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Ah that might explain the possibility why the classic could use multiple heated gears and not drain the battery.My 15 stone wet alternator version is either gloves or vest
430W is what they sayJust for comparison from the manuals:Stelvio is 550WNorge is 540WV9 is 270WV7iii is 268WV7ii is 270WV7 Classic is 350W<---????
... a few flys in the ointment. First, weight. At a little over 500 lbs fueled, it’s almost 50 lbs Heavier than my GS,
Well, let's see. The F800GS has an advertised wet weight (curb) of 512 pounds and that's stripped of any bars, bags or aux lighting.The R1200GS has an advertised weight of 525 pounds, again, stripped.The 800GS and the 1200GS have now been replaced by the 850 and 1250 new models with similar weights. I wonder if the Guzzi 850 weight includes the bags etc as did the specs given for the Stelvio NTX. This was a source of great misinformation for comparison of the GS and the Stelvio NTX. People thought the GS was so much lighter than the Stelvio NTX but the BMW spec didn't include all the weight of the standard equipment that came stock with the Stelvio. Sounds like the worst case is one where the new 850TT is about the same weight as the current BMW 800 series. If the Guzzi weight includes bags etc, then is actually lighter than a 800 GS.
I'm bummed about the tube-type wheels. I ride mostly pavement, and some gravel roads. I'd much prefer tubeless for plug-and-go convenience when I pick up a nail...Some of the test mules had Alpina tubeless spokes. I guess they didn't make production due to cost considerations.They've really dropped the ball if they don't come up with a tubeless wheel option. Even if it's a cast wheel...
'Moto Guzzi. Spoiling the ship for a ha'porth of tar since, well, a long time now'!Piaggio claim to want to build something spectacular. Then they deliver a 2 valve 'Turd in a Tu-Tu', lie about its performance, stick it in a chassis with cheap, bargain basement, suspension design, fling on a set of the cheapest wheels imaginable and then pray it will appeal to some huge, untapped, market of non motorbike riders who will then rush out and buy it!Good grief!
They had one at the Long Beach Motoshow. It looks good in person.
The 2 valve doesn't disappoint me as much as the other stuff you mention. In short order folks like Todd at Guzzi Tech will offer exhausts, suspension and tubeless wheels to help combat the ill from the factory. So it'll only take another $10,000 to get the exhaust, wheels and suspension sorted. But since the bike is priced so reasonably at $12,999 what's another $10,000 And that gawd awful yellow and red color combination look like offering from the McDonalds value menu!Agreed. But, how many bikes are there there DON'T need a lot of this stuff in this price range? Maybe KTM, but that's not in my personal wheelhouse.Da, da, da, dat,....da...…..I'm not loving it!
So it's 12,999 and people moan about the tubes and other details. If it had all that stuff you'd just complain that it cost too much.Guzzi has built a middle weight ADV. Be happy that Piaggio puts in the effort. Left to Aprillia Guzzi might well be gone by now!Hunter