Lario rehab project begins. What we've learned..

[Chuck in Indiana]

That's what I'm talking about.. ;D Took it for a ride this morning, and besides looking better (to me) without the kickup on the windshield, there seems to be a little more air on my chest (good) and less on my face shield. (good, too.) Maybe Guzzi knew what they were doing? <shrug>

[kevdog3019]

I didn't suspect you'd like it. They have the same thing on the MRA windscreen for the V11lemon and the stock screen is mucho mucho better for calm air. Don't like those kick ups!
Kevin

[SED]

Great write-up Chuck!  My favorite on WildG.

Last year I used your description of drilling the pinion bearing oil passage in a smblock rear drive with great success.  Yesterday I stumbled across this post and have spent the last two evenings reading it all.  Your photos and narratives are very helpful - even for things I've already done.

You are a generous professional.  Thank you.

Shawn

[IceBlue]

Great thread Chuck. I'm exited about the startup. You did a great job. I haven't been able to follow you the last 14 days, since I was on vacation in China, and WG wouldn't let me access from China.

Now I never hope to hear about any valve issues  ;)
So far I have not had any drop on me or any other who use them.

Just took mine for another 50 mile spin today - purrs like a kitten.

Cheers

[Chuck in Indiana]

Great thread Chuck. I'm exited about the startup. You did a great job. I haven't been able to follow you the last 14 days, since I was on vacation in China, and WG wouldn't let me access from China.

Now I never hope to hear about any valve issues  ;)
So far I have not had any drop on me or any other who use them.

Just took mine for another 50 mile spin today - purrs like a kitten.

Cheers

I'd noticed that you had apparently dropped off the face of the earth.. ;D Can't have subversive stuff like old people talking about Guzzis getting the working man riled up, ya know. ;) So far, so good. I'll retorque the heads and check the valves again at the 500 mile oil and filter change. That's coming up shortly.. ;-T
edit:
The top ends sound like a bucket of hammers, but the Centauro did, too. I'll have to turn off my hearing aids when tuning.

[IceBlue]

The top ends sound like a bucket of hammers, but the Centauro did, too. I'll have to turn off my hearing aids when tuning.

 :o  What clearence did you set??

When hot, I can hardly hear mine, and i can still get a 0.05mm gauge blade in there...  (hope that's the right name for this tool in English)
...and I still have normal hearing  ~;   ;) ;) ...my wife disagree though  :D

[kevdog3019]

Just little faint "ticks" here on mine also.   ???  I got the hammer death blows on the Lemon.  :P
-Kevin

[IceBlue]

...factory settings are 0.1mm in and 0.13mm ex.
Shop manual recommends taking a look at rocker arm play, if these values are correctly set and excessive top end noise is still present.

See page 161 in the SB shop manual, Imola II - Monza II - Lario section.

Ciao
Brian

Not trying to raise your blod pressure og give you a heart attact  ;D :D ;)

[Chuck in Indiana]

...factory settings are 0.1mm in and 0.13mm ex.
Shop manual recommends taking a look at rocker arm play, if these values are correctly set and excessive top end noise is still present.

See page 161 in the SB shop manual, Imola II - Monza II - Lario section.

Ciao
Brian

Not trying to raise your blod pressure og give you a heart attact  ;D :D ;)

I set them at .004" and .005" per the manual. They're not any noisier than the Centauro.. still sounds like a bucket of hammers. ;D I won't need to worry about that much longer though. One of the listers just sent me a set of pea shooters.
Looking down the bore.. :o

To say they are a little raucous might be an understatement.. "valves, what valves?"
They sure are pretty, though. Headed off to get some oven cleaner...

[SteveAZ]

Fantastic bike, fantastic thread, fantastic work. Thank you for taking the time to document this great work you've done.  :bow ;-T

[mwrenn]

Those pipes do look good on there.  Did you notice the bike running lean at all?

[Chuck in Indiana]

Those pipes do look good on there.  Did you notice the bike running lean at all?

Uh, yeah...   I've been holding off on going through the carbs until I decided what mufflers to run. It was a little lean at WFO, now it's a lot lean.  ;D :BEER:

[Chuck in Indiana]

Ok, lets see if we can camouflage that rip in the seat. I'd already pulled the cover back and glued a dollar patch on the back side, so I don't expect it to get any worse. A kit from Permatex has several colors that you can mix and match and never in a million years get right,  ;D some glue, patch material, and high tech applicator iron.

There's also a spatula for applying the glue and colored material. Fill the tear with glue and let it sit for 4 hours. As far as I'm concerned, anything that requires solvent evaporation doesn't want to be hurried.

I took a single edge razor blade and *carefully* trimmed the high spots.
I've had On the Job training for this operation. When I was about 3 years old, I had a little iron that was heated by laying it on Mother's iron. I ironed the hankies, and anything else that was flat. ;D Actually, I had Dorcia come out to the Guzzi Garage and hold it on the Ancient Airlines fabric shrinking iron while I applied the color and feathered it out with the cheapie spatula

Here's what it looked like before ironing. There are 3 different grain texture release papers, none of which are remotely what you want..  ;D

While the colored material is still tacky, put the paper over it, and apply the iron, constantly rotating it and moving it over the repair for 2-3 minutes. Let it cool and carefully remove the paper.

Here's the finished repair. Probably a little better (although considerably more expensive) than a Magic Marker.. ;)
At least your eye doesn't immediately go to it. Even Dorcia, a picky inspector, says it's not bad.
One more little job off the list.


 

[Chuck in Indiana]

This is what it's all about. Rode 100 miles in light rain today to go to Guzzi lunch. She ran like a (really loud)  :o pickle seeder. The fairing works very well.. my legs hardly got wet.  Have I mentioned how much I like this little booger?  ;D

[Stormtruck2]

Looks like you picked a nice looking booger there Chuck.  When do you want to sell her??  ;) :D

[Tazturtle]

More nice work - the gaiters actually suit her too!

[Chuck in Indiana]

More nice work - the gaiters actually suit her too!

Thanks. Lucky Phil gave me some grief about the Gaudy Gaiters (tm),  ;D but I thought they'd look ok once it was all together.
Matt.. sorry, she's a keeper.

[vbares]

Great thread! Thanks for taking the time to document...

[Chuck in Indiana]

Great thread! Thanks for taking the time to document...

My pleasure..

[Bella]

Chuck,

Beautiful job!  If you're ready for a seat next winter, this is the one I just finished for Kip.........

[Chuck in Indiana]

Chuck,

Beautiful job!  If you're ready for a seat next winter, this is the one I just finished for Kip.........

Thanks! You have to use an off site photo host to post pictures now..

[Bella]

OK Chuck, I think this is it!

[kevdog3019]

I straightened mine out much more bench-like. That crevice where you sit is dangerous on your goodies. Put a piece of foam to fill and sit on it. Dense foam. Maybe not for height challenged folks with shorter legs is all. I can move back and forth now in the saddle.
Kevin

[balvenie]

           That red piping is pretty fancy, Bella ;-T

[Bella]

Kip's Lario is the same red as the piping.  Seat was a bit of a bitch to work with, as it's a steel pan (not plastic), it was seriously flake rusted (like the foam must've sat wet for a long time) and the foam was basically petrified, so I had to start from scratch.  Stripped it to the steel, ground off most of the rust, added a 2" block of rebond foam, and carved it back to shape Kip's lil touche.  Then I ground out 1/2" of foam where your sitz-bones fall, added 1/2" of surgical gel, and covered the whole seat in 1/2" of less dense foam.  Covered the whole thing in a thin layer of plastic of avoid water penetration to the foam (if Kip get's caught in the rain).  Made a pattern out of muslin, cut and sticthed the leather and piping, assembled it and then used an industrial adhesive to attach it to the steel. 

Long job, but I'm pretty please with the result and think Kip will have a Happy Ass on those long rides!

Scott Gile
Happy Ass Seats

[Chuck in Indiana]

Down to the not much left stage, and yesterday I was out doing some jetting. At 7000 rpm the generator light suddenly came on and the lights went off.  :o It was still running, so I turned around and put it in the shed. Had to go to a party (retirement's tough)  ;D so couldn't look at it until this morning.
My first thought was fuse, but my normal troubleshooting checklist is this:
Have you been screwing with it?
Yes.
Look there first.  ;D
I did take a passing glance at the fuses on the way to the ignition switch. Once I took the fairing off, the pod off, the switch out of the pod, I hooked the battery back up, had 12 v on the red wire. Turned the switch on, and had power to the switched wires. WTF? ;D
Had another look at the fuses, and this one had failed. Not blown out, just failed..
Should have taken the effort to get a better picture, but it simply came apart on the end.

When I originally went through it to go out west, I'd just sprayed the fuses,etc. with DeOxit, rotated the fuses, and called it good enough. Obviously, what I should have done is pull them out, brighten all the contacts with a stainless brush, spray with DeOxit, make sure the contacts are tight, and put new fuses in there. Guess which fuse had failed?  ;D

So, this morning, I "did what I shoulda done" and should be good to go.

I probably ought to buy (crazy talk, that would be $15) a modern fuse block with ato fuses..... but probably won't.  ;)

[dan_s]

While you're at it, check if there's a fuse between the battery and the red+ wire to the switch. If there isn't I recommend that you put one. I managed to toast my loom when the red wire connector touched the fork clamps when I was working on the clockboard.

[Guido Valvole]

I've seen those old-style fuses fail when vibration gnawed the metal on the end caps where they (used to) make contact. Looks fine until I took it out…
cr

[Chuck in Indiana]

I've seen those old-style fuses fail when vibration gnawed the metal on the end caps where they (used to) make contact. Looks fine until I took it out…
cr

Yep, that's what happened. I pulled the sidecover off, fulling expecting to see a blown fuse, and when they looked ok, I *assumed* I'd pulled a wire partially loose in the ignition switch when I was putting everything back together. Only cost me an hour an a half to pull the windshield, pull the fairing, pull the pod, look at stuff, and put it all back together.   
Machine 1. Dummy 0.  ;D :BEER:

[kevdog3019]

I replaced mind with the glass-type. Those just seem so archaic to me.
Kevin