2009 Griso Red-Glowing Silencer

[doctoriz]

Sorry Jon , I missed the oil and filter question. Any full synthetic 10 w 60 oil  will do. Most Nappa auto part stores will have Liquid moly available. I  usually mail order my filters from Seacoast sport cycles in N.H. They will ship you Silkolean 10 /60 also.  Great Guzzi dealer here in the north east. If you don't have a cup wrench for your filter they will  have one of those as well.  Cheers!

Lucian, if my math is correct 214 cu.in for the oil capacity listed in the workshop manual is 214 converts to 3.5L. So, if I buy a 4L container of 10W60 Silkolean, I should be good?

[lucian]

Hey Jon. You got it right .  I pre fill my filter with oil  always, and fill engine to halfway between the low and high marks on the dipstick. Bike needs to be straight upright and dipstick should be resting on the threads and not screwed in.  Don't fill to the top full mark as Guzzi's like to expel oil into the air box when over filled.

[Kiwi Dave]

3 litres is all I can fit in (to the half-way mark).

[pete roper]

Yeah, while I fill with a drum pump after the filter is filled the deep sump 1200's all seem to take about three litres to halfway up the stick. The shallow sump Griso's and 1400's seem to take a bit more which would seem counterintuitive but I think that's because there is less superstructure in the case.

[doctoriz]

Yeah, while I fill with a drum pump after the filter is filled the deep sump 1200's all seem to take about three litres to halfway up the stick. The shallow sump Griso's and 1400's seem to take a bit more which would seem counterintuitive but I think that's because there is less superstructure in the case.

Pete, Lucian, and the WildGoose Flock: what make/model number filter do you suggest?

[Chuck in Indiana]

These Oil Filters 
have 3/4"-16 threads, 
8 psi by-pass valve, 
anti-drain back valve. 
and are about 3" / 3.5" long 

Recommended filters in blue.Available filters includePurolator PL14476 / PL14477Mobil1 M1-102Mobil1 M1MC-131Mobil1 M1MC-132 (CHrome)Bosch 3330Walmart Supertech ST4967 / 4386AMSOil SMF 133/134/135Baldwin B33 / B37Fram PH4967Hastings Lh410 / LF 413HiFlo HF199K&N KN-170NAPA 1394Purolator ML16822WIX 51394 / 51396

Guzzi recommended and I used Bosch 3330 for a long time. They have recently changed, and have a sticker on them. I'd get that off before using. Many have reported using the Suptertech from Wally world. WIX makes good filters.
I no longer use the UFIs..

[Bulldog9]

Lots of choices for CARC oil filter alternatives.  Here is what I am tracking, though I have only used the Hiflo, Bosch and WIX.

Hiflofiltro HF551
Bosch# 3330 or 3400 (taller)
Purolator Pure One pl10241
FRAM PH3614 or  Fram PH6022 use Fram at own risk)
K&N HP-1002
WIX # 51215
NAPA Gold # 1215
Wix makes great filters and will fit. Napa gold is the same filter as Wix. I found that these filters are just a hair smaller diameter than the HiFlo or Guzzi. A folded piece of paper towel between filter and socket fills the gap perfectly to be spun off.

And in case this wasn't enough useless information,  check out this link. Been using this for years. https://www.oilfilter-crossreference.com/convert/BOSCH/3330

[usedtobefast]

An OEM oil filter is ~$15 ... I looked up one of these other suggestions and seemed to be around $8-$9 ... so we buy $1400 rear shocks and $1000 fork cartridge kits but can't spend an extra $7 at each oil change?     

My plan is to keep buying the AF1 kits ... factory recommended oil, OEM filter/washers/orings.  But I'm only doing 1 oil change a year so I figure that isn't too bad money wise for me.

[Chuck in Indiana]

An OEM oil filter is ~$15 ... I looked up one of these other suggestions and seemed to be around $8-$9 ... so we buy $1400 rear shocks and $1000 fork cartridge kits but can't spend an extra $7 at each oil change?     

My plan is to keep buying the AF1 kits ... factory recommended oil, OEM filter/washers/orings.  But I'm only doing 1 oil change a year so I figure that isn't too bad money wise for me.

It's *not* price related. It's UFI quality control related..

[Darren Williams]

It's *not* price related. It's UFI quality control related..

Bingo. And between my wife's bike and the ones I ride, I have to do 7 or 8 per year. It does start adding up.

[usedtobefast]

It's *not* price related. It's UFI quality control related..

So the OEM filters have issues?  (Being serious here, I don't know this area very well) Thanks

[Ncdan]

I simply call Curtis at Harpers Moto Guzzi and tell him to send me what I need to service my 1400. The kit includes the valve cover gaskets. No runs no leaks and No errors:)

[Chuck in Indiana]

 

So the OEM filters have issues?  (Being serious here, I don't know this area very well) Thanks

Yes. The documented issues are:
Leaking at the crimp between the can and base.
Gaskets either too thin or of the wrong material.
Paint coming off.

We've seen all of these on WG and the V11 forums. The original "Hose clamp" thing came from a spate of filters that came loose at Moto International. I'm pretty sure  they knew how to install a filter. In my mind, it was a bad batch that started the whole mess. I haven't used them for years, and won't. There are plenty of alternatives..

[doctoriz]

Thanks for all the info! It really helps!

Jon