Will a Norge fairing fit on a 2007 750 Breva

[drdwb]

I have found a very nice 2007 750 Breva which I am thinking about purchasing for my wonderful wife and riding companion. We've been riding  together (separate bikes ) since 79. She currently rides a  2004 California 1100 Stone,which is a perfectly good ride after we modified the height and got it debugged. But a 2 years ago she bought me a 2007 Norge which I am totally in love with. So I wanted to do something nice for her in return and get her a Norge also,but she doesn't like the weight of my Norge, Thus We've been looking at Breva's, but the Breva while being a very nimble and completely enjoyable ride it lacks a decent touring fairing. So I was wondering if anyone had tried mounting a Norge fairing to the little Breva, or if anyone had found a suitable Sport Touring fairing  for the Breva?
Any suggestions?
Dave

[timonbik]

 I have a 2008 Breva 750 and will be following your thread with interest as I am also in the market for a touring fairing.  I asked the question of what will work on the 750 a couple of weeks back but unfortunately not too many suggestions.  The most popular fairing/windshield was the Givi 755 but unfortunately has been discontinued.  Good luck,  Tim

[canuguzzi]

There is a guy in So California that makes really nice ST fairings. They come in the white ready for paint. Search for V65 fairing, it might come up.

[canuguzzi]

Also see if you can find a Quicksilver fairing made by Vetter. They were great fairings, a bit more angular than the Windjammer but offered really good protection. It would look really good on a small Breva.

Probably pretty cheap if you can find one. Making up a mounting bracket should be straightforward.

I had one on a CX500 and really liked it. And image search will show you how it looks.

There are some on EBay, about $125.  There is a buy it now NOS for $139, well worth it. It had nifty little side pockets for small item storage.

[drdwb]

Thank you for the V65 fairing lead Norge Pilot, It's funny 36 years ago  my wife had the Vetter fairing on her first bike a  79 Yamaha 400 Special, it was a decent fairing and I looked at some of those recently on E-bay some going for around $100..00 it's an option,I'd like to see a photo shop version to see what it might look like and if the lines clashed.
But there was a brief thread on the Guzzi Tech small block  area (OEM full fairing Breva 750
Discussion in 'Small Block' started by GBreva750, Jul 27, 2012.)  and on it were a couple pics of very cool full fairing  Breva 750 police bikes from Europe  which appeared to be slightly smaller versions of the Norge but they looked beautiful, problem was at the time no one could locate the actual manufacture,I tried following the leads but got no where.  So the search is on, I know this probably sounds dumb, but I'm not going to purchase the bike until I find a decent fairing. I'd like this to be a unique bike for her. I know I'm being snobbish here,but, in our area surrounded by belly button Harley's  ( nothing against the brand )I really enjoy riding  all day and rarely seeing another bike like mine.

[canuguzzi]

If MG came out with a tweener Norge or ADV in the 850cc range I'd create a one man stampeed to get one. Horsepower doesn't mean too much to me although I wouldn't pass up more ponies, usable power rules.

Someone in the Bay Area has a beautiful 750 Breva that sometimes keeps me awake at night thinking about just running over to pick it up ( its on CL) and has me debating the Quicksilver fairing for it. I have a lot of unrelated projects now or I'd have picked up that Breva. What a wonderful weekender bike it would make and with a Quicksilver fairing, the perfect coastal runner.

[rocker59]

Personally, I think it would be easier and better looking to source the factory Breva 750 full fairing from Europe.

[oldbike54]

Personally, I think it would be easier and better looking to source the factory Breva 750 full fairing from Europe.

 Those are really nice .

  Dusty

[charlie b]

But, they arent that easy to find.  Part of the reason I ended up with an SPIII fairing shipped from France (Reboot)

[Arizona Wayne]

I have a Rifle Sport fairing on my 750 Breva.  It's my 3rd Guzzi to have the same fairing(CX100, Convert.,  750 Breva).  If that isn't a testimonial I don't know what is. http://www.rifle.com.  They're made in California for many decades.     I always use the 15" tall windshield but you have options.

[drdwb]

Rocker  yes that's the fairing I'm looking for, If you or anyone else can find the source pleas let me know, I've been looking  off/on for a couple weeks with out any headway.
Norge Pilot the 850 Norge is or was an option available in Europe according to Doug the Guzzi dealer I Watertown SD, but he also said it was exactly like the 1100 model that we get just lower cc for the European insurance  brackets. All the specs were identical except cc. I don't think my 07 would be quite as much fun as an 850.
Dave

[rocker59]

Rocker  yes that's the fairing I'm looking for, If you or anyone else can find the source pleas let me know, I've been looking  off/on for a couple weeks with out any headway.
Norge Pilot the 850 Norge is or was an option available in Europe according to Doug the Guzzi dealer I Watertown SD, but he also said it was exactly like the 1100 model that we get just lower cc for the European insurance  brackets. All the specs were identical except cc. I don't think my 07 would be quite as much fun as an 850.
Dave

850 and 1100 Grisos, Brevas, Norges are the same.  Difference in engine displacement is thanks to a short throw crankshaft.

[taz]

My wife has a little Breva and want's more protection also.  I think there is a market for the European "police" fairing here in the US. 

[Arizona Wayne]

So you guys want a good Guzzi fairing but it has to be an unobtainium factory fairing for a US 750 Breva.    I'll bet even if you could get 1 of the euro police bike full fairings you would balk at the price.

[Cool Runnings]

Moto Guzzi Norge 850 Police  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hUQBnspTXE

[drdwb]

Charlie B Ive been thinking about an SP  lll fairing but they also are quite rare,at least I haven't seen used ones on e-bay or the Guzzi owners page recently, could you post a picture of your bike.
Wayne I'd also like to see pictures of your bike with the Rifle fairing. In the end she gets to decide if she'd be happy with it. And your probably right about the price preventing the purchase of a European fairing, the cost of shipping it here is probably more than I'd care to spend, and since the cost of Breva I'm looking at is around $3500 it would be silly to spend more for the fairing than the bike cost. But sometimes paying for cool is ok,it just comes down to how much is too much. Maybe it would be cheaper to go to Italy and find a used one and ship it back, I can just imagen the nightmare that might be..

[canuguzzi]

If itbhas to be the Norge fairing, buy one of the Euro police bikes and swap parts. Gonna cost you that much one way or the other.

Surely they sell them after some years in service.

[rocker59]

Price a consideration?

VETTER !!!

Lots of 'em laying around, awaiting a second life !!!

 

[timonbik]

Had a Windjammer III on my 72 R75/5 and a windjammer IV on my KZ1000ST and loved them, especially the IV but getting brackets  for a Breva 750 could be somewhat problematic.  Lowers could also be an issue.  I'm somewhat mechanical but brazing up a Vetter fairing mount would be a bit of a stretch!!! Could take a lot of trial and error and speed wobbles could also become an issue.

[Arizona Wayne]

Had a Windjammer III on my 72 R75/5 and a windjammer IV on my KZ1000ST and loved them, especially the IV but getting brackets  for a Breva 750 could be somewhat problematic.  Lowers could also be an issue.  I'm somewhat mechanical but brazing up a Vetter fairing mount would be a bit of a stretch!!! Could take a lot of trial and error and speed wobbles could also become an issue.

Not only that, old Vetter fairings are heavy and wide.  My Rifle Sport fairing is just the right width and much lighter.  It's mounting brackets are adaptable to any MC.   

No, I don't get any commission from Rifle for recommending them, but I've used them on my bikes (3 Guzzis) for decades.  That alone should tell you something. 

[canuguzzi]

Not only that, old Vetter fairings are heavy and wide.  My Rifle Sport fairing is just the right width and much lighter.  It's mounting brackets are adaptable to any MC.   

No, I don't get any commission from Rifle for recommending them, but I've used them on my bikes (3 Guzzis) for decades.  That alone should tell you something. 

The Quicksilver is about as light as the Rifle but is frame mounted. It is about the same size but offers more than just a molded shell.

[Arizona Wayne]

The Quicksilver is about as light as the Rifle but is frame mounted. It is about the same size but offers more than just a molded shell.

The  Quicksilver hasn't been made for years and the Rifle Sport fairing is still in production and is actually a 2/3 fairing.  It protects me from my helmet lower half(by choice) to my knees in cold weather.  In hot weather you spread your legs a little bit and any jug heat is a non issue.  I guarantee you the Quicksilver weighs more than a Rifle Sport fairing.

[Vasco DG]

The 750 Breva is a small block and completely different to the Norges of any capacity which use the big block and six speed/CARC architecture with the big Breva/Norge/Sport frame.

Yes, of course you could make anything fit given enough time and money but it wouldn't work very well, its proportions would be all wrong and it would render the baby B a totally gutless and evil handling slug unless you poured a lot of money into the suspension and then it would still be a gutless slug!

pete

[charlie b]

Charlie B Ive been thinking about an SP  lll fairing but they also are quite rare,at least I haven't seen used ones on e-bay or the Guzzi owners page recently, could you post a picture of your bike.

Here is mine.



It was just over $600.  About $150 of that was shipping from Reboot in France.  I found one in the states, but, the seller disappeared before I could contact him. 

Yes, I did cut off the bottom half.  Why?  First, I welded on the mounting lugs in the wrong place by about an inch.  That meant the lowers would not fit properly (yes, this could have been fixed).  Second, owners of SPIII's reported how hot they were, with air from cylinders being directed over the legs (even with the 3/4 length I get more hot air on my legs than before).  Third, there is not much room between the pegs and lowers on mine.  If I lived in colder climate than I would be tempted to leave them on.

Yes, it adds weight to the front of the bike.  But, it also makes it a bit more aerodynamic at speed.  My bike is not a great handling bike, but, it fits my needs.  And the 850 engine is not a total slouch, but, it is not fast.

FYI, buying one from a wreck means doing something about the instrument panel.  You could leave your instruments where they are and just cut a clearance.  Maybe make a glove box in the instrument panel location.

Also, keep in mind that the T5 and SPIII were very similar, almost identical.  So, it is not surprising it fits well, down to the rectangular headlight being the same size on both.

[Roebling3]

CharlieB's fairing looks to be an  http://www.pichler.de/kunstdorff.com  fairing.  Pichler makes fairings for bmw airheads & a few K models. I had a full Pichler on one of the R-65's. Very top heavy on that bike. I don't think Pichler makes a fairing for MG's, but you may want to ask.  www.airtech-streamlining.com builds replacement Guzzi fairings, plus others you may consider. I  have found Airtech to be easy to deal with.  I've purchased race fairings from them.  You might also look @ www.bikescreen.com  AKA  Gustaffson Plastics, in FL 904-824-3443.  R3~