Where do you get your 10W-60?

[Green1000S]

After the wildly popular 150 comment oil thread, please post WHERE do you get your 10W-60 motor oil.
I have not been a to to find it locally (that I know of), so mail order might fit some of us well or a motorcycle dealer who usually carries it? I'm sure few of you have found good deals. (Guzzi content)

Please add website and price so rest of us can order a case and join the larger oil thread.

[GuzziPilot]

I finally settled on this:

http://tinyurl.com/md892ma

ENI rebranded their subsidiary AGIP under their own label.....according to them, here:

http://tinyurl.com/qbmnnqj

I shortened the Amazon & ENI links with Tiny URL ........

Cheers!

Lee

[Bill Hagan]

Hurray!  A brazen oil thread in the middle of winter. Thanks.   ;D

As for the merits, my favorite — or, at least, my possibly most used — two words in the English language are: “It depends.”

For my Norge, I buy this: http://tinyurl.com/Norge-Engine-Oil [Yeah, I like tiny url, too, tho I am too lazy sometimes to use it!]

For my Griso, I order “il vero affare” from Jim Barron at Rose Farm Classics: http://www.rosefarmclassics.com

Before AGIP changed names and some U.S. connections, I’d get directly from them, but have found them more difficult to use of late — especially for smaller quantities of, e.g., gear oil -- so I don’t go there now.

RFC and Amazon are both near-instantaneous shippers.  In fact, RFC's delivery was so fast I wondered if Jim and Kacy had some sort of Star Trek beam machine.   :o

Bill

 

[sib]

I get Eni SAE 10W-60 oil from AF1 Racing.  I prefer it to Liqui Moly because it is rated API SG whereas the Liqui Moly is API SL.  This translates to more ZDDP in the Eni, better for the flat tappets in my '13 V7 Stone.  The user's manual for this bike specifies API SG rated SAE 10W-60 oil.

[samfrank]

Thanks for the link for the Norge oil. Just ordered one. That's a great price!
Sam

[Madtownguzzi]

Just go to your local NAPA store for Liquid Moly 10W60. If they do not have it they can order it for you.
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Result.aspx?Ntt%3d10w60%26Ntk%3dKeyword%26Nty%3d1%26Dn%3d0%26D%3d10w60%26Dk%3d1%26Dp%3d3%26N%3d0

[ajonen]

+1 liqui moly 10w 60.
I just buy the regular 10w 60 from amazon since the norge has a dry clutch.

[Bill Hagan]

Just go to your local NAPA store for Liquid Moly 10W60. If they do not have it they can order it for you.

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At my high-school graduation, I crossed the stage with an empty tube on account of failing a math course, so maybe I am still bad at it, but it seems NAPA charges more than that Amazon vendor.  Besides, we live well out in the country, so, especially when free shipping is included, I let Mr. Brown do as much driving as I can.

Besides, I am the proverbial sucker for impulse counters, so even if the oil is cheaper, I cannot leave an auto-parts store without buying several items I didn't know I needed 'til I saw them.  While possible on the web, I seem to succumb to that less on-line.  ::)

Bill

[Lannis]

Just go to your local NAPA store for Liquid Moly 10W60. If they do not have it they can order it for you.
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Result.aspx?Ntt%3d10w60%26Ntk%3dKeyword%26Nty%3d1%26Dn%3d0%26D%3d10w60%26Dk%3d1%26Dp%3d3%26N%3d0

The advantage of a brick-and-mortar store is that they are right there and they have it in stock.

If they DON'T have it in stock, and I have to order it and then drive to the store to pick it up, paying full retail for the privilege, WHY would I not just order it from Amazon at a discount and have Brown bring it to my hand at the back door for free?

Anyway, that's what I do.

Lannis

[Adk.IBO]

Castrol at BMW car dealership. Makes for a nice ride and they always have it. And I've liked Castrol for decades.

[gsf12man]

Red Line from Jeg's, super-fast delivery.

[ken farr]

Liquid Moly.

Amazon.com.

.....and surprisingly the Carquest gear oil in the final drive and trans.  ( I don't know why, but the trans shifts real nice and goes into first with a snick.)

I used to be a Redline oil kind of guy.

kjf

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Amazon Prime w/ free shipping

Or

Order it on LITERALLY ANY auto parts store website, select 'in store pickup' and go pick it up the next day

OR

Go to any BWW car dealer


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[drums4money]

I'd been getting mine straight from the source.  it's bottled from the source in beautiful Cabot, PA. 

American AGIP / Eni.



Products
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1 x RACING 4T 100% SYNTHETIC 10W-60 (Agip Four Stroke Oil)  = $122.86
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Sub-Total: $122.86
United Parcel Service (1 x 30.00lbs) (Ground): $17.73
Total: $140.59

[rodekyll]

I wait till I see it on sale somewhere and buy a case.  When I get the last oil change out of the case I start looking for another.  By the time I need more, I've got it. 

The last time was redline at carquest in Seattle.  Time before it was motul from a ujm store.  I had a case of Castrol 4T waaaay back when that might have come from a West Marine in CT.

[sib]

Castrol at BMW car dealership. Makes for a nice ride and they always have it. And I've liked Castrol for decades.

Great for cars, but that Castrol 10W-60 is API SM, not SG as Moto Guzzi specifies.  Use it if you want, but don't whine when your flat tappets wear prematurely.

[mtiberio]

never nore than $7.50 a liter on EBAY. tons of people selling it, and free shipping...

[Scott of the Sahara]

I go to Moto International and buy it there. They are about 30 or 40 minutes away from me.
I really don't care about how much they charge, I think it is fair, because they have the right stuff. Since it is good for about 5,000 miles, I buy some every year.

[Adk.IBO]

Great for cars, but that Castrol 10W-60 is API SM, not SG as Moto Guzzi specifies.  Use it if you want, but don't whine when your flat tappets wear prematurely.

So I look at what you said, check my owners manual, and under the seat and find no reference to "SG" just 10w60. Whine? Hmm...

[sib]

So I look at what you said, check my owners manual, and under the seat and find no reference to "SG" just 10w60. Whine? Hmm...

Sorry, I was referring to the manual for my '13 V7 Stone.  Could be entirely different for your Norge.

[sib]

So I look at what you said, check my owners manual, and under the seat and find no reference to "SG" just 10w60. Whine? Hmm...

I just looked at all of the Norge user's manuals posted at Guzzitech GB (http://guzzitek.org/gb/accueil_gb.htm) and they all specify API SG.  So, I'm not making this up.

[lucian]

www.eni.com/en_NA/home.html 

[jackson]

I wait till I see it on sale somewhere and buy a case.  When I get the last oil change out of the case I start looking for another.  By the time I need more, I've got it. 

The last time was redline at carquest in Seattle.  Time before it was motul from a ujm store.  I had a case of Castrol 4T waaaay back when that might have come from a West Marine in CT.

I can't find anyone selling the Agip 10w60 by the case for that price.  I went to the ENI site and there's no place to order any products.
Would you please post the link to the exact site where you made this purchase at this price?
Thanks

[Perazzimx14]

After the wildly popular 150 comment oil thread, please post WHERE do you get your 10W-60 motor oil.
I have not been a to to find it locally (that I know of), so mail order might fit some of us well or a motorcycle dealer who usually carries it? I'm sure few of you have found good deals. (Guzzi content)

Please add website and price so rest of us can order a case and join the larger oil thread.

As stated before NAPA. If you are in need ASAP I have a 4 or 5 liter jug you can pick up in Chambersburg tomorrow or Harrisburg on Monday.

[drlapo]

http://www.oilchangekits.com/liqui-moly-racing-4t-10w-60-4-liter.html

[rbm]

Great for cars, but that Castrol 10W-60 is API SM, not SG as Moto Guzzi specifies.  Use it if you want, but don't whine when your flat tappets wear prematurely.

Is this prediction based on theory or empirical data from real-world tappet wear tests?  I don't buy that using an equivalent grade oil, one tested to API SG criteria and another tested to stricter API SM criteria, will cause the extreme wear mentioned.  According to Bob's the Oil Guy Oil University:

That SJ or in particular that SH oil some people are looking for (from their older automotive owners manual) is no where near as good as any SL oil of today. Always use the most currently available, highest rated motor oil, even in the oldest, most worn engine. You may require a thicker grade but just make sure it is SL or SM rated.

Given that advice, SM-conformant oil is preferred over SG-conformant oil.

[sib]

Is this prediction based on theory or empirical data from real-world tappet wear tests?  I don't buy that using an equivalent grade oil, one tested to API SG criteria and another tested to stricter API SM criteria, will cause the extreme wear mentioned.  According to Bob's the Oil Guy Oil University:

That SJ or in particular that SH oil some people are looking for (from their older automotive owners manual) is no where near as good as any SL oil of today. Always use the most currently available, highest rated motor oil, even in the oldest, most worn engine. You may require a thicker grade but just make sure it is SL or SM rated.

Given that advice, SM-conformant oil is preferred over SG-conformant oil.

Bob the oil guy is entitled to his opinion, but so am I.  The API rating is not a performance rating, it is a composition rating.  If the oil is otherwise a modern product (as Eni synthetic 10W-60 surely is), SG will have more anti-wear agent (ZDDP) than SM and will be just as good otherwise.  The more recent API grades with lower ZDDP are intended to extend the life of catalytic converters, at the expense of lower amounts of some anti-wear agents.

It's been almost 20 years since the API SG standard was superseded by higher lettered API standards, and yet Moto Guzzi continues to recommend SG and Eni continues to produce it.  This is not a case of inertia or tradition, nor of marketing.

[lucian]

On the ENI site you have to click on lubricants, then click on automotive, then bikes and on the right side of the page there is a contact option, phone or e mail. I just called them and ordered a case of gp 10w60. Very nice customer service people. There may be an easier way but that's how I have done it.

[Daniel Kalal]

Sometime back, I received this reply from Caludio Pucci after I emailed him:



Please call 724-352- 4451 and they should be able to ship the oil to the address you provide.  If you have any problems or questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me back.

Thanks again!

Claudio Pucci
Northeast Area Manager
Eni USA R&M Co Inc 

[Luap McKeever]

Guzzi calls for SG oil. More precisely, the owners manual for my 2012 Stelvio NTX says "USE HIGH-QUALITY 10W - 60 OIL." 
SAE 10W - 60. As an alternative to recommended fluids, use top branded oils with performances that meet or exceed the requirements of CCMC G-4 API. SG
specifications.

So, before I started using Castrol Edge 10w60 SJ/CF, I decided to look up the classifications of this oil to ensure it would be ok to use in my bike.  Based on the below information, I don't really see anything special with SG oil, since it has been in basically every oil since 1989.  It would appear to me that SJ meets and far exceeds SG classification. 

"S" – SPARK IGNITION (Gasoline, Propane, CNG)
SG = Service typical of gasoline engines beginning with the 1989 model year.
SJ = 1997 SJ may be used where API Service Classifications SH.
SH = 1994 provides improved control of engine deposits, oxidation and engine wear relative to oils developed for previous categories.

Further confirmation from my dealer was enough to seal the deal.  I have always used Castrol in my bikes, and like stated by others, I can simply go to my BMW dealer and $12 per quart later, have all the oil I need.