Do I need an ECU flash? 2014 V7 Racer with Agostini Exhaust (with DB Killers)

[mr_pacman]

Previous owner of my 2014 V7 Racer installed Agostini slip on exhaust  but didn't do any type of ECU flashing and has been running it stock. I'm reading that this may cause the bike to run lean and that's hard on the valves.  I plan to ride the bike with the DB Killer (baffles) installed.

I'm in Canada and the thought of removing my ECU, sending it to someone in the USA and then shipping it back it not appealing due to extra shipping/duty/brokerage costs over and above the actual flashing of the ECU.

Is this re-flash something that is important to do.

Has anyone in Canada found a local solution to this? My local dealer doesn't really have a suggestion on re-mapping the ECU.

Thanks
james

[subin]

Check the air filter and if it is stock (not high flow ones such as K&N or BMC) then you should be fine, although it is still lean as in stock.

If the engine has exhaust pops when closing throttle, then you may want to block the secondary air supply (SAS) ports and/or consider ECU flashing.

Some would suggest that you try the beetle map (don't know the cost) and you need to get the special USB cable (don't know the cost, but should not be more than US$50).
Another way is Guzzitech's ECU flash tool (around US$500 plus shipping).

You may read more here https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=87791.0 , if you have not done so already.

[Dave Swanson]

The Beetle map is the way to go.  A laptop, cables and the map of course and you are good to go in 15 minutes.  Lots of info on the forum regarding Beetle maps. 

[Cam3512]

I put an Agostini pipe on my ‘14 Special, DB killers in.  The ECU adjusted after a few miles, and all was good.  That was at around 1K miles.  Still going strong at 30K+ with the new owner.

[Caffeineo]

I'll second the Beetle map. You can get the cables on Amazon for $30 or less. Guzzidiag is free (donations accepted). Your bike will run great. Plus you can do it at home and then read error codes, reset the TPS and a whole lot more. 

[mr_pacman]

I'll second the Beetle map. You can get the cables on Amazon for $30 or less. Guzzidiag is free (donations accepted). Your bike will run great. Plus you can do it at home and then read error codes, reset the TPS and a whole lot more. 

I believe the Beetle maps are $100 now on the griso.org website which is fine with me. I'm just deciding which way to go as there is a map with the DB killers and one without. I'll sort out which way I'll ride the bike and buy the correct map. I don't want to have to buy a 2nd map if I won't use it most of the time.

[malik]

My 2014 came with a serious cold start difficulty, as did many others at that time. The Beetlemap fixed that. When later I changed the stock headers & Mistral mufflers to the fatter Agostini headers, and the Arrow (for the V7R) mufflers, it ran even better, with no map change. A Beetlemap is recommended - it works, it's cheap, you can do it yourself, and with Guzzidiag there's fringe benefits too.

[jpv7]

I believe the Beetle maps are $100 now on the griso.org website which is fine with me. I'm just deciding which way to go as there is a map with the DB killers and one without. I'll sort out which way I'll ride the bike and buy the correct map. I don't want to have to buy a 2nd map if I won't use it most of the time.

Go with the Db killers in and beetle map.  Bike will run so much better than it does now.  I've done lots of miles without DB killer in, and i can say that the noise tends to wear you down on longer rides.  You also tend to short shift more because of it.  With killers in, you'll let it rev a bit more and it still sounds nicer than stock.  I honestly think it runs better with the killers in too.

[Wildroamer]

I have a third gen, so ymmv. I did the SAS delete, evap can bypass, and Mistral pipes. I definitely needed a remap, but paid the big bucks for the GT one. Before I knew anything about the Beetle map.
Remarkable difference in how the bike runs, especially the slow speed stuff. Snatchy throttle and decel popping practically eliminated. Now... would I pay $500 again, or maybe try the $100 solution? I'd be inclined to try the Beetle map.