First Look 2016 Moto Guzzi

[Red07]

http://s152.photobucket.com/user/ndicroce/media/audace800b_zpsaa77623e.jpg.html

Red Audace

Randy

I don't think my link is working.  It has been posted here before.  Some pics it looks reddish, some pics it looks like it has a little orange in it.  Or google Audace and it will come up.

Could someone post a pic of it?  Really is a sweet looking ride.

Thanks

[Kev m]

http://s152.photobucket.com/user/ndicroce/media/audace800b_zpsaa77623e.jpg.html

Red Audace

Randy

Ooohh, I stand corrected. I missed that one, thanks for the link!

I like that better....

[nellborg]

Drumsformoney's Eldorado looks great.  I'd take one that looked like that only with updated 2015 technology, but not a cruiser Eldorado.  Retro-standard I like.  Retro-cruiser - not so much.

[jas67]

Love the red...but about 300 pounds more than I can ever handle..

When I rode the Cali 1400, I was impressed with how it didn't feel as heavy as it is.

My Breva 1100 feels heavier to stand up off the side stand than the 150# heavier 1400 does.

[jas67]

Could someone post a pic of it?  Really is a sweet looking ride.

[wavedog]

At Bike week I had the opportunity to sit on the Custom, Tour, Audace, and the Eldo. The Audace looks better in person than in photos and is actually quite comfortable, but for me I just can't get past the looks. The Custom would be ok for short rides but I couldn't see a long term relationship forming. The Tour was great. The thing that surprised me was that the Eldo seemed to fit the best of all. Perhaps due to a slight seat difference. I am looking forward to riding one in the future to see how the 16 inch wheels and slightly narrower rear tire make the bike handle. The Eldo looks really good in person and the headlight is not as offensive as one might think from the photos. It actually works with the lines of the bike. It made the taillight look a little too retro. I could see myself enjoying a long term relationship with the Tour if I hadn't seen the Eldo.
 As far as the weight goes, I was a little hesitant to ride the Cali 1400 but the weight turned out to be a false issue. Being rather medium of stature and due to health not very strong I was surprised at how quickly I bonded with the 1400 Tour. The bike was easy to roll around and a joy to ride in all conditions that I experienced on the demo ride. An impressive machine.
I was told at the Guzzi tent that the Eldo would be released sometime during the summer of this year. Maybe.

[flip]

I *am* the problem. There's no freakin way that I'd ever buy a cruiser. Period.

 :+1

[Perazzimx14]

So now we are into 2016 and still no new LeMans.  Really?

Or Convert! :o.

[ritratto]

For all you guys looking for a "new" LeMans.... Forget about it... Piaggio has turned Guzzi into the "cruiser" line and Aprilla into the "sport" line....  doubt it will change anytime soon. No proof, other than the obvious.

[Jerryd]

At Bike week I had the opportunity to sit on the Custom, Tour, Audace, and the Eldo. The Audace looks better in person than in photos and is actually quite comfortable, but for me I just can't get past the looks. The Custom would be ok for short rides but I couldn't see a long term relationship forming. The Tour was great. The thing that surprised me was that the Eldo seemed to fit the best of all. Perhaps due to a slight seat difference. I am looking forward to riding one in the future to see how the 16 inch wheels and slightly narrower rear tire make the bike handle. The Eldo looks really good in person and the headlight is not as offensive as one might think from the photos. It actually works with the lines of the bike. It made the taillight look a little too retro. I could see myself enjoying a long term relationship with the Tour if I hadn't seen the Eldo.
 As far as the weight goes, I was a little hesitant to ride the Cali 1400 but the weight turned out to be a false issue. Being rather medium of stature and due to health not very strong I was surprised at how quickly I bonded with the 1400 Tour. The bike was easy to roll around and a joy to ride in all conditions that I experienced on the demo ride. An impressive machine.
I was told at the Guzzi tent that the Eldo would be released sometime during the summer of this year. Maybe.

Interesting. As I mentioned in the other 1400 thread, I spoke to the folks in New York by phone last week and they said there were no plans to bring the Eldorado to the U.S. in 2015.

[wavedog]

Interesting. As I mentioned in the other 1400 thread, I spoke to the folks in New York by phone last week and they said there were no plans to bring the Eldorado to the U.S. in 2015.

Well, I certainly would not accept what I was told at the demo's as gospel. Wishful thinking on my part I guess. I know that faith precedes the miracle, but when it comes to the Eldo in this country I will believe it when I see it.

[Perazzimx14]

For all you guys looking for a "new" LeMans.... Forget about it... Piaggio has turned Guzzi into the "cruiser" line and Aprilla into the "sport" line....  doubt it will change anytime soon. No proof, other than the obvious.

I don't disagree but the real obvious is unless Guzzi can make a lightweight 150 HP sport bike its dead in the water. Even if they can make a 150 HP light weight sports bike its still dead in the water. 99% of people who know, own/owned and love the brand are too old for a sports bike and would be lookers not buyers. 

[wyrtyr2]

The 2016 LeMans does not need to be a 150 HP lightweight sport bike, like the BMW S1000R.  In fact, the bike could find a niche quite nicely at 110 HP, great MG pedigree, and up to date components.  Just look at the new BMW R1200RS for concept ideas.  Why is this vision so hard?  Many of the most loyal MG fans came into the fold thru the LeMans model and continue to wait, and wait.....  And I'm not fifties any more-I refuse to succumb to the ridiculous cruiser retirement mentality.  Id rather save up and buy a used 911.

[Jerryd]

Well, I certainly would not accept what I was told at the demo's as gospel. Wishful thinking on my part I guess. I know that faith precedes the miracle, but when it comes to the Eldo in this country I will believe it when I see it.

That's why I called the main office in New York. The folks I spoke to at the demo tent at Bike Week weren't very clear on the subject.

[Joliet Jim]

The 2016 LeMans does not need to be a 150 HP lightweight sport bike, like the BMW S1000R.  In fact, the bike could find a niche quite nicely at 110 HP, great MG pedigree, and up to date components.  Just look at the new BMW R1200RS for concept ideas.  Why is this vision so hard?  Many of the most loyal MG fans came into the fold thru the LeMans model and continue to wait, and wait.....  And I'm not fifties any more-I refuse to succumb to the ridiculous cruiser retirement mentality.  Id rather save up and buy a used 911.

Not to disagree, but i would think most MG fans came into the fold on Californias, at least that's what seemed to be at rallies when i still could find time to attend them.

On a side note, I may try to get to the local MG dealer in Downers Grove to check out the Green racer. pics on cycle trader.

[JeffOlson]

Moto Guzzi makes some great cruisers, but they are not just a manufacturer of cruisers. Their largest selling bike in terms of unit sales is the V7, which is more of a classic bike. (They also make a great adventure bike and a great sport tourer).

They would be foolish to ditch everything but cruisers and, indeed, they are not. They have revitalized the V7 range with the V7 II and will be offering kits to customize those bikes. Clearly, they have noticed Triumph's tremendous success with their modern classic line of bikes and the huge supply of after-market parts and accessories for that line. (Check out British Customs, in particular.)

[Tom]

Add a Vetter fairing to the Eldo 1400 and now you'd have a touring bike.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[jas67]

Moto Guzzi makes some great cruisers, but they are not just a manufacturer of cruisers. Their largest selling bike in terms of unit sales is the V7, which is more of a classic bike. (They also make a great adventure bike and a great sport tourer).

They would be foolish to ditch everything but cruisers and, indeed, they are not. They have revitalized the V7 range with the V7 II and will be offering kits to customize those bikes. Clearly, they have noticed Triumph's tremendous success with their modern classic line of bikes and the huge supply of after-market parts and accessories for that line. (Check out British Customs, in particular.)

Bikes like the California appeal to a, well, mature (as in age, not behavior) crowd.    Piaggio know this.    The V7 is their ticket to the younger buyer -- dare I say, the "hipsters", and other younger people who want a distinctive bike with style, and aren't as concerned about all-out performance as the squids in their age group.

Hopefully, as this market segment move up through the age and social-economic ranks, Moto Guzzi offers some up-scale bikes such as a big block classic as we've all wished for "V12", etc.      Aprilia is the proper brand for the S1000RR type bikes, they make some good sport bikes.   Moto Guzzi's has a good niche with bikes like the V7 and the Griso.     The BMW they need to answer is the Nine T.    THAT is a BMW that really gets my juices flowing.      Now, if Moto Guzzi were to mask a similar bike with the 8V big block (1200, as the 1400 is overkill) and similar, but, more Italian styling, they'd have a hit, and I'd buy one!

As has been discussed over, and over,  :beat_horse, I'm really hoping for a V7 III with 65-70 HP.   I like the improvements of the V7 II (V7 2.0), but, not enough to trade up from my V7 V1.5 (2013-2015 US).    The improvements from 1.0 (2009-2012) where enough to get me to upgrade, but, this time, I'm waiting for version 3.0.

[Kev m]

Jay, I think you forget that people have varied tastes.

I bought my first Harley by 25, and my Road King by 28.

I know it's popular to think all "kids" like sportbikes and people don't ride cruisers until they're "old". But it's not that black and white.

[jas67]

Jay, I think you forget that people have varied tastes.

I bought my first Harley by 25, and my Road King by 28.

I know it's popular to think all "kids" like sportbikes and people don't ride cruisers until they're "old". But it's not that black and white.

Yes, I know it isn't all black and white, but, a much higher percentage of cruiser buyers are older.     And, I have several friends who are the age of typical Moto Guzzi owner who buy and ride sport bikes.

I would still venture to say that the V7 series appeals to more younger riders than most cruisers.

On the cruiser end of the spectrum, it seems that younger buyers are more attracted to the bobber style bikes like the Bolt, and the "48".    Buy saying that, I don't mean that they ALL would have the same tastes.

[Kev m]

No Jay, you missed my point. I'll venture you have no facts to back up that guess (I.e. a much higher %).

Younger riders make up the smallest portion of the US street bike market. As such you would expect to see more older riders in any segment of it. And you'll tend to see and associate with those who like the types of bikes you do.

I do agree younger riders will probably trend towards a V7, 48, or Bolt more than a Cali or RK just based on simple economics.

But that doesn't mean the differences between sportbike and cruiser sales are significant in any one age category.

[rocker59]

Interesting. As I mentioned in the other 1400 thread, I spoke to the folks in New York by phone last week and they said there were no plans to bring the Eldorado to the U.S. in 2015.

All the 2015 USA Guzzis have been built.

Any additional arrivals will be 2016s.

[rocker59]

Not to disagree, but i would think most MG fans came into the fold on Californias, at least that's what seemed to be at rallies when i still could find time to attend them.

You have to remember that rallies and campouts only give you an idea of what people ride to rallies and campouts.  Over the past 20-years, versions of the Tonti California have been the most popular bike in attendance.  Even after the CARC bikes started outselling the Tonti California in the showrooms years ago, the Tonti California remained the main bike at rallies and campouts.  I submit that what you have there is an anomaly, and does not represent what Guzzis are selling in showrooms.

I came into the fold because of the LeMans III and IV.  I came into the fold on a carb'd Sport 1100.  I have owned six Guzzis and still have my first one, the Sport 1100.

So, there are those of us out there who enjoy sporting Guzzis and would like to see another in the lineup.  I do not want a superbike contender.  Just a nice sporting Guzzi in the vein of the spine-frame bikes of the '90s and '00s.

[bad Chad]

Guzzi needs an answer to the Nine T?   I doubt there would be a 9 T if not for the Griso!

[Nic in Western NYS]

Would like to see the Burnt Turd color scheme on a Stelvio.

[Kev m]

Guzzi needs an answer to the Nine T?   I doubt there would be a 9 T if not for the Griso!

Good point...

[Kent in Upstate NY]

Don't you guys have lives, or is the snow still thick on the ground?

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Guzzi needs an answer to the Nine T?   I doubt there would be a 9 T if not for the Griso!

That was exactly my thought?? The Nine T looks like a GRiSO clone..


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[Nic in Western NYS]

Don't you guys have lives, or is the snow still thick on the ground?

Yup. 2-3 feet of snow still on the yard. No life.

[lucian]

Thee r9t is just a Griso with saggy jugs. And a board for a seat.