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Sometime within the next 12 months, I plan to buy an RV / travel trailer. I am semi-retired and my wife plans to retire early 2016. We plan to spend about 100 days per year traveling across the US. Maybe more if we both really take to it.We have looked at travel trailers at RV shows the past couple of years. As of now, my choice is a regular tow behind (not a 5th wheel) with a base dry weight of 5000-6000 pounds. I prefer to tow the trailer to a spot and have the tow vehicle available for exploring, errands etc. I sold my last pickup, a Ford F150 a couple of years ago and don't particularly want another pickup. I am considering buying a used late model all wheel drive SUV to do the work, and my choices have been narrowed to a Lexus GX470 (tow capacity 6500), Porsche Cayenne S (7716), or a Land Rover LR3 or LR4 (7716). Does anyone here have experience with the forgoing vehicles? How about towing with them?
From someone with tens of thousands of towing miles, your towing experience will be miserable, if you're pulling at or near the max rating for your truck/suv. If you're going to be towing lots of miles with a high profile trailer that weighs 6000+ lbs, you really ought to be using a truck with at least 8000 lbs towing capacity.Also, you need to be looking at the GVW of the trailer, not the dry weight. Add in drinking water, gray water, black water, batteries, LP tanks, luggage, etc, and you will really need a larger truck. If the GVW of the trailer is around 8000 lbs, you should look at a truck with 10,000 lbs towing.Like it, or not, you really should be looking at Suburbans/Tahoes/Expeditions if you want an SUV to pull the trailer you're considering. In addition to the basic ability to pull the load in a straight line, you need to consider the truck's suspension, brakes, and transmission. You really should have a transmission cooler. Also, you may need to consider using "LT" tires instead of the standard "P" tires that come from the factory on most SUVs. Much stiffer construction, and they perform better towing a load. (harsher ride empty, though).
You could look at the new RAM 1500 diesel, too.
My father-in-law towed a trailer with his Dodge Rampage truck. If you don't remember it was a truck made from cutting down a front wheel drive car. 2.2L 4cyl with 5spd manual. He had a fifth wheel put in the back and he towed a 4000lb trailer with it. Yep. And he could maintain 65mph on the flats in 4th gear. Yes, he did not tow it very much, probably twice a year, a couple hundred miles each trip. He also replaced two clutches in it in 4 years. It was perfect for his needs.
Gary, Since you don't yet have the RV, here's something to consider: Buy a nice used diesel Class A motorhome and tow your Land Rover or Porsche.It's a buyers' market right now on the Class A and large Class C motorhomes, and they will have more than enough tow capacity to haul the dinghy of your choice.
(Taurus, Chrysler 300 etc.) were the typical tow vehicle when I was growing up. Pickups are kinda of a modern upgrade
The Flex has a much better ride, almost the hauling capabilities of a 150,
The Full size cars of the 1960s and 1970s are not the full size cars of today. The cars back then were built on frames and were available with big block engines. We used full size Chevrolets, when I was a kid, to tow our horse trailer. 396 BB and 400 SB power. The trailer was lighter back then, so the full load was probably 4500-5000 lbs, and those late '60s/early'70s Impalas/Caprices would do the job. Even did it with a 1974 Buick LeSabre. We got our first pick up in 1977. Today's cars are weak unibody things that could never do what those old full size cars could do.According to Ford:F150 = Max towing 11,300 lbs, depending upon engine/transmission/rear gearinghttp://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/14FLRV&TT_F150_Sep11.pdfFlex = Max trailer loaded weight 4,000 lbs. Class III hitch package required for loads over 2,000 lbshttp://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/14_flex_sep11.pdf
No argument on the towing limits listed by Ford; but I choose the word "hauling" to mean carrying, not towing. A typical F150, without an upgrade for GVWR will only carry/haul a couple hundred pounds more than a Flex.
Also; for tow ratings, he has found that manufactures tend to grossly under rate the true capabilities of cars, while being a bit optimistic with trucks. Considering what he has done, in the real world, over the years I'm inclined to believe him.
Here you're talking about going to a bigger RV and the wife and I are discussing downsizing to sleeping in a van for our trips :D