Wildgoose Chase Moto Guzzi

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Adk.IBO on November 22, 2020, 08:52:41 AM

Title: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Adk.IBO on November 22, 2020, 08:52:41 AM
Trying to decide between these two brands of wheel chocks for use inside an enclosed trailer. Leaning towards the Condor trailer only model as I wonít use it anywhere else- and four thumbscrews to remove/install. Itís also cheaper...
Thanks to anyone with experience with either brand.
I want to be able to bug out of the Adirondacks in the winter taking my bike and also take my bike with me for mission trips doing electrical work in different parts of the country...
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: gsf12man on November 22, 2020, 10:43:01 AM
My only chock experience is with the Baxley Sport Chock and it has been 100% great, well-made, easy to use. I screw it down on my Harbor Freight lift and move it to my Aluma trailer, free-standing (with tiedowns of course), for bike transport.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: elvisboy77 on November 22, 2020, 10:45:34 AM
I have a Baxley LA, it is fantastic.  Very heavy duty.

I don't think I would use first cost as a deciding factor when you are holding up your motorcycle with the thing.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: kballowe on November 22, 2020, 10:47:36 AM
Bought our 1st Condor chock several years ago.  Then bought another one for the other trailer.

Heavy, functional, and very well made

Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: tommy2cyl on November 22, 2020, 10:49:01 AM
I had two Condor's fixed in my HiPoint HP 14 trailer.  Worked great, very adjustable.  Convenient to be  able to break it down pulling a few pins and only leave the base bolted to the floor to open up the space. Also have a Baxley I use in the shop.  Also good for that application. 
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 22, 2020, 11:20:59 AM
You want cheap go to Harbor Freight. Nothing wrong at all with the function for about $40. You'll have to get your own thumb screws.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Foto/i-ZVLsmPw/0/770aa0ac/L/IMG_0493-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Foto/i-ZVLsmPw/A)
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Perazzimx14 on November 22, 2020, 11:26:23 AM
I bought 2 Baxleys years ago. One was attached to the HF lift and the other reserved for floor/truck bed duty. They have been rock solid and I would not hesitate to buy again. I'm sure the Condor is just as good so it more than likely boils down to cost.

Earlier this year I bought a different lift with a good wheel vise so I no longer need the extra Baxley. If you are in or around south central PA I'll sell one of my Baxley's for $125.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: danomar on November 22, 2020, 12:52:52 PM
One thing the Baxlet sport chock does which few, if any other chock does is it squeezes the front wheel as the wheel rolls in. It locks the wheel better than any other chock I have used. I still have vivid memories of hauling a LM IV in my pickup truck with only tie-down straps and the Baxley. There were a few occasions when I went too hot into a off/on-ramp but the Baxley held the bike perfectly the entire trip.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Lannis on November 22, 2020, 01:59:18 PM
I have one Condor and one Baxley, which I move between trailers and lifts as necessary.

Both equally high quality and functionality, both made in USA.   I wouldn't buy another cheap Chinese one if it were $.99.   Not worth the risk on a trailer or high up on a stand.

These "self-holding" chocks are the greatest thing since sliced bread for one guy handling a motorcycle!  No more rolling it onto the ramp and then juggling the bike and a tie down, hoping you've got it balanced while you run to the other side.   Roll it in ... and let it go!

Lannis
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 22, 2020, 02:03:53 PM
You want cheap go to Harbor Freight. Nothing wrong at all with the function for about $40. You'll have to get your own thumb screws.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Foto/i-ZVLsmPw/0/770aa0ac/L/IMG_0493-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Foto/i-ZVLsmPw/A)

No complaints with my Harbor Freight chocks.  When set up properly I am able to get off the bike and walk around to strap it down.  I do wish that the rotating brace was the part that relocates instead of the stop.  I use pit boss fasteners for easy release when I am camping in the trailer.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Adk.IBO on November 22, 2020, 06:18:28 PM
Thank you for your responses. I am in no hurry as the trailer I ordered will be at least 4 months before it arrives due to - productivity issues.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Tom H on November 22, 2020, 06:55:55 PM
If you or anyone wants to try the HF one. Add some thick fender or standard type washers on the rod between the frame and the pivoting catch part. You could also ad some to the stop. Tightens it up quite a bit. No wiggles.

Tom
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Motormike on November 23, 2020, 10:44:13 AM
As long as you're going to bolt it down, the Condor is fine.  I've tried about all the "teter-toter" style front chocks, and the Baxley is the only one heavy enough not to slide when you are trying to pull the bike out of the chalk.  All the rest require they be bolted, weighted, or otherwise held in place or they just slide backwards with the bike...a real PITA if you're by yourself.  Warm tires after a ride only make it worse.  One very good alternative that hasn't been mentioned is the "wheel-dock."  Mostly for Harleys and bikes with larger front tires.  I have one and find it very easy to use.  https://wheeldock.com/pages/harley-wheel-chock

With any of them, your aim has to be spot-on or the bike will be crossed-up a bit. 
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 23, 2020, 11:20:33 AM
As long as you're going to bolt it down, the Condor is fine.  I've tried about all the "teter-toter" style front chocks, and the Baxley is the only one heavy enough not to slide when you are trying to pull the bike out of the chalk.  All the rest require they be bolted, weighted, or otherwise held in place or they just slide backwards with the bike...a real PITA if you're by yourself.  Warm tires after a ride only make it worse.  One very good alternative that hasn't been mentioned is the "wheel-dock."  Mostly for Harleys and bikes with larger front tires.  I have one and find it very easy to use.  https://wheeldock.com/pages/harley-wheel-chock

With any of them, your aim has to be spot-on or the bike will be crossed-up a bit.
the sliding backwards pita can be solved easily with a board mounted to the choke so your rear tire rests/weighs down the chock. It can't slide on the floor at all then.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mhQbCVG/0/L/i-mhQbCVG-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-mhQbCVG/A)
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Adk.IBO on November 23, 2020, 03:38:40 PM
I really like the looks of that Wheeldock chock since I'm 5'3" with a 28" inseam. It's gotta be a lot easier backing out without going up and over the teeter totter. Thanks for mentioning that one Motormike! :thumb:

I may need to remove the chock so I can stow my Bushtec in front of the motorcycle, then reinstall and load the bike... and vice versa.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Perazzimx14 on November 23, 2020, 04:29:40 PM
I really like the looks of that Wheeldock chock since I'm 5'3" with a 28" inseam. It's gotta be a lot easier backing out without going up and over the teeter totter. Thanks for mentioning that one Motormike! :thumb:

I may need to remove the chock so I can stow my Bushtec in front of the motorcycle, then reinstall and load the bike... and vice versa.

I always stand beside the bike back the bike out of the chock then set it on the side stand before getting on as normal.  Give me much more control in stead of back walking the bike whilst straddling it. Most of the time I also just push the bike in the chock. If you ride in it has a tendency to slide forward.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 24, 2020, 08:15:34 AM
I always stand beside the bike back the bike out of the chock then set it on the side stand before getting on as normal.  Give me much more control in stead of back walking the bike whilst straddling it. Most of the time I also just push the bike in the chock. If you ride in it has a tendency to slide forward.

My legs are so much stronger than my arms that I can duck walk it in and use my legs to back it out while sitting on the seat and then I have stability on both sides of the bike.  I usually slowly ride it in but if I am about to check the valves I walk it in so I don't have to wait for it to cool down again. 
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Motormike on November 24, 2020, 11:14:52 AM
I really like the looks of that Wheeldock chock since I'm 5'3" with a 28" inseam. It's gotta be a lot easier backing out without going up and over the teeter totter. Thanks for mentioning that one Motormike! :thumb:

I may need to remove the chock so I can stow my Bushtec in front of the motorcycle, then reinstall and load the bike... and vice versa.
The Wheeldock is not too heavy to pick up and move around. (The Baxley is the heaviest to carry) The long release lever flops around loose when not in the latched position, so you have to watch that, but not much of a problem.  They make several sizes for different bikes.  My "Harley" version is a bit too wide and long for a 17 inch wheel. Wheeldock offers gap spacers, don't know how well that would work.  I'd buy another one without hesitation.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Adk.IBO on November 25, 2020, 09:48:10 AM
I will only need to undo it from the floor of the trailer to slide it to the side so my Bushtec trailer can get by. It will be a rare occasion to remove it from the trailer.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Italianmotofest on November 25, 2020, 09:57:04 AM

Iíve never used a Baxley. But I love my two Condor stands. Both mounted to my trailer and are never completely removed.


Bill
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on November 26, 2020, 01:54:38 PM
When I "built" the stand to use in the Transit van, I used a Condor for the guts. The goal was to *not* have the bike eat us for breakfast if we were in a wreck, and possibly upside down. It holds the front wheel firmly, and is really sturdy.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Spuddy on December 09, 2020, 09:51:57 AM
Baxley "Trailer" chock.  The "flat" front end allows close placement to trailer walls or truck bed.  Ultimately versatile.  One of the best accessory investments I've ever made.  But, although it IS an investment, cost-wise, it's well worth it for years of utility.  With it, I can fit Lola ('13 Stelvio) in the back of my Silverado long bed even with a liner in it.

Spud
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: PJPR01 on December 09, 2020, 03:19:33 PM
2 Baxleys' in my garage, one black for the Scura, one red for the Griso...solid pieces, very well constructed.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Muzz on December 09, 2020, 03:51:54 PM
 :embarrassed:
I read the heading and thought ,ooh, Seely Condor, but I have never heard of a Baxley....

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=seeley+condor&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ea-UGgF5FvL7PM%252CLAL1kEwvNFKg7M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTt61LrKisb1hGbSVw-IFw5s7w2BA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdl7_y78HtAhU3yjgGHUxaBOQQ9QF6BAgJEAE&biw=1920&bih=910#imgrc=coZkaHr7uJjVjM

I did have the 350 version of the motor all mounted in a G12 frame but couldn't locate a gearbox....sigh, one of my regrets.

Now, back to the original topic.  I made my own out of free scrap steel I had lying about. (Guzzi content).  Not as pretty as those shown.  It works.  Wot more can I say. :wink:
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on December 09, 2020, 04:20:32 PM
Quote
I made my own out of free scrap steel I had lying about. (Guzzi content).  Not as pretty as those shown.  It works.  Wot more can I say. :wink:

That, of course, is the best one.  :smiley: :thumb:
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Muzz on December 09, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
That, of course, is the best one.  :smiley: :thumb:

Works for me Chuck.  Scottish heritage, married to a Dutch lady and I own a Guzzi.

Didn't stand a chance really.  <shrug> :laugh:
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on December 09, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
Works for me Chuck.  Scottish heritage, married to a Dutch lady and I own a Guzzi.

Didn't stand a chance really.  <shrug> :laugh:

Ancestry says I'm 20% Scotch myself. Who would have thought?  :grin:
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: keener on December 09, 2020, 06:14:46 PM
2 Baxleys' in my garage, one black for the Scura, one red for the Griso...solid pieces, very well constructed.


Yep well worth the money  :cool:   
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Adk.IBO on December 09, 2020, 07:15:23 PM
I transported my Norge from the Adirondacks to western Illinois and back one winter so my brother in law could help me fabricate my trailer hitch in a U-Haul with my 2x4 wood and screws wheel chock. Cheapest!
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Green1 on December 09, 2020, 09:51:01 PM
Have a Baxley and love it works fine and doesn't need to be bolted down,have seen a Condor still locked to the wheel with the bike on its side.
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Muzz on December 09, 2020, 10:57:46 PM
Ancestry says I'm 20% Scotch myself. Who would have thought?  :grin:

Scottish Chuck, Scottish!  Scotch, as you well know, is my favourite drink. (spelt with no "e" of course). :grin:
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: mr_pacman on March 04, 2021, 11:35:32 AM
For those of you on this thread with the Baxley Sport Chock (not the LA or other models) and a V7 with the 100/90-18" wheel, does the bike fit well and snug in the Baxley sport?

According to the Baxley website,  It's meant for a slightly wider tire and a 17" wheel. I called Baxley and spoke with Chip there (who is a very nice, patient and knowledgeable) and he felt the Sport could work but it wouldn't be as snug as it would be with a wider tire. Unfortunately he couldn't comment specifically on the how it would work on a V7 front wheel.

So, if you have a modern V7 (I to III) and the Baxley sport, how does it fit?

Thanks
James
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: PJPR01 on March 04, 2021, 11:47:00 AM
You could always get an old tire, cut it, drive into it while inserted into the chock to give you some extra "width" to snug it up.  Add some extra straps as some others have mentioned for extra security.

Unless you've got a bunch of people jumping around, it's not going to fall.

 :thumb: :thumb:

Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 04, 2021, 12:13:24 PM
For those of you on this thread with the Baxley Sport Chock (not the LA or other models) and a V7 with the 100/90-18" wheel, does the bike fit well and snug in the Baxley sport?

According to the Baxley website,  It's meant for a slightly wider tire and a 17" wheel. I called Baxley and spoke with Chip there (who is a very nice, patient and knowledgeable) and he felt the Sport could work but it wouldn't be as snug as it would be with a wider tire. Unfortunately he couldn't comment specifically on the how it would work on a V7 front wheel.

So, if you have a modern V7 (I to III) and the Baxley sport, how does it fit?

Thanks
James

My 2012 V7 Racer spent most of its life when parked in the garage in a Baxley Sport chock. No extra tie downs just push inlet go of the bike and walk away. YMMV
Title: Re: Condor or Baxley?
Post by: Stretch on April 25, 2021, 06:07:04 PM
Just got my Baxley LA Chock yesterday.

Rock solid with my 2015 Triumph Trophy in it.

It's adjustable, and it will take a few tries to dial the adjustments
in for each of the 5 bikes I own. Once I got it right, I can push the
Trophy in and pull it out by myself. You'd have to be doing something really
stupid or not paying attention to knock it over. (Not saying it can't be done,
but it's really stable.)

A very nice piece of kit. Expensive, but so's picking up your bike and
buying bodywork......

                                                       -Stretch