$1,900 Norge...

[SLDMRossi]

https://jackson.craigslist.org/mcy/d/jackson-motoguzzi-2008-norge/7238291952.html

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Steven Rossi

[Dave Swanson]

https://jackson.craigslist.org/mcy/d/jackson-motoguzzi-2008-norge/7238291952.html

No connection to Seller...

Steven Rossi

WOW.  Sound legit, and if it is what a steal!

[Ncdan]

How much would it cost to get the oil pump replaced?

[guzzisteve]

Labor is $1K, no need to pull motor. Front cover, pan & cyl's come off. Done a few.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Awesome bike for that price and a little labor..

[oldbike54]

 It is a Motor Guzy , no idea where to source parts for one of those .

 Something feels odd about this , be wary .

 Dusty

[Ncdan]

It appears that unless one can fix the issue themselves, by the time all the possible other issues come to light also, you would have a lot more in a 2008 model MG than it’s worth?

[guzzisteve]

Hense the sale price, but if you keep it forever, not a bad deal.

[fotoguzzi]

If the oil pump failed what else happened inside the motor?

[Huzo]

If it needs an oil pump, I’d like to know how he knows that and how long did he ride it in a suspect condition ?
Also.
I considered replacing the pump in mine being a red ‘07 which is the suspect era, it was AUD 600 a couple of years back.
Not a huge job to do yourself. The biggest issue is you need a rattle gun to get the nut off/on the crankshaft nut.
I have been in there twice and I’d say 5-6 hours for first timer, no real demons though and you can see if it has the good tensioner or not.
I would start the bike and if the oil light doesn’t go out, I’d consider walking away. It might just be the wire to the sender, but a pressure test would be advantageous.

[Huzo]

Labor is $1K, no need to pull motor. Front cover, pan & cyl's come off. Done a few.

Why did you need to remove the pan and cylinders ?

[Vagrant]

is it a 1200? roller cam issues? deals aren't always deals!

[guzzisteve]

Why did you need to remove the pan and cylinders ?

This is to wash out engine and mic the crank pin for wear. Pull engine if wear on mains is felt. Only way I do this, no surprises later, and it's only way to warranty my labor.

An 08 1200 Norge is 2V motor.

[Bisbonian]

Since nobody in his area will work on it, I wonder if it is simply the pressure switch giving him warnings and making him think it's the pump.

[oldbike54]

 IMO , any motorbike that can't be ridden away is a parts bike . Just like a house that only needs structural repair because of a "little" water damage, the chances of finding a mess are really high .

 Dusty

[nc43bsa]

Labor is $1K, no need to pull motor. Front cover, pan & cyl's come off. Done a few.

I've not worked on a Norge, but why do the cylinders have to come off?

[Huzo]

I've not worked on a Norge, but why do the cylinders have to come off?

They don’t if you are going to simply replace the pump.
But Guzzisteve removes cylinders and sump to check for wear.

[guzzisteve]

I don't take it for granted that everything is just fine, I make sure. Especially in an unknown situation. Who knows the bike? Why does the owner think pump is bad? It all depends if YOU guarantee your work on some junk somebody trashed. Do it as YOU wish it's not my crap or my work. I've worked on too many pieces of crap that was supposed to be right, I don't care how others work on or what you do to fix. I'm only concerned about what I do to fix and my methods.

[nc43bsa]

Understood.

If it were my bike, I would first verify that it had an oil pressure problem and not an oil pressure indicator problem.

If the indicator proved to be OK, then I would drop the pan and look at the rod bearings and go from there.

Even so, at $1900 it doesn't look like a bad deal, even as a parts bike.

[redrider90]

If the oil pump failed what else happened inside the motor?

Exactly

[Huzo]

I would offer half the money and take the bike away leaving it in his name.
Take it home and do some diagnostics and if it fails, get your half back. If he refuses to refund your money, have another look at the internals...
If he hands you back the half, you’ve lost nothing.
If there’s a wire off the sender...? Happy days.
I’ll take a bet with someone here that it’s not a rooted pump, especially on an ‘08...
BTW..
It wouldn’t hurt to ask the guy how he knows it’s the pump. His “mate” down the road on the front porch with the banjo, might have seen a flick of red once on the panel and wet his pants.
Maybe it was the dreaded triangle and it’s nothing more than a shagged sender.
Just buy the bastard, it’s cheap.

[bigbikerrick]

Hello Folks, I think someone could possibly get a very sweet deal here. I have discussed the bike a bit with the seller, as my son was possibly interested in it for his GF, but he determined it was a bit too much bike for her.here is some more info from the seller on the bikes condition.

Appreciate the interest. It’s been a rather lonely experience buying this bike. Yes I replace the oil sending unit down on the block. When I called to a parts house near Kansas City. I can’t remember the name of the business. They told me it wasn’t the oil pump but it should be the sending unit. The guy I bought it from I forget his name also but he owns helix racing products. He lives down in Louisiana. He told me it was probably the sending unit as well. So I replace that. Sent me the wrong one in the first place and then they had to send me another one and it took forever. I had to rent a separate storage unit just to work on the bike. So I was really excited that it was gonna be running it down. I got got it back up and running everything worked fine for about the first 10 miles and then the idiot light started coming on again.  I never said that it doesn’t start. It starts just fine. I just don’t dare use it when all these oil alarms are going off. From what I understand that indicates that it’s under 10 pounds of pressure so I obviously shouldn’t be using the bike if it’s under 10 pounds of pressure.  No one in all my travels, either on the Internet or on these different parts places suggested that it could be in the dash electronics itself.   That’s all new to me.  I live in Jackson Mississippi. The bike is stored in a storage unit.   You’re right. It may be something incredibly simple.  No the bike was never making any odd noises. It never acted like it was going to seize or evening running hot. 

The sellers name is Don, and he seems like a very nice person to deal with. If I were closer, I would probably buy it in person, but its a bit far away for me.
at least you all know its legit!
Rick.

[Bert Remington]

The dashboard makes two tests of the oil sensor:

1.  Once at KOEO for a closed switch to ensure the wiring is correct.

2.  Continuously at KOER for an open switch to ensure the oil pressure is correct.

If the oil warning light does not go out shortly after starting a cold engine you could have a wiring or pressure problem.  If the engine rattles at 2-3K rpm you most likely have a pressure problem.  If not then it's likely wiring or sensor.

If the oil warning light goes out but then comes back on after the engine has warmed for a few minutes you most likely have a pressure problem.

Replacing the oil sensor is surprisingly tricky due to its location and the difficulty of getting the proper tools in place.  Without a torque wrench it is easy to under-tighten or over-tighten the sensor both of which can lead to leaks and pressure loss.  You will need to remove the fuel tank to verify.  BTDT.  Twice.

It's a lovely Norge.  I hope it finds a new forever home.

[timonbik]

Wonder if he is using the correct grade of oil.   If the oil viscosity  is too light it is possible that the pressure could be too low causing the light to flicker, especially when hot.   One of the reasons Guzzi switched to 10w60.
Cheers, Tim

[Huzo]

Pressure switch on the early Norge is easy if you remove the airbox and loosen the alternator on it’s mounts.
I have done mine at about 90,000
First time, count about 4 hours...

[Chuck in Indiana]

If I wanted a Norge, it would already be sitting in the Guzzi Garage. (tm)

[80CX100]

If I wanted a Norge, it would already be sitting in the Guzzi Garage. (tm)

     Yup, the seller sounds like a conscientious owner, who's probably come up against some electrical gremlins.

     From the previous owner, my '79 G5 early on in it's life, had problems with flakey oil pressure warning switches, the po said screw it, and mounted an oil pressure gauge and it ran fine for 30 plus years.

     If I was in the market and close, I'd pick up the Norge, mount an oil pressure gauge as insurance and call it good, then ride or repair as required with confidence.

     fwiw ymmv

     Kelly

[AH Fan]

I would offer half the money and take the bike away leaving it in his name.
Take it home and do some diagnostics and if it fails, get your half back. If he refuses to refund your money, have another look at the internals...
If he hands you back the half, you’ve lost nothing.
If there’s a wire off the sender...? Happy days.
I’ll take a bet with someone here that it’s not a rooted pump, especially on an ‘08...
BTW..
It wouldn’t hurt to ask the guy how he knows it’s the pump. His “mate” down the road on the front porch with the banjo, might have seen a flick of red once on the panel and wet his pants.
Maybe it was the dreaded triangle and it’s nothing more than a shagged sender.
Just buy the bastard, it’s cheap.

Yup..... that would be a good route.

Ciao

[Perazzimx14]

Whoever gambles on this bike will either get a decent bike or a POS. Won't know that until they spent their money and dive in. Buying as a parts bike I think you'd struggle to get $1,900 back out of it.

In general I don't think $1900 is a deal. 

[Guzzistajohn]

To a guy who has a norge like that one OR is a mechanic with some time on his hands and garage space, it sounds like a pretty good deal to me. The plastic crap alone would cost more than $1900.00 if you could find it.