Monza porn

[Chuck in Indiana]

No, not mine. New member Kurtis said it was ok to post these of his after he restored it several years ago. He tells me that it is the one bike he should have never sold. 

img063 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
img062 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
img061 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr

[Muzz]

Nice. So, when do we see the photos of your newly fettled addition to the fleet?

Must admit that it looked pretty good anyway.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Well, Muzz.. mine isn't fettled at all.  It *does* appear to be totally original, though. I'm scrounging decals as we speak for an eventual restoration. Kurtis did an exemplary job on his..

[agoldfish]

Well, mine isnt restored or even stock but is getting plenty of use.

Bought as crash damaged, then another crash, then a gearbox return spring faliure have kept the old girl in the Garage quite a bit the last two years. But she is back on her (newlt painted) wheels and running beautifully!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chris900ssie/albums/72157664838650636

Chris

[Chuck in Indiana]

Looks like a rider.. thanks, Chris. 

[Devildog]

Kurtis, I hope you sold her for a lot of money. She is a beauty.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Kurtis, I hope you sold her for a lot of money. She is a beauty.

Kurtis told me to take very good care of my original seat cover. They are unobtainium. Mine looks just like his except the red is several different shades from sitting in the sun. The black is faded beyond saving. The black decals on the fairing are bubbling, as is the paint. Pretty common stuff, and easily taken care of. I have all the decals now, including the rare blaze orange pieces on the fairing. The V50 Monza decals are back ordered, but available. I've learned from years of antique airplane restoration that if you think you might need it and it's available, just get it. 

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

A customer's Monza, here last June for recommissioning after a long hibernation. Fairing was repainted due to the original paint and decals literally falling off and several cracks at screw holes.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Nice, Charlie.. thanks.
That does it. I can't stand it. I'm not supposed to do *anything* physical yet, and that includes fooling with a motorcycle, but Dorcia isn't here,  and pushing around a Monza is about as tough as pushing a bicycle.
I'll roll it out after lunch and show some details of my new to me Monza.

[Triple Jim]

A customer's Monza, here last June for recommissioning after a long hibernation. Fairing was repainted due to the original paint and decals literally falling off and several cracks at screw holes.

And I see new Avon Roadriders... nice.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Looked over my shoulder, and the boss isn't here, so rolled the Monza out for a few pix. 
Well, duh.. it's bright outside, should have turned on the flash, but you get a feel for how narrow they are.
1-001 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
Non standard Tarozzi fork brace and steering damper. The steering damper is well thought out, and a Guzzi part. No damage to the motorcycle installing it. See the decals on the calipers? (!) Not bad for 34 years old. Wheels are perfect.
2-002 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
Very nice restorable original exhaust. Most are rusted out by now.. again, wheels are perfect. Noticed the original owner made an aluminum bracket so he didn't have to put the registration sticker on the bike? 
3-003 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
View from the cockpit.. I likes it.  Everything works including all the indicator lamps. Heated grips aren't standard, of course, but easily removable.
4-004 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
It's the first *nice* day of the year. Would I absolutely *love* to take it for a ride? Uhh.. yeah. 
5-005 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
When the Kid delivered the bike, I saw him looking at my tri color reflector with lust in his heart. I told him, "Put down the screwdriver, back away from the machine, and nobody gets hurt.." 
6-006 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
The mail girl just delivered more stuff. New stainless valves <shrug> why not? and more decals. Two more decals, and I'll have them all.
7-008 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
I love it when a plan comes together.

[arveno]

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/5530405947.html

[Guido Valvole]

Nice way to start the afternoon before going out to see about putting individual choke levers on my Monza or more likely (since the Monza still has the original pig of an airbox that takes up all available space and then some) putting the individual choke levers on the V50 (with K&Ns) and transferring the choke/enrichener assembly over to the Monza. Lever there is worn out, PITA for cold starting.

So were the day-go stripes standard or just lifted from a Le Mans?

agoldfish/Chris -- nice! Looks even smaller with the round light and flyscreen. Is that off the Racer? What are the mufflers from? And who has crash bars? I'd prefer those to head guards but haven't seen any.

Ok, lunch done, wrenching time!
cr

[Chuck in Indiana]

So were the day-go stripes standard or just lifted from a Le Mans?

I *think* they were standard. I was looking for the day glo stripes for the Lario last winter, and a fellow antiquer sent me a pair along with the Monza stripes. I didn't know what they were, and he told me they were for the Monza. Fred knows his stuff, so I imagine he knows what he's talking about.
Of course, Kurtis's lovely restoration has them.

[pete roper]

It looks like a nice, clean, unmollested Monza. Good score. Wise move on the valves too. Just don't overdo it Chuck. We don't want all your gizzards dropping out through over-enthusiasm.

Pete

[Chuck in Indiana]

It looks like a nice, clean, unmollested Monza. Good score. Wise move on the valves too. Just don't overdo it Chuck. We don't want all your gizzards dropping out through over-enthusiasm.

Pete

Thanks, Pete.. I *did* over do a little today. Even had an "outing." Old people have those.. we went out to eat for the first time. First gorgeous day of the year.

[kevdog3019]

Talk to me about those valves!!  You didn't...??  No way an antiquer would do what I think you did.

[canuck750]

That is a beautiful bike Chuck.
Twice in the last year I have seen one in town going the other way, wish I could catch up the owner one day and find out the history of it.

[Danpw]

Their a lovely bike to ride, had mine out last Sunday for a couple of hundred K's.

You need to keep up with the leg squats if your not riding it much

Dan

[huub]

lovely bike!
this one has really been loved by previous owners.
if you change the valves, change the valve springs too to the new single springs.
with a little efford and a small file they can be fitted using the original retainers

[Chuck in Indiana]

Their a lovely bike to ride, had mine out last Sunday for a couple of hundred K's.

You need to keep up with the leg squats if your not riding it much

Dan

Thanks, Dan.. I've posted here before that when I was just a young lad in my 60s that I was getting too old for sport bikes. I thought I was in pretty good shape for an old guy, but a personal trainer thought otherwise. 
He said, "your core strength sucks. I'll have you back on sport bikes and bicycles in no time."
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger  but he was right.  I need to get back to the exercise regimen as soon as the cutter lets me.

[Danpw]

Chuck when he lets you, start spending some of your great workshop time with the bike bench on a low setting and work squating on you haunches. It does wonders as a "hidden" excersise.

Dan

[kurtis]

Kurtis, I hope you sold her for a lot of money. She is a beauty.

DDog,$4500 seems to stick in my head.  That was probably about 20 years ago though.  I had sold it to Peter and Nancy McNulty who I believe may have been the New Jersey Reps back then.  Does anyone here know them and have any idea if they still have that
Monza, and if not, where it ended up?

I see the Washington DC one is posted at that.  It appears to be a little bit more worn than Chuck's and so Chuck, I think you stole that one.  I think you owe Brad that tri-color reflector, but who am I to get in the middle of someone else's family affairs?

Chuck, thanks for posting the pics.  I do not see any of the day glow stickers on the other pictures posted in this post yet.  Wonder if they all had them or not now, but I do no that the factory couldn't make the paint stick to the plastic fairing and so I wonder if most or all of them had been repainted at some point.  Once the paint has been removed, you'll notice that the plastic is like glass.  i.e. high glass fill properties.  Not sure where you found the day glow stickers, but at least now you'll be proper.  I had mentioned to you over the phone about the headlight.  My fuzzy memory is now thinking that the proper one that was made to fit the fairing and seal properly in the gasket may have been a match to a LeMans III.  May want to look into it.  I see in Charley's pics that that one does not have one and not many people knew about the fact that there was another Guzzi one stateside that would fit right.

Have a nice day(glow)!

[SED]

Great photos Chuck and Kurtis, Chris and Charlie!   

So were the day-go stripes standard or just lifted from a Le Mans?

The original owner's manual has a picture showing the stripes on the Monza, but not the V35 Imola.  Mine has the day-glo stripes and bubbling black decals so must be original.   

Charlie,  Your customer should have you install a fork brace - it really changes the feeling of those spindly forks.  (my mtn bike has the same size fork legs!)  I got mine from Fast from the Past for less than $120.  But don't go by the application - measure the forks (Monza either doesn't show up or it's too big).  I got 30-0014 for a Benelli 125 sport and still needed 0.010" shim stock to clamp to the legs correctly.  Pretty sure that is the smallest they make.  http://www.fastfromthepast.com/fork-braces

A couple more - though they've been posted here before.




    Fun!

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Great photos Chuck and Kurtis, Chris and Charlie!   

The original owner's manual has a picture showing the stripes on the Monza, but not the V35 Imola.  Mine has the day-glo stripes and bubbling black decals so must be original.   

Charlie,  Your customer should have you install a fork brace - it really changes the feeling of those spindly forks.  (my mtn bike has the same size fork legs!)  I got mine from Fast from the Past for less than $120.  But don't go by the application - measure the forks (Monza either doesn't show up or it's too big).  I got 30-0014 for a Benelli 125 sport and still needed 0.010" shim stock to clamp to the legs correctly.  Pretty sure that is the smallest they make.  http://www.fastfromthepast.com/fork-braces

"Betsy" has owned the one I posted photos of since new and told me it never had day-glo stripes. Also, I wonder why the two I've had here both had chrome exhausts and y'all's is black?

Jeffrey's Monza, 2008:

[SED]

Also, I wonder why the two I've had here both had chrome exhausts and y'all's is black?

The chrome pipes were scratched and had a scrape and I don't much like chrome so I had them powder coated.
Also removed the license bracket, shortened the rear fender and painted and the taillight it to match the top of the tank so that it looks a little more like the LeMons. 

  Weird about the orange - stripe.  It shows in this brochure too:

[Guido Valvole]

I'm thinking that the dayglo stickers were used as available. What's on the shelf, Luigi? Use that...
cr

[Chuck in Indiana]

I'm thinking that the dayglo stickers were used as available. What's on the shelf, Luigi? Use that...
cr

Well, we *are* talking about Guzzi here.  Ya gotta love em..

[Chuck in Indiana]

Talk to me about those valves!!  You didn't...??  No way an antiquer would do what I think you did.

Just standard, although stainless, Monza valves. The Lario isn't the only old small block that would drop them. The Lario was just much better at it.  Guzzi changed to the progressively wound single spring, and that seemed to cure it. The modern small block's valve train is reliable.
It just seems to me that a preemptive strike is the logical thing to do. The new valves are cheap, and it's dead simple to change them out.

[John A]

Yeah, that is good porn!