyi_cJAyCpfnQsOnI5iF3nuijc6x6pUBxuWutAh6Gy-9_AX4_P9y9mcrgT1uFDw&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=40201ff6b2f3235fb69bc2d2e3d36e59&oe=5D92EA2F)
Unfinished bottom mount:
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60362521_2059799750808812_816294449121329152_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeEdavjzjNxmNepTGZqzWc7JQQTVf9jxwgFawvozUVvnK_3lx0LvTsyRkG1jT1CVSxxxdMf6ZPgcb0yX1yF7JgJ-Q9nsMHRe-pVyTmXjd9tfZQ&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=ae7dfe5f1a134f0bc844a1eabff73238&oe=5D9D52D0)