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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2016, 03:35:13 AM »
Stealth job?

Looking forward to watching it take shape

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2016, 08:58:08 AM »
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2016, 12:27:12 PM »
Turin, you need to sort out your camera's focal / macro settings.

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2016, 10:13:40 PM »
Frames ready.


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Re: My new Lemans SE project
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2016, 10:22:26 PM »
Sweet!!  What paint did you use? and are you happy enough that you would use it again?

Looking forward to following along with the project.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2016, 10:47:16 PM »
Powder coat. I suck at painting.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2016, 11:09:58 PM »
I'm a fan of powdercoat too.

I should have been more specific - you mentioned paint on drivetrain. I assume you painted the engine, tranny, etc. That's what I was curious about.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2016, 11:26:54 PM »
Oh, rustoleum 2X.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2016, 07:29:41 AM »
If you get bored with the project, I'll take that engine  :azn:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2016, 08:56:46 AM »
Nice, thanks for posting

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2016, 02:51:25 PM »
Need I say I really like project threads?  :smiley:  :popcorn:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2016, 03:35:49 PM »
With the frame painted that color.  What are doing the body work in? and are you keeping the swallow tail look?  Looks good so far.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2016, 08:53:28 PM »
Swan tail.. check but solo seat only. Since it is an SE, the bodywork will be white with red accents.
Tom, did you ever hear this thing run back in the day?
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2016, 02:23:34 PM »
I have a '87 SE with 16" front wheel.  It has a Bub exhaust system on it.  Sounds pretty good. 

Biggest problem, I had was with the right accelerator pump.  The factory setting had it squirting too much gas.  I found this out by chance.  Took awhile to find this out.  Rebuilt the carbs 3 times.  Checked the complete ignition system 4 times.  I really wanted to punch Guido in the face.

The other problem, that has plagued this model is the triple trees.  Check for cracks.  Not sure why.  Maybe the metal used in them or Guido tried to save some pennies for the parts.  This is/was the problem that showed with the 16" wheel up front. IMO.  Anyone can correct.

I don't have the 16" handling problem that was with most others.  My '89 LeMans V has the 18" front wheel otherwise the same bike as the '87 LeMans IV SE.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2016, 02:53:36 PM »

The other problem, that has plagued this model is the triple trees.  Check for cracks.  Not sure why.  Maybe the metal used in them or Guido tried to save some pennies for the parts.  This is/was the problem that showed with the 16" wheel up front. IMO.  Anyone can correct.


First I've heard of this "plague". <shrug>
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2016, 05:49:28 PM »
The perceived problem that people have said with the SE was the 16" wheel.  Turns out the triple trees were the problem.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2016, 07:42:37 PM »
The only triple tree "issue" I've heard of was the '85 version vs. later ones. In '86 they changed the offset, increasing trail and slowing the steering a bit. The material changed too - from nicely cast aluminum to roughly cast steel/iron. Never heard of either cracking.

The later type was supplied as an "update" kit to anyone with an '85 that wanted it.

Edit: Guzziology agrees with the above and says that "Later ('86-on) bikes again had aluminum clamps but of the revised dimensions".   
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2016, 03:40:08 PM »
The only triple tree "issue" I've heard of was the '85 version vs. later ones. In '86 they changed the offset, increasing trail and slowing the steering a bit. The material changed too - from nicely cast aluminum to roughly cast steel/iron. Never heard of either cracking.

The later type was supplied as an "update" kit to anyone with an '85 that wanted it.

Edit: Guzziology agrees with the above and says that "Later ('86-on) bikes again had aluminum clamps but of the revised dimensions".

Maybe that's the "problem" for the 16" wheel and by the time it was corrected, the "bad handling" label got tied to the bike.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2016, 04:10:22 PM »
I got the triple trees covered.



Very nice! :thumb:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2016, 12:52:39 AM »








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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2016, 09:33:39 PM »
powder coated factory 16" & 18" wheels. She will have no problem stopping!




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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2016, 04:36:35 AM »
Good grief what size of rotors are these?   :grin:

I know the 16" wheel will make them appear even bigger, but when I look at my 320s on an 18" wheel they look miniscule compared with these

Can you get the caliper on and off without removing the rotor? Might be tight once lines are installed

Watching with interest........... .........nice work Turin

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2016, 08:42:29 AM »
 Is that the Dave's Cycle racer?
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2016, 10:43:20 AM »
This is  the Daves Cycle racebike.
 The rotors are NOS 300mm that were part of the old upgrade kit for the 18" wheel conversion. http://www.dropbears.com/s/sda/p62.htm
Calipers are Harrison billet 6 piston that I scored off of E-bay several years ago.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2016, 11:25:14 AM »
Dave Hull and I raced that bike in a four hour at phx int, in 1993. Pretty potent motor as I recall. Back then all 3 brakes were on the front master, with a chyrsler adjustable proportioning vavle for the rear.
I was never so sore, after riding that thins for a couple hours.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2016, 02:05:44 PM »
Dave, how cool is it that you raced this thing! I got it in pieces, and a lot is/was missing. I am putting back as much of the original pieces as possible (as raced). Tom Hull is adding a lot of his input into the build. He's going to build a 2-1 exhaust system.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2016, 04:37:57 PM »
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2016, 05:37:08 PM »
That SE was built by Lance Baker, who at the time worked for moto america, the importer, at that time.
the exhaust was a rennsprt 2-1-2, but dave made a2into 1 out of it. for ground clearance.
originally a battle of twins racer.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2016, 06:35:22 PM »
It's a small world, indeed, when you are fooling around with Guzzis.. :smiley: :boozing:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2016, 05:49:46 AM »
Thanks for the info Turin

Still cannot get over how large they look on the wheel

I've got 6 pots ISRs on my Magni 1000 & they are awesome, I love being able to haul off speed with light 2 fingered action, reckon those will be the same

Looking forward to seeing it going together

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