V7 to V9

[tasdisr]

According to the motorcycle ergonomics website there is only a 5 degree difference in body lean between the two bikes.

When I checked it showed a 7 degree difference between the V7 Stone & V9 Bobber. With the Roamers higher bars I would think the difference would be greater.

[Aaron D.]

I'm glad to see the V9 getting some admiration. Though I am approaching geezerdom and love classic styling, I like to see something new that grows on me the more I see it. My friend loves his.

Too bad that it takes such big price drops to get them moving.

[tasdisr]

I'm glad to see the V9 getting some admiration. Though I am approaching geezerdom and love classic styling, I like to see something new that grows on me the more I see it. My friend loves his.

Too bad that it takes such big price drops to get them moving.

The price drop is what got me to consider the 2017 V9. The 2018 have not been released in the US yet and what I have read the major changes are the seat, rear shocks and paint color.

[oilhed]

I'm glad to see the V9 getting some admiration. Though I am approaching geezerdom and love classic styling, I like to see something new that grows on me the more I see it. My friend loves his.

Too bad that it takes such big price drops to get them moving.

I just can't love the gas tank.  Otherwise a nice looking bike.

[tasdisr]

I just can't love the gas tank.  Otherwise a nice looking bike.

I did not like the gas tank at first, but it has been growing on me to the point that I like it now.

[Aaron D.]

I find they look better in person. In fact they remind me in a way of some MV tanks. Like the Terreblanche SS

[DaSwami]

I was very disappointed the sweet green 2018 Roamer did not make it here...but my wallet was happy.

[tasdisr]

I was very disappointed the sweet green 2018 Roamer did not make it here...but my wallet was happy.

I think after the EICMA show in Milan next month the 2018 V9�s will be announced for the US.
The green is very nice, but I still like the yellow 2017.

[Vagrant]

No MFG. in their right mind is going to bring a year old model to the US unless they can issue it as a 2019. At that point it still won't sell well because the word will get out it's already a year old. If they just made it with a gallon bigger tank it might have been a better seller. That's why I got a V7III instead.

[tasdisr]

No MFG. in their right mind is going to bring a year old model to the US unless they can issue it as a 2019. At that point it still won't sell well because the word will get out it's already a year old. If they just made it with a gallon bigger tank it might have been a better seller. That's why I got a V7III instead.

Hard to say what they will do. This is what the rep emailed me about the 2018 V9s when I asked.


Thank you for reaching out to Piaggio Group Americas, Inc. - Moto Guzzi Customer Care.  It is my pleasure to help you with your questions on the availability of the 2018 model V9 Roamer.   Unfortunately we did not bring the 2018 models into the US Market and they are not available in the USA or Canada.  We will have more information later in November after the Motorcycle Show called EICMA in Italy where our latest models will be announced. If you keep an eye on the Moto Guzzi website it will be updated with the latest models as soon as they are made available.   

The  V9 Roamer's that we do have available are the 2017 models at this time.  Please see the link below for the website.  Any of our dealers can assist you with test rides and more information, but you are also welcome to reach out to Piaggio Group Americas, Inc. - Moto Guzzi Customer Care at 212-380-4433 Monday through Friday from 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM Pacific Time.

[twowheeladdict]

No MFG. in their right mind is going to bring a year old model to the US unless they can issue it as a 2019. At that point it still won't sell well because the word will get out it's already a year old. If they just made it with a gallon bigger tank it might have been a better seller. That's why I got a V7III instead.

I always put my bikes away full of fuel and so far in a total of 950 miles haven't put in more than 2.5 gallons.

[kidsmoke]

to the OP.

Available now in SW Ohio.

2017
200 miles
Agostinis.
$7000.00

run. don't walk.

[tasdisr]

to the OP.

Available now in SW Ohio.

2017
200 miles
Agostinis.
$7000.00

run. don't walk.



Saw that on Cadres web site. May have to check it out, though I do prefer the Roamer.

[kidsmoke]

Saw that on Cadres web site. May have to check it out, though I do prefer the Roamer.

Take a portion of the 2 grand below retail you saved, and buy the roamer front wheel. You'll have a one off with Agostinis, not even broken in. 

[Kev m]

According to the motorcycle ergonomics website there is only a 5 degree difference in body lean between the two bikes.

First, I'm not convinced of the accuracy of that site. But more importantly that number is going to vary by rider.

[Kev m]

prefer the roamer...

I keep hearing reports that the Bobber actually handles better.... Maybe ride it and see.

[tasdisr]

I keep hearing reports that the Bobber actually handles better.... Maybe ride it and see.

I do plan on checking it out, especially at that price. Hopefully it will be there Thursday since that is the soonest I can get up there.

[Kev m]

I do plan on checking it out, especially at that price. Hopefully it will be there Thursday since that is the soonest I can get up there.

Good luck and have fun. I love buying bikes! Hopefully you can enjoy the process!

[tasdisr]

Good luck and have fun. I love buying bikes! Hopefully you can enjoy the process!

Thanks! The local dealer, Cadre Cycle, are a great bunch and easy to work with.

[bpreynolds]

First, I'm not convinced of the accuracy of that site. But more importantly that number is going to vary by rider.

This absolutely.  I've found Cycle-Ergos to be a good site to get a very general idea about how a bike "might" fit someone.  Also, while I haven't double checked the site for V9/V7 comparison, I wonder if they are also factoring in peg position.  The V9s stock pegs are more forward; thus, even if the so called difference is only 4 percent in lean, it is going to feel like more because your feet are more forward. Some folks prefer this riding position while others may not.  I guess I'm just saying CE may/may not be accurate as to the 4 percent lean difference, but I can tell you that with the stock V9 pegs it certainly "feels" like the ergonomic differences between the two bikes is more than this stated difference.  All this said, aside from my pre-existing lower back disc issues that are mine and only my problem, I did not find either the V9 nor the V7 to have odd nor uncomfortable ergos.  In fact, I feel like they are more natural than modern Bonnies and their narrow handlebars. 

[oilhed]

whats the deal with all the bikes with fat front wheels this year.  Did the Fat Bob start this trend.  Look at the new Sportster Custom...

P.S.  If there was an optional large tank for the V9 Roamer like this...

[Kev m]

whats the deal with all the bikes with fat front wheels this year.  Did the Fat Bob start this trend.  Look at the new Sportster Custom...

P.S.  If there was an optional large tank for the V9 Roamer like this...

Nah that's been going that way for a while. Hell the 2010 Harley 48 had a fat (130) front tire. That was almost a decade ago and I don't think that was first, it's just the first that comes to my mind.

[twowheeladdict]

First, I'm not convinced of the accuracy of that site. But more importantly that number is going to vary by rider.

Absolutely.   That is why you put in the rider height, inseam, where you normally sit on the seat, bend of the arm, etc.  For me it came out to 5 percent difference.

[twowheeladdict]

This absolutely.  I've found Cycle-Ergos to be a good site to get a very general idea about how a bike "might" fit someone.  Also, while I haven't double checked the site for V9/V7 comparison, I wonder if they are also factoring in peg position.  The V9s stock pegs are more forward; thus, even if the so called difference is only 4 percent in lean, it is going to feel like more because your feet are more forward. Some folks prefer this riding position while others may not.  I guess I'm just saying CE may/may not be accurate as to the 4 percent lean difference, but I can tell you that with the stock V9 pegs it certainly "feels" like the ergonomic differences between the two bikes is more than this stated difference.  All this said, aside from my pre-existing lower back disc issues that are mine and only my problem, I did not find either the V9 nor the V7 to have odd nor uncomfortable ergos.  In fact, I feel like they are more natural than modern Bonnies and their narrow handlebars.

The person was talking about weight on the wrists so I only looked at body lean angle.  The bobber is 0 and the v7 is 5 for me. 

[Kev m]

Absolutely.   That is why you put in the rider height, inseam, where you normally sit on the seat, bend of the arm, etc.  For me it came out to 5 percent difference.

I know, I've looked at it. But even then it's a guesstimate at best.

*Do you always sit with exact same portion of the foot on the peg as they use to calculate, or do you move your feet around resting on the heel or ball of the foot. How about on a bike with floorboards then my legs can really move around.

*Do you ever change the seat on the bike? Do you slide forward or back on the seat?

* Arm bend is a weird input because you have to actually sit on the bike to figure it out and it changes the whole lean. So since the calculator can't guess your arm length and you'd have to guess bend you really don't know what the lean value is unless you're "average" in that sense. Of course you can also change bars which changes all that too, and of course see the last one, changing the seat changes that too.

So it's all kinda a swag. It's a cute website, but not a particularly useful tool in my book.

[jas67]

I love the 2-valve air cooled Duc motors!    Is that an 1100 or 796?     I've got the 796 Monster.   It is definitely a smile maker.

Handled very well, that big fat tire tracked well. I love twisties and worried about that. No problems. My other bike is a terror on twisty roads. But the V9 did not disappoint!

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[jas67]

Got a call from Enzo at Cadre last night to let me know he just got a V9 Roamer in if I wanted to take it for a test ride. Of course I went up first thing this morning to take a look. To me the bike looks great in white with the red striping. He put a tag on it and told me to have fun. I only put about 20-25 miles on it but I was pretty impressed. I like the more upright seating position over my V7, but i was not too crazy about the peg position. Enzo told me there is a kit that will move the pegs back around 2 1/2 inches to a more European riding position.

Thinking very hard about taking advantage of the $1000.00 off the 2017 V9"s. The 2018 V9 does not look much different except for the paint and seats. I understand they changed the rear shocks also. Don't think the price difference would be worth it.

Have you ridden the V7-III?   How do the V9 and V7-III compare, power-wise?

Also, regarding that peg kit, I was under the impression that the 2017 and newer V9 already had it, and that the 2016 was the one with the pegs further back.    Does this kit change a 2016 to be like the later bikes, or does it set the pegs back 2 1/2 further back from the 2017 and later bikes?

[jas67]

According to the motorcycle ergonomics website there is only a 5 degree difference in body lean between the two bikes.

Foot position is different as well.   The some total is definitely different.    The V9's ergos work better for some, and the V7 for others.   I'm glad we have both to choose from.

[tasdisr]

Have you ridden the V7-III?   How do the V9 and V7-III compare, power-wise?

Also, regarding that peg kit, I was under the impression that the 2017 and newer V9 already had it, and that the 2016 was the one with the pegs further back.    Does this kit change a 2016 to be like the later bikes, or does it set the pegs back 2 1/2 further back from the 2017 and later bikes?

I have not ridden the V7 III. I have a V7 II and to me at least the V9 seemed to have more power and was just smoother running. As far as the pegs go all I know is what  the dealer told me. Said it would move the pegs back about 2 1/2 inches back on the 2017 V9's.

[wittangamo]

I’ve ridden a V7 III and both the V9 Roamer and Bobber. I bought the Roamer.

The V9 pulls a little harder than the III and the torque comes on at lower rpms. Not a huge difference, but noticeable.

I like the styling of the Roamer better than the Bobber. And while the original flat seats looked the same, the Bobber’s saddle was harder and less comfortable after a few miles. I can’t speak for the newer dual saddle or the optional solo.

My pegs had been moved back by the dealer using the factory kit before I got it, so I can’t speak to the difference in foot position. The Roamer’s ergos are relaxed, and at 5’9” with a 30” inseam I’m happy touring or blasting around the back roads. The stock suspension felt harsh at first, but it loosened up with mileage and a little less preload. Not race-ready, but adequate for moderate speeds on smooth pavement.

There are folks with different opinions posting here, but I thought the fat front tire and flat handlebar on the Bobber made it steer a little heavier. It wasn’t that it handled badly, but it took a bit more effort to set up for a turn and didn’t react as quickly to small line changes. All IMHO, of course, and based on about an hour of test riding on each on a variety of roads.

I initially bought the M-G small windscreen for the V9, but the air hit me right in the face and buffeted my helmet at highway speeds. I swapped it for a Dart flyscreen and all was well. My most expensive farkle was a pair of Agostini short slip-ons. No performance difference, but well worth it for uncorking that V-twin rumble missing from the stock exhaust.