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CL EV flood victim for $900?
« on: October 01, 2018, 07:07:41 AM »
Sorry, can't post a pic, but the CL link below is for an EV 1100 on Long Island (ugh, just a diffucult place to get to/from) that was a victim of Sandy. Seller said it's complete:

https://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/mpo/6710694873.html

Seller is one of those guys who answers in single-syllables practically, can't extract ANY significant info out of him/her. Flood. Sandy. Complete.

How bad do you reckon the effect of diluted salt water is/was on the engine/cylinder internals? Tranny and drivetrain? Wheels?

Ad has been up for a LONG time, well over a year, I think.
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2018, 07:52:58 AM »
In the Marine industry if an outboard is lost overboard most manufacturers have a recommended procedure to recover and restore it.

They include:

1. Removing it from the salt water and if it's not going to be immediately torn down submerging it in fresh water to stop/slow corrosion.

2. Disassembling it to the crank and pistons to flush, inspect, replace bearings and all metal surfaces.

3. Rebuild or replace all electrical components. (Rebuild starter, replace regulator and solid state components, they usually recommend replacing the wiring harness).

Now granted maybe you get lucky and no problems creep up.

You never know.

But to me, that's a parts bike (and many of the parts I mentioned above are suspect) or a total rebuild.

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2018, 08:16:06 AM »
 I used to do  electrical contractor work for the largest auto dismantler in western NY state...They loved flood cars for the body parts...Another comment from them was that insurance companies will often write off a vehicles sitting in 6 inches of water.....And ,generally speaking on autos/trucks, the big concern was damage to the multiple computers and if an attempt was made to start the engine before it was inspected and cleared of water and debris...
 So besides the non talking bike seller, it's a crap shoot on the bike, especially salt water...By that I mean if it's going to be necessary to disassemble and repair the engine and driveline

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2018, 08:48:21 AM »
I'd pass. You can get really nice EVs between 2-4k, and sometimes even less for the older models. That one doesn't even have either version of the tubeless rims. That's just me, the price just seems too high for one possibly also at this point with a salvaged title on top of all the rest.
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2018, 08:56:02 AM »
Oh, I was only thinking of it as a parts bike, not something I'd actually try to get into riding condition. I was mainly thinking of the engine/drivetrain, as a possible donor for either my Cal 2 (for when the day comes that the Auto leaves me stranded again and swap to a 5-speed) or my '70 Ambo. But only if I could get it for 5 bills or less. Wheels/fork might be salvageable and re-sellable after a cleaning.
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2018, 09:08:13 AM »

   That bikes been sitting for 6 years. A  $500.00 offer is most gracious of you and if he says no walk away. It's definitely a gamble.  My $.02

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2018, 09:11:21 AM »
I will not do business with someone who converses in grunts and gives nonresponsive replies.  Period.

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2018, 09:14:49 AM »
   That bikes been sitting for 6 years. A  $500.00 offer is most gracious of you and if he says no walk away. It's definitely a gamble.  My $.02

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Y'know, you're right, and if the guy was the least bit conversational I might still think up a scheme to make that awful drive, but I've learned that you can tell a lot from a man (and the thing he's selling) by the level of discourse he's willing to provide. Not a hard, fast rule, but my gut tells me this is a waste of time.

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2018, 09:55:22 AM »
Maybe I missed it, but how much is he going to pay you to haul it away?
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2018, 10:19:00 AM »
It would make a fine anchor for a medium sized boat. Submerged in salt water? Run, do not walk away..
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2018, 10:34:47 AM »
  Its almost worthless, after being is salt water then left sitting for years everything is damaged. Even for free I doubt if it worth it.
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2018, 10:38:41 AM »
Two choices in this situation- the present owner could 1) Give it away, or 2) Pay to haul it away. Ok there is a third option- put it in the back of his truck or trailer and haul it to the junk yard. I would give him a dollar for it if it had a clean title. Harsh? Reality can be.

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2018, 10:50:14 AM »
Or you could offer this guy $1500 and not deal with one that's been used as a submarine.
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2018, 10:57:56 AM »
"Parts. 1100cc. Rims tires. Small Italian OEM parts"

Words gone. Lost in flood. Trade parts for nouns, verbs.

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2018, 11:34:25 AM »
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Trade parts for nouns, verbs.

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2018, 11:57:16 AM »
that's not an EV.. looks like a 97 1100i.. no tubeless rims ..
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2018, 03:00:20 PM »
that's not an EV.. looks like a 97 1100i.. no tubeless rims ..

OK, OK, so I got that wrong, I don't know squat about Tontis after the Cal 2 model.

It's not like the owner divulged model details like that in his eloquent monologues (and I do mean mono-logues, like single-words).
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2018, 06:27:42 PM »

scrap is currently $6 a hundred. The bike weighs 600 lbs?  $36 is tops. I've seen bikes that have been submerged in water and it is amazing how the mud gets in the sealed final drive, tranny etc. It is junk.

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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2018, 06:34:13 PM »
scrap is currently $6 a hundred. The bike weighs 600 lbs?  $36 is tops. I've seen bikes that have been submerged in water and it is amazing how the mud gets in the sealed final drive, tranny etc. It is junk.

Tex

Like I said, it would make a pretty good anchor.  :smiley:
The bikes from the Money Creek (fresh water) flood required a *complete* tear down. Everything. Instruments. Switches. Salt water and sat for a long time?
Oh, never mind..
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Re: CL EV flood victim for $900?
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2018, 06:47:31 PM »
Run away and dont look back.  I lost two vintage scooters and a vintage motorcycle in Hurricane Ike in 2008.  Saltwater is crazy corrosive.  I really doubt that you could salvage much.

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