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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: the beast on January 04, 2015, 11:09:42 AM

Title: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: the beast on January 04, 2015, 11:09:42 AM
Maybey I 'm blonde but i did not fully understand the rates on selling a bike on ebay.....who has experience with this? My english isnt that brilliant so it could be due to that that i dont understand? Ebay wants % off the sellingprice ?

Thanx in advance!
Peter
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: Perazzimx14 on January 04, 2015, 11:53:29 AM
What I do know about ebay coupled with PayPal is selling is prohibitively expensive.

I only use ebay as a last ditch effort when selling something.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: rocker59 on January 04, 2015, 12:00:59 PM
Ebay and PayPal make selling an expensive proposition, unless you got the item very cheaply.

I've quit selling on Ebay, but I still use it to buy.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: cruzziguzzi on January 04, 2015, 12:02:46 PM
It can get bad:

I haven't sold for several months because after looking at over $3,000 in sales on a "run" of items - I realized something close to only $2,000.

Listing fee
Final value fee - post sale percentages
Shipping costs sometimes absorbed by me
Expenses to buyer and seller incurred in the instances of Pay-Pal payments

All this before paying due taxes. >:(

Ebay was just getting out of hand there.

This above, keeping in mind that I have several other venues in which to sell things.

Todd.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: rocker59 on January 04, 2015, 12:08:32 PM
This may help:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/motorfees.html

Motorcycles, Powersports, Trailers and Boats Listing Fee:
Under $2,000 = $60
Over $2,000 = $125

"If your vehicle sells, you may be charged a successful listing fee if:   
-You receive a bid on an auction-style listing without a reserve price
-You receive a bid that meets your reserve price on an auction-style listing with a reserve price
-A buyer clicks Buy It Now in a listing offering a fixed price
-You accept a Best Offer
-The amount of the successful listing fee depends on if you're a low- or high-volume seller, and the vehicle price.
-The vehicle price is the final bid amount, Buy It Now price, or accepted Best Offer.

There's no additional fee charged on the actual sale of the vehicle after it sells. However, you'll be charged a successful listing fee regardless of whether you carry out the sale with the buyer."
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: the beast on January 04, 2015, 01:08:14 PM
Thats what I ment! Just say 125 dollar above 2000 dollar and i understand but then that whole rest texting !
So now i have to think about putting my norge on ebay ....
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: jabberwocky on January 04, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
I think they are pretty deliberate about making it hard to understand all of there fees. I used to sell lots of stuff through ebay, but now I prefer just to sell through here and ADVrider. I still buy lots of stuff on ebay though!
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: boatdetective on January 04, 2015, 06:34:17 PM
Ditto. EPrey Sux. I will buy, butt have given up on selling. Way too many ways for buyers to scam sellers and no support from eBay. The fees have gone waaay out of control.

I like using Craigslist as there is no real barrier.  Never had a bad experience. Forum For Sales are also great resources.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on January 04, 2015, 09:03:07 PM
Where else you gonna list it? Seems odd to begrudge eBay & PayPal a few percent when they allow you to list an item with a few clicks and present it to a worldwide audience. And then accept payment from anyone with a pretty decent degree of fraud protection.

I always assume you end up losing about 10% after it's all said & done.. To me for the ease of use and huge audience.. It's worth it.


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Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: Rusty goose on January 05, 2015, 09:30:54 AM
Between Ebay and PP, I believe your out about 13%. They take their % of the the shipping $ too. Billions go through PP hand, yet they are not a bank and are not held to banking rules.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: mtiberio on January 05, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: mtiberio on January 05, 2015, 11:01:29 AM
remember what it was like to try and sell a guzzi in the days before ebay? you could go broke putting classifieds in your local big city newspaper, and still never sell it. ebay/paypal has a cost, it is called the cost of doing business. Figure it into the equation before you put a starting price on your item. If you weep after an ebay sale you only have yourself to blame.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: tusong200 on January 05, 2015, 01:42:55 PM
Between Ebay and PP, I believe your out about 13%. They take their % of the the shipping $ too.

That's true for parts but not vehicles. $125 'successful' listing fee MAX. And no charge at all if you don't get any bids. How can that be a bad deal?

PAYPAL will take about 3-1/2% if you use them but I would never use them for a vehicle.

I've sold hundreds of items (from airplanes to beer cans) with no complaints about ebay or PAYPAL. The only problems I've ever had are with ****-head buyers.

That being said, I would certainly try the obvious first....classified s here and MGNOC. I sold my Monza off MGNOC several years ago.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: NC Steve on January 12, 2015, 12:43:20 PM
Between Ebay and PP, I believe your out about 13%. They take their % of the the shipping $ too. Billions go through PP hand, yet they are not a bank and are not held to banking rules.

Rusty, you've said that Ebay and/or Paypal take a percentage of the shipping costs too. In the last year or so, I've noticed many more sellers offering their items with "free shipping"; would this be the reason why? Does Ebay not see this as a way for sellers to bypass paying their total fees? And I see no other means of payment that is easier and safer than using Paypal, nearly all sellers take that path these days, at least on smaller items.

I have a large number of older motorcycle magazines that I'm trying to inventory and then list in Ebay, PIA though it will no doubt be. But, I really can't think of any other forum or site by which I could sell them, and Ebay can provide pictures for the listing of many, I think, if that issue has ever sold before, via their "have one to sell?" link from other listings. Sellers offer a flat rate, with shipping costs included, whereas others ask their price and then add shipping to the total. Does it not seem like the "free shipping" route might be the least complicated and financially painless way to go?
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: Hahnda on January 12, 2015, 04:37:42 PM
Free shipping really isn't free. You have to up the price of the item to cover your cost to ship. That results in ebay still getting a cut of the shipping cost. Whatever you way you do it ebay gets a cut. It used to be people charging a really low price for the item and inflating the cost for shipping to get around the ebay fees. Ebay caught on and starting charging fees on the item and the shipping.

Personally I don't like free shipping as a buyer. If I buy multiple items from a seller you end up paying the built in shipping for each item even though the seller ships them all together.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: Rough Edge racing on January 12, 2015, 05:07:02 PM
 I sell and buy bike and car parts on Ebay. My cost to sell parts is about 10 percent. Paypal can be a problem if a buyer is dissatisfied for any reason including buyer's remorse. They can tell Paypal they got taken and refund their money, and PP usually will. For vehicles,only accept Paypal for a small down payment..
 I like using PayPal for private sales.....Send the money "personal" and avoid transaction fees but again no recourse if the seller screws you.
Title: Re: ebay unclear about their rates?
Post by: Rusty goose on January 13, 2015, 12:33:47 AM
I agree, it is still the go to place to sell. I go with free shipping bit just for convenience. I get tired of the " what will be shipping be to...". Even with a shipping calculator the questions come. Most stuff I sell I can put in a flat rate box, then price accordingly. I'm just not happy giving up the % to both entities like they're separate. They have some crazy rules too, they have relaxed some of the gun related stuff finally.