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123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« on: March 11, 2018, 09:41:42 AM »
Like, I don't believe it, that kind of unbelievable:

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2018, 09:58:44 AM »
maybe that's metric HP?
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 10:10:13 AM »
it's just the green ones that are faster
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 10:18:08 AM »
All it takes is $$$$$
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 10:18:08 AM »

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 10:30:20 AM »
All it takes is $$$$$

I guess, but what does a flux capacitor cost?
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2018, 10:32:33 AM »
All it takes is $$$$$

 Hmm , so they are literally burning money ? Who knew ? Maybe that's how a certain West coast guy is getting 230 HP out of that 1400  :laugh:

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2018, 10:58:07 AM »
it's just the green ones that are faster

True.. true.  :smiley: Except for the dark ones, of course.
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 11:05:18 AM »
I wish there was more info on what was done to the engine. If it’s big bore with head work and cams I think the horsepower numbers could be correct. Just saying....
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM »
Maybe...I wonder if the torque curve had already started to fall off big-time...and, will it make that on a different dyno? 

The 'big reveal' of the HP figure was kind of abrupt...just sayin'  :cool:

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2018, 11:18:00 AM »
Hmm , so they are literally burning money ? Who knew ? Maybe that's how a certain West coast guy is getting 230 HP out of that 1400  :laugh:

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I thought he posted 140+, but the next one w/blower is said to be 275
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2018, 11:24:00 AM »
I wish there was more info on what was done to the engine. If it’s big bore with head work and cams I think the horsepower numbers could be correct. Just saying....
You may be able to find out if you go to his blog---- GuzziRacer.com     
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2018, 11:26:01 AM »
two words:

bull shit
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2018, 11:29:41 AM »
I thought he posted 140+, but the next one w/blower is said to be 275

 Yeah , 275 , which of course seems a bit inflated also  :shocked: :rolleyes:

 I am having a hard time believing an honest 123 HP from a 2 valve 1100 that remains remotely streetable , maybe with NOS it would be realistic for short periods .

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 11:47:38 AM »
Every Dyno is different also. My friends Griso 1100 is putting out 112 at the rear.
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2018, 12:07:20 PM »
I recall that the Swallower Guzzi team in Holland was getting a number not unlike this from a full race non-streetable 2V engine in the 1990s...  I also recall them explaining to me that it used to break crankshafts repetitively.

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2018, 02:16:52 PM »
dog-year horsepower
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2018, 02:28:56 PM »
Perhaps someone has found Enzo's (remember him?) bike with it's homebuilt Cobra exhaust. :grin:
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2018, 04:19:51 PM »
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2018, 04:25:24 PM »
I guess because of the low sales numbers with Moto Guzzi that there is very little interest in quality performance companies making hot rod parts. I own a Hayabusa and the hod rod parts made in the states is endless and the same for HD products. It would be interesting to see a company like APE or Vance and Hines show interest in making Guzzi parts. With a performance crank and rods , big bore etc I think these engines would rip!!
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2018, 04:30:12 PM »
It's a one litre air cooled twin that in standard trim is taken close to the limit of reliability producing 75-ish HP. People can claim anything they like but the truth is somewhat different.

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2018, 04:49:04 PM »
It's a one litre air cooled twin that in standard trim is taken close to the limit of reliability producing 75-ish HP. People can claim anything they like but the truth is somewhat different.
If I could 10000 miles out of a 125 HP Guzzi I would be pumped, I’m not to concerned about long term reliability just want a Guzzi that could do second gear power band wheelies and entertain me. If all I wanted was outright reliability I wouldn’t own a Guzzi, I just happen to like the look and the personality. I still think a quality racing company with time and development could engineer a fix to all the problems that happen when you juice it up.
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2018, 06:11:14 PM »
People have been 'Juicing them up' for forty years. You won't get 120+ HP out of a 2V Guzzi. If you want 2nd gear power wheelies talk to chuck about his Scura but it ain't producing anywhere near 120hp.

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2018, 06:30:50 PM »
The big secret is dyno calibration.
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2018, 07:58:20 PM »
I hate when this happens




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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2018, 10:29:02 PM »
Ooops.
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2018, 11:03:37 PM »
I thought he posted 140+, but the next one w/blower is said to be 275


I think the proper response is "liar, liar, pants on fire".

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2018, 11:14:05 PM »
maybe that's metric HP?

More like Shetland ponies.
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2018, 12:00:14 AM »
Anything is possible if you toss enough money at it,  but I wouldn't expect it tp last too long.
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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2018, 01:05:57 AM »
It's very easy to get a computer screen so say what you want it to. Just as it's easy to get a dyno to read higher or lower just by changing the info you feed into it.

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Re: 123 HP V11 Sport Unbelievable!
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2018, 02:45:24 AM »
Did I post up the dyno charts for the 1400 here? Can't remember? Made 98. Something at the rear wheel. Torque curve is not a curve. It's a 'Flat'. We're really happy with that, but there again we aren't full of shit.......

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