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A Stornello might be a bit hard to find. And it is a v7 ii vs the Rough being a v7 iii. Biggest problem I have with my Stornello is it is too beautiful to go get dirty! SNIPIf you look at the pipes of a Stone/Rough ... they do run below the frame rails but they are about the same height from the ground as the sump. So if you are smashing the pipes you are hitting sump. With a Stornello, sure pipes are high, but the sump is the same distance off the ground ... so if you are hitting the sump on a Rough you would hit the sump on the Stornello just the same. ... I would cry if I hurt my Stornello. SNIP...riding the Stornello on twisty roads is fun. I'm not worried about the tires. But ... the Conti Road Attach III tires on my Racer let you dive into corners with gusto. So if you ride these two back-to-back, then yes, I ride a slower pavement pace on the Stornello due to tires. But it isn't like scary on the pavement or anything. And you feel like it is a fun pace.
If I want to "Stornello-ize" the exhaust later, it's just a bolt-on job...
SNIPIf you don’t plan on traversing fields or challenging routes, high pipes aren’t needed.There’s not a single “scrambler” moto out there that ‘needs’ the high pipe if people aren’t going to throw the bikes into challenging terrain. The Stornello and Rough are dressed up V7s which, although the V7s are standard naked bikes similar to those of the 60s and 70s, they are HEAVY naked standards (in the 475 lb loaded range) when it comes to attempting off-road stuff. ...fat pigs if you want to challenge them off tarmac… SNIPThat said, the high pipes are indeed lighter, and weight savings always helps, but you’ll also have to do a re-map (not difficult, but you’ll need the hardware and mapping software, a couple hundred $$ total).Regarding luggage, I don’t think there are pannier racks that are made to fit over the high pipes, but you can always go the route that Bulldog and I have—visit your friendly neighborhood fabricator, and have them modify the rack to jut out and clear the pipe:
SNIPYou can pick up any V7 and ride it on forest service roads. You want to do a little more, then more aggressive tires, some tip over protection are in order.A little more, then suspension upgrades, skid plate, short or high exhaust, and even more aggressive tires are in order.A little more, then custom rear shocks with more travel, front end swap with more travel, larger front wheel, very aggressive tires, and getting rid of all extra weight is in order.
...the ergonomics...we’re getting the best of me.
I made 3" 'extensions' to mate the Hepco Becker racks to the right side to extend over the exhaust.'''
Syke, can you share more about your negative experience with the ergos?This dude says he felt like he was leaning back and reaching up to the bars. But he wondered if it was a bodged suspension or lowering job. (He's riding a used bike with aftermarket reservoir shocks.)https://youtu.be/OdaLJTAZkcA
... as for adding an Arrow scrambler exhaust to a Stone or other V7 ... they are a painful $1900 msrp. Seen them on sale for $1600 ish. One came up on eBay, said it was new, I think it was around $700, I believe someone on this forum jumped on that before I could sort out if I really needed an extra full exhaust system (I don't. But $1900 => $700 is such a deal!)
Few more thoughts on this ... ... Hepco Becker sells just the left side rack ... I was thinking of rear rack and left side rack, skip right side rack ... have 1 side bag (on left) and then a dry bag strapped on the rear rack/passenger seat area. ... as for adding an Arrow scrambler exhaust to a Stone or other V7 ... they are a painful $1900 msrp. Seen them on sale for $1600 ish. One came up on eBay, said it was new, I think it was around $700, I believe someone on this forum jumped on that before I could sort out if I really needed an extra full exhaust system (I don't. But $1900 => $700 is such a deal!) ... in my younger years I was very practical, buying "what made sense" ... in my older years I'm buying more based on emotion and "what the heck I want" ... I think the Stornello is beautiful! Way way better looking (to me) than a Stone. The problem is (like I pointed out earlier) is to me, my Storello is so darn nice, I really don't want to get it dirty! I have ridden down some non muddy dirt roads and it does clean up easily. ... so a sensible plan might be find a reasonable priced Stone, swap tires to something more dirt worthy, and go ride. If you end up bashing the pipes up you could probably find a used set of stock Stone pipes to replace them.... with the Hagon longer travel enduro shocks, my Stornello's suspension is surprisingly very good. A stock Stone suspension is not very good. I would consider that a very worthwhile upgrade, and can be done to a Stone or Stornello or Rough, etc.
I used a large 2" L bracket and bent it into a U for the upper mount, a 3" aluminum tube for the lower with a stainless carriage bolt, and then made a lower rear bracket out of aluminum stock. This goes across the back of the bike and I drilled a hole in the rear tail light/fender stay and and ran a bolt through the hole to stabilize. For fine tuning of the alignment and clearance I used stainless washers.One thing I also did was to swap out the Arrow for a Mistral Can, is about 3/4" closer to the frame. Could also be done with the Arrow, but the spacers would have to be 3.75-4" rather than 3".