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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2016, 08:24:15 AM »
Good story RK.  :cool:
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2016, 09:44:51 AM »
  I read quite frequently about folks shipping a bike across the country for 500-700 bucks with one of the bike transport companies. Why doesn't it apply in this case? Seems a workable solution to the problem at hand....

  Edit: I see the other thread has addressed this issue with the same suggestion.

To get that price, you have to be willing to wait until they have a load going your way. It might be a month or more.
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2016, 07:59:19 PM »
Roadkill that is the best trip report I've read in a LONG time!  Good job. 

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2016, 09:14:52 PM »
Is that EV still hanging in there and going?
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2016, 12:34:54 AM »
Roadkill that is the best trip report I've read in a LONG time!  Good job.

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2016, 09:48:08 AM »
well GK what did you wind up doing?
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2016, 09:59:48 AM »
That's right.  You're not all in California paying $3 per gallon when lucky.

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Fuel has been under $2/gal here in flyover country for quite some time, now.

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2016, 11:28:19 AM »
well GK what did you wind up doing?

He has been up in Canada for a while in a rental car, so he doesn't spoil his vacation.
Later this week he will get back to the EV and let us know more. He said the spark plugs were black, but no "hard bits" stuck in them. So I don't think the motor is broken, just something simple like a bad TPS. Maybe a bad clutch, but I would think he would recognize that at the lever.

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2016, 11:33:39 AM »
In 1999, out in the middle of nowhere Utah, my Sport 1100 started acting like that.

Intermittently running on one cylinder below 4500 rpm.
 
I looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong, so nursed it into the dealer at Salt Lake City.

In a few minutes, the mechanic there discovered the left plug wire burned inside the plug cap.  I had not thought to remove the NGK plug cap and look at the end of the plug wire.

Anyway, he snipped about a quarter inch off that wire and screwed the plug cap back on.  The bike has been running fine on that wire ever since!

So yeah.  It's probably something simple.  Plug wire, TPS, side stand switch, etc...
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2016, 11:40:31 AM »
In 1999, out in the middle of nowhere Utah, my Sport 1100 started acting like that.

Intermittently running on one cylinder below 4500 rpm.
 
I looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong, so nursed it into the dealer at Salt Lake City.

In a few minutes, the mechanic there discovered the left plug wire burned inside the plug cap.  I had not thought to remove the NGK plug cap and look at the end of the plug wire.

Anyway, he snipped about a quarter inch off that wire and screwed the plug cap back on.  The bike has been running fine on that wire ever since!

So yeah.  It's probably something simple.  Plug wire, TPS, side stand switch, etc...
I once had similar problem. turned out to be plug wire. you could try cutting down the plug end an inch or so (if it's long enough) and re-seat the cap..

also could be a tank vent problem?
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2016, 07:09:56 PM »
Fuel prices mentioned above make me green with envy. Currently in NZ we are paying  $5.35 USD per us gallon at the pump!!! .... and I don't like it!
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2016, 02:13:50 PM »
You guys are treated like the EU tax wise.   :tongue:
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2016, 05:39:17 PM »
True. And it's something I would like to change.  You should see the price of tobacco too!

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2016, 06:08:50 PM »
Aren't manufactured goods taxed heavily too?
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2016, 06:31:33 PM »
True. And it's something I would like to change.  You should see the price of tobacco too!



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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2016, 06:37:42 PM »
Kiwis are too damn ornery!

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2016, 06:43:17 PM »
Aussies are.  Not Kiwi's.  :grin:  Ask Pete.  Oh......wait, he's a reject Brit.   :evil: :tongue: :grin:
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2016, 09:03:42 PM »
Just got back to Hartford. Got new Iridium plugs and put them in. The ones I took out didn't look too bad. The right one was a little darker than the left. Checked the plug wires, which didn't look bad to me. Took it out for a ride with my wife on the back.

It ran slightly better than before. After it warmed up, it started to hesitate again, at times very strongly. It did struggle a little when I got gas and restarted it, but it didn't die at least.

I think the plugs helped a little, but didn't solve the problem. I really believe it's the TPS. Going to ride it home, taking my time getting there. If it starts to have serious problems, I'll get it towed.
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2016, 09:33:41 PM »
That's hanging in there!  Perhaps someone in the area will ride sweep for you or give you some bases to touch on the way home.  I would, but it's just too darn inconvenient for me.   :boozing:

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2016, 02:34:07 AM »
Buy or borrow a cheap multimeter
Measure from plug cap to chassis, both sides should be similar about 8,000 ohms from memory, the point is they should be similar left to right.
Measure Voltage to chassis at the TPS it should increase smoothly from about 150 mV to jut over 4 V as you open the throttle

There are 3 wires to the TPS
One will have a steady 5 Volts on it
One will be 0 Volts or chassis
The third is the one of interest 150 mV** to over 4.5 Volts, I believe it goes to pin 30 of the P8 ECU and pin 11 of the 15M but you can access the wire
directly by making a nick in the insulation or poking it with a sewing pin.

** the 150 mV is with the butterfly fully closed, more like 400 - 450 mV at idle setting.

A Voltage test is really the only way, Ohms makes no sense since it's NOT a simple potentiometer as the schematics show
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2016, 07:44:26 AM »
Just got back to Hartford. Got new Iridium plugs and put them in. The ones I took out didn't look too bad. The right one was a little darker than the left. Checked the plug wires, which didn't look bad to me. Took it out for a ride with my wife on the back.

It ran slightly better than before. After it warmed up, it started to hesitate again, at times very strongly. It did struggle a little when I got gas and restarted it, but it didn't die at least.

I think the plugs helped a little, but didn't solve the problem. I really believe it's the TPS. Going to ride it home, taking my time getting there. If it starts to have serious problems, I'll get it towed.

I wonder if  the TPS has shifted position, or failed. Or something related to it like that temperature sensor switch that you have. Maybe it is rich, meaning, it will run worse when hot.
Keep an eye on the oil level. If the oil level goes UP, or gets thinned out by gasoline, it may be time to stop riding it until fixed.
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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2016, 07:45:38 AM »
With the hesitating occurring over various speeds and increases as the engine warms up somewhat, I would doubt that the TPS is the issue.  I would suspect one of the coils breaking down under load.  Of course, as others have have said, it could be a plug cap or the HV wire ends.  But not being there, its just a guess.  Any car shop that has an oscilloscope should be able to determine the problem if it is ignition related.   

Have a safe and a trouble free trip back home.

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Re: Help needed, Berwick, PA
« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2016, 07:54:50 AM »

.....All because my piece of shit motorcycle kept breaking down and stranding me.  So hang in there.  These things can work out even when they don't seem to be.  :)

Great story.  Its amazing things you can do and put up with when one is young and naive.

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