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Title: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: leafman60 on May 29, 2018, 09:34:12 PM
https://royalenfield.com/usa/motorcycles/himalayan/bike/

Does this have modern shades of the Nuovo Falcone Militare?

I've been reading unexpected good reviews on the Himalayan in the few motorcycle magazines that I still receive of the few that continue to exist.

More than one comparison gives the Himalayan the nod for riders interested in serious off-road duty. 

An interesting take offered in my recent Rider mag's shoot-out with the BMW 310GS and the Kawasaki-whatever says "the Himalayan makes the others look like toys."  lol  I guess all that brightly-colored foo foo plastic doesn't compare well with the rugged basic outfitting of the Himalayan.

Royal Enfield doesn't have the best reputation for reliability.  But, this is a "new" motor and many other things are offered on the bike.  Price is like $4500 MSRP.

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Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: pyoungbl on May 29, 2018, 09:59:50 PM
RE the Himalyan:  This is yet another entry into the small adv motorcycle market.  It is simple, heavy, and probably over built (which means damn hard to kill).  The dealer network is slim and reliability is yet to be known.  With that said, the price is going to bring a lot of people to at least consider getting one.  There is no perfect motorcycle.  I think that the CSC RX3 gives more bang for the buck but then I'm biased.  It looks like this (sub 500 cc adv bike) is the only segment of the new motorcycle market that is growing so I expect to see more entries in the near future.  CSC is already talking about a 450 single adv bike.  Bring it on!

Peter Y.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 29, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
(https://royalenfield.com/usa/motorcycles/himalayan/images/product/snow-white/royalenfield-himalayan-bike-1.jpg)

you can get a good hardly used DR650 for that kind of money..just sayin..
I paid $3200 for mine w/3k miles..Corbin, rack, bash plate etc..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-7Hq4t8Q/0/d36f505c/L/IMG_1735-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-7Hq4t8Q/A)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: MMRanch on May 29, 2018, 11:01:36 PM
 :huh:

I understand the  Himalyan has a 4 gal fuel tank and 70+ mpg .   I do like the DR650's  wide Gearing but how fast is a dual sport going to be run ?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: huub on May 30, 2018, 05:21:51 AM
enfield used to suffer from pretty bad build quality
but under new management they improved their game , up to a point where a friend did 100.000 km on his, with just regular maintennance.
something absolutely unheard of with the old iron barrel engine.
even those were pretty reliable , if properly put together, ( in the nineties i used to run one as daily transport)
 
with the current generation of enfields  i wouldnt hesitate to take one on travel.
not sure chrome and paint quality is up to japanese standards, but at least they are well put together nowadays..
 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 30, 2018, 06:46:14 AM
:huh:

I understand the  Himalyan has a 4 gal fuel tank and 70+ mpg .   I do like the DR650's  wide Gearing but how fast is a dual sport going to be run ?
mine can run freeway speeds all day.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: blakestree on May 30, 2018, 08:28:52 AM
Why does it have two front fenders?  :shocked:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: MMRanch on May 30, 2018, 09:41:09 AM
Foto

You got one already ?   :huh:    mine can run freeway speeds all day.

If you could "Red-Line" high gear how fast would it be running.?

The Dealer in Nashville ain't got them yet , but I like the way they look and it seems like 400cc is big enough for one cylinder ... I've got a 652 Suzuki and like it except at low speeds it can be brutal .   


Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: twowings on May 30, 2018, 11:40:42 AM
This will be my bike when I'm too feeble to hold the Norge upright... :cool:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: pressureangle on May 30, 2018, 03:46:32 PM
I asked an Indian friend who only just recently completed a two-week tour of Nepal, on his Royal Enfield Bullet. Here's his reply. (To, "Did any of your party ride these?")

Yeah Eric, a lot of them. I was mighty impressed by the off-roading capability and also the performance in general (enough to go and check the price and availability in the showroom today).

Dunno about the price comparisons between here and there, or availability of used Kawas. <shrug> FWIW.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Muzz on May 30, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
  The dealer network is slim
Peter Y.

I think most of us here have learnt to live with that one Peter. :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 30, 2018, 04:27:19 PM
Foto

You got one already ?   :huh:    mine can run freeway speeds all day.

If you could "Red-Line" high gear how fast would it be running.?

The Dealer in Nashville ain't got them yet , but I like the way they look and it seems like 400cc is big enough for one cylinder ... I've got a 652 Suzuki and like it except at low speeds it can be brutal .
no, I meant my DR, I have no desire to own a RE..
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: steven c on May 30, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
 I like the Himalayan, and I hope it sells well, but yes compared to a used DR650 or even my 88 XT350 it just doesn't compare. But I wouldn't mind having one.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Perazzimx14 on May 30, 2018, 07:28:58 PM
Why does it have two front fenders?  :shocked:

When the 1st one vibrates off you have a backup. Actually my C5 would do 70 indicated and still be pretty vibration free.

I hade a 2012 RE C5 bullet and it was a pleasant little bike. I would not buy anything pre UCE and I would never pay more than about 1/2 of MSRP for a new bike. If you think Guzzi's are tough on the secondary try selling and Enfield.

The 500cc Bullet was no powerhouse and I'm betting the 410 in the Himalayan is a bit of a dog
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: slopokes on May 30, 2018, 07:44:59 PM
24.5 Indian horses—- but they are twice the size of American horses😃😁😂😢😂
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: JohninVT on May 31, 2018, 04:05:35 AM
I think they look great.  It's like a half price Bonneville Scrambler....with half the horsepower and questionable reliability.  It has roughly the same power to weight ratio as a Suzuki VanVan or Yamaha TW200.  The Himalayan is 400lbs and has 24hp.  If I was going to buy a 25hp dual sport it would be the Honda 250 Rally or Kawasaki KLX 250.  Both are almost hundred pounds lighter and they're bulletproof.  For most riders who want to actually go someplace, fotoguzzi's suggestion makes a lot more sense.  A secondhand DR650 or DRZ400S can be fully outfitted to tour with an upgraded seat, larger tank, skidplate and soft bags for less than the Himalayan.  They'd outperform the Enfield in every measurable way.  I think the Enfield appeals to a lot of the same people that buy Ural's; mechanical masochists who don't mind having to rent a Uhaul trailer occasionally to get their bike home.  I prefer my adventure's to be free from reliability concerns.       
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: huub on May 31, 2018, 06:55:13 AM
I think the Enfield appeals to a lot of the same people that buy Ural's; mechanical masochists who don't mind having to rent a Uhaul trailer occasionally to get their bike home.  I prefer my adventure's to be free from reliability concerns.       

i suppose i am one of the masochists, owning guzzi's , ducati's , and ... wait for it..... a enfield.
despite owning a nineties iron barrel enfield , and using it for 70.000 km as a daily transport , i never needed a trailer.
so i am in a pretty good position to comment.
 
but basically , it comes down to choices , if you really want to get anywhere , have zero reliability issues, just get a plane/bus ticket.
if you want to be involved into your travels , get a airconditioned toyota.
you might even consider a bike.
if you do so , make sure to get a BMG 1200 GS, they are supposed to be reliable ( probably why i never owned one)  :Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu

i have heard people actually riding smaller , completely unsuitable bikes? who knows...




 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: leafman60 on May 31, 2018, 07:05:10 AM
I've put miles on a Suzuki DR650, DR350 and KLR650.

I've never ridden a Himalayan or any other Indian RE.

My bet is that the visceral riding character of the Himalayan is dramatically different from the Japanese bikes that really never inspired me very much.

Yes, I've heard terrible stories of reliability problems out of the RE's.  Although I appreciate charisma and visceral appeal, if the thing breaks down too often it's not something I'd want to have.  Same can be said about other brands that we all know very well....
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: JohninVT on May 31, 2018, 10:32:51 AM
i suppose i am one of the masochists, owning guzzi's , ducati's , and ... wait for it..... a enfield.
despite owning a nineties iron barrel enfield , and using it for 70.000 km as a daily transport , i never needed a trailer.
so i am in a pretty good position to comment.
 
but basically , it comes down to choices , if you really want to get anywhere , have zero reliability issues, just get a plane/bus ticket.
if you want to be involved into your travels , get a airconditioned toyota.
you might even consider a bike.
if you do so , make sure to get a BMG 1200 GS, they are supposed to be reliable ( probably why i never owned one)  :Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu

i have heard people actually riding smaller , completely unsuitable bikes? who knows...

I get plenty of visceral enjoyment riding my daughter's 1975 CT90 places that I shouldn't.  You can't get much more involved.
 If you GAVE me a GS1200 I'd immediately sell it to a stock broker in NYC with a high viz twat suit(copywright Pete Roper) and use the money to buy about 5 other motorcycles.  None of which would be a Himalayan.  Different strokes for different folks.   
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Ncdan on May 31, 2018, 01:44:59 PM
I really like some of these unusual bikes that not everyone has,  as being a little different is
Ok by me. The only issue with these bikes, which can include our beloved Guzzis, is that a breakdown in some parts of the country can be a real challenge, especially for the weak mechanical inclined as myself.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Testarossa on May 31, 2018, 03:07:24 PM
I like the Himalyan, too, in theory -- a dead-simple thumper with a comfortable saddle and enough suspension travel to be practical on a dirt road. It is a lot heavier than the Japanese 250s that will do the same job. But it looks like it would fit in with my long-term plan to downsize.

Then I realized I already have that bike -- my F650 thumper. It's lighter than the Himalyan with a bigger tank for better range and similar suspension.  No one has complained about the (Aprilia) build quality. And it's a 650. With carbs (two).

The only place the Himalyan beats the F650 is in ease of valve adjustment -- but the BMW service interval is 20,000 miles.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: SeanF on May 31, 2018, 03:17:52 PM
According to the spreadsheets:

DR650/KLR650 > RE Himalayan
Ducati Scrambler > Modern Guzzi v7
Almost any of the big trailies > Guzzi Stelvio

But I think most here would agree with the expression, "you don't ride a spreadsheet".

Personally I have 2 Guzzis, 1 DR 650 (currently in supermoto trim), and would totally add a Himalayan to the mix, garage space permitting.

Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Githianki on May 31, 2018, 06:08:11 PM
Called the closest dealer to me in CT.  The bike ticks off some wants for me so I wanted to check it out.  He pre-sold his first 5 and didn't expect any available again till mid July.  So they must be doing something right.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: canuck750 on May 31, 2018, 06:21:23 PM
:huh:

I understand the  Himalyan has a 4 gal fuel tank and 70+ mpg .   I do like the DR650's  wide Gearing but how fast is a dual sport going to be run ?

Well my KLR650 runs at 70 mph all day, I just road it back from Phoenix AZ to Edmonton AB, Canada, about 2400miles in 5 days, and it gets 280 miles to a tank of gas.

I think the new RE is underpowered compared to a DR650 or KLR 650 plus both the DR and KLR have been around for a very long time, super reliable, well supported aftermarket parts and accessories, cheap to run. DR makes 43.5 hp and the KLR is rated at 42 hp.

The DR 650 is a lot lighter than a KLR, 357 wet compared to 432 wet for a KLR, and the DR has a longer suspension front and back 10.2/10.2 compared to 7.9/7.3 for the KLR, the KLR has a bigger fuel tank and has a lot more aftermarket support. The DR is more off road orientated while the KLR is a paved road / gravel road bike. A good used low mile DR or KLR can be had for $4K or less.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: BRG-BIRD on May 31, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
I test rode a Himalayan a couple weeks ago and was impressed with the bike overall. Relatively smooth, good handling  and had enough power for what it is. Nice bike for the $$
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on June 01, 2018, 09:25:31 AM
 Johninvt,  How can you compare a Himalayan to a Van Van?  Do you own a Van Van?
 I do, and it is a very dependable ride with fuel injection, oil cooler, and 5x20 chain, and a sidecar.
 S'not fast but neither am I anymore.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: HarveyMushman on June 01, 2018, 05:35:24 PM
RE the Himalyan:  This is yet another entry into the small adv motorcycle market.  It is simple, heavy, and probably over built (which means damn hard to kill).  The dealer network is slim and reliability is yet to be known.  With that said, the price is going to bring a lot of people to at least consider getting one.  There is no perfect motorcycle.  I think that the CSC RX3 gives more bang for the buck but then I'm biased.  It looks like this (sub 500 cc adv bike) is the only segment of the new motorcycle market that is growing so I expect to see more entries in the near future.  CSC is already talking about a 450 single adv bike.  Bring it on!

Peter Y.

Got a RE dealer less than 5 miles from me.  Can't say that about Guzzi . . .
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Shorty on June 02, 2018, 12:19:58 AM
Yamaha needs to do this to their XT series. Again. With electric leg.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: JohninVT on June 02, 2018, 05:10:56 AM
Johninvt,  How can you compare a Himalayan to a Van Van?  Do you own a Van Van?
 I do, and it is a very dependable ride with fuel injection, oil cooler, and 5x20 chain, and a sidecar.
 S'not fast but neither am I anymore.

I’d much rather have a Van Van or TW200 than a Himalayan.  I was only pointing out they have similar power to weight ratios and are reliable.  I’m thinking about buying a Van Van for my daughter this summer to replace her CT90
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: nick949 on June 02, 2018, 05:31:18 AM
Motorcycling ain't about 'what's best' IMHO.
It makes no sense to me making comparisons between the RE and DR's, KLR's etc. If you prefer those, buy one of those.
Personally, the Himalayan doesn't speak to me, but if it did I wouldn't be interested in weighing spec sheets or worrying about which bike was 'better'. Heck, we ride Guzzis - which, by any measurable standard is a wonky decision.

Nick
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: jas67 on June 02, 2018, 06:33:40 AM
Heck, we ride Guzzis - which, by any measurable standard is a wonky decision.

Nick

Wow, I never really thought about it, but, you're right!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on June 02, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
I think the new RE is underpowered compared to a DR650 or KLR 650 plus both the DR and KLR have been around for a very long time, super reliable, well supported aftermarket parts and accessories, cheap to run. DR makes 43.5 hp and the KLR is rated at 42 hp.

So a 400 is underpowered compared to a 650! Wow! Who would have thought?  :laugh: :wink: It's still a bit underpowered compared to something similarly low-tech like a Yamaha SR400.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Sheepdog on June 02, 2018, 09:18:20 AM
Though I’m fascinated by the Himalayan, it misses my mark...but only a little. I have always thought that the 350 to 450cc engine size was an ideal class for dual sport riding, but the RE comes in a little too heavy. It weighs about the same as a V7 Stornello, but delivers about half the horsepower. For about $1500 more cash I could buy a brand new (leftover) 2017 Suzuki DRZ400S. That bike is lighter, more powerful, better handling, and has a larger dealer network. I like the new Honda 450 dual sport too, but the price rivals the expensive KTM offerings. OTOH, the DRZ cannot match the funky vibe of the RE. It’s just the thing for the “different drummer” set...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: fossil on June 03, 2018, 01:12:42 AM
Some of you seem to miss the point. The Himalayan is first of all for the Indian home market. It is better suited for the really bad ways there than the Bullet series. When they are able to sell some of them in the western markets - all the better.

One of our magazines has in a group ridden Himalayans about 2500 km in - well - the Himalaya, and they regarded the bike as phantastic. Much better than the Bullet they had also in the group. And now a Himalayan is in an endurance test (in Germany) and more and more of the writers discover it is a lovely bike. Not fast but why should riding always be about going fast? Having looked at and taking seat on a Himalayan I have to say this could easily be my second bike in the garage (actually my third but my Honda ST70 DAX which you Americans know under "CT70" is still not running).
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: ozziguzzi on June 03, 2018, 03:35:20 AM
Fossil has made the essential point - namely that this is a bike made principally for the domestic Indian market and the greatest number will be sold there, so elements of its design are peculiar to that market.

I've just come back from a 2000 km High Himalayas ride (Spiti Valley) and after a bad experience on a R E Classic 3 years ago, insisted on a F I Himalayan. I wasn't expecting anything wonderful but was agreeably surprised.

The good.
No plastic panels so that with the tank surround and a rack on the back, damage would be minimal if you came off.
Comfortable seat. (2 hours easy) Not like my NC 700.
Good suspension and very stable. Got up on the pegs in the rough stuff and easy to stand for a kilometre.
Good economy (probably near 30kms per litre on the flat)
Brakes good, gearchange slick and easy. Rolling on and off the throttle very progressive and smooth (not like my Indian Scout)
Never once felt it would flop into a corner (esp a R H one)
Rode it on the 'tollway' (joke) at 100kph (sometimes 110kph)- 70mph and it seemed to cope.
Sells in Delhi for US $2600.  Has '"presence" so ideal for jousting with tuk tuks, scooters, and smaller stuff.

The bad
underpowered (by western standards) (inevitable with that much metal rather than plastic)
overgeared. On steep climbs changing fr first to second had the revs dropping too much and it would bog down.
                  Gear ratios are too wide but this could be fixed by dropping one tooth on the front sprocket.

I made a point of getting on my MT03 (660c Tenere motor) as soon as I got home to make a comparison and there wasn't a lot in it. It accelerated more strongly, and the gears weren't as 'gappy' but if Yamaha were now trying to sell that bike for the MRP that was listed in 2015, then I'd take the Himalayan.

I wouldn't take the criticisms of anyone who hadn't done a reasonably long ride (not a dealer ride) too seriously.

Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: BrotherJim on June 05, 2018, 07:32:08 AM
I have a friend that is a RE dealer in Indianapolis.  Spoke to him at a show this weekend, and he has pre-sold every Himalayan (5) he's had, so far.  I think they are cool, but not as cool as my TW200. 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Dharma Bum on June 05, 2018, 09:55:33 AM
Reading some of the comments on this bike, it seems like it needs some work in the suspension area and some fitments (i.e., footpegs, etc) need some fiddling. But, if you follow many of the threads over at ADV, there are no motorcycles out there that don't need some attention in these areas.  One can easily drop over a grand into a V7 to get the suspension "just right" and suppliers are making a crap ton of money supplying adjustable foot pegs for everything out there.  To me, it looks like a motorcycle ought to look with no superfluous plastic to break when it decides to take a dirt nap.  Lots of good bikes out there and I welcome any addition that might get more seats on seats.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: twowings on June 05, 2018, 11:15:30 AM
It's a quirky, odd, technologically-primitive, somewhat-down-on-power bike from a foreign country...who among us has ever bought a bike LIKE THAT???  :evil:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: steven c on June 05, 2018, 01:25:22 PM
 Honest review.
https://youtu.be/YRzp5iDRNvw
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: sidecarnutz on June 05, 2018, 02:59:13 PM
I think they look great.  It's like a half price Bonneville Scrambler....with half the horsepower and questionable reliability.  It has roughly the same power to weight ratio as a Suzuki VanVan or Yamaha TW200.  The Himalayan is 400lbs and has 24hp.  If I was going to buy a 25hp dual sport it would be the Honda 250 Rally or Kawasaki KLX 250.  Both are almost hundred pounds lighter and they're bulletproof.  For most riders who want to actually go someplace, fotoguzzi's suggestion makes a lot more sense.  A secondhand DR650 or DRZ400S can be fully outfitted to tour with an upgraded seat, larger tank, skidplate and soft bags for less than the Himalayan.  They'd outperform the Enfield in every measurable way.  I think the Enfield appeals to a lot of the same people that buy Ural's; mechanical masochists who don't mind having to rent a Uhaul trailer occasionally to get their bike home.  I prefer my adventure's to be free from reliability concerns.     

I take great umbrage at this remark Sir! I'll have you know that we own our own damned trailers and don't have to rent them from U haul!  :evil:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: twowings on June 06, 2018, 04:43:39 PM
Here is a link to a real-world use report from advrider.com:

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/royal-enfield-himalayan-owners-thread.1253460/page-69#post-35187012

Reply #1364
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: leafman60 on June 07, 2018, 08:47:19 AM
Here is a link to a real-world use report from advrider.com:

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/royal-enfield-himalayan-owners-thread.1253460/page-69#post-35187012

Reply #1364

That is an interesting synopsis of sorting out a Himalayan.  Sounds virtually verbatim like many posts on this forum site regarding the sorting of a Guzzi! 

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Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Huzo on June 07, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
i suppose i am one of the masochists, owning guzzi's , ducati's , and ... wait for it..... a enfield.
despite owning a nineties iron barrel enfield , and using it for 70.000 km as a daily transport , i never needed a trailer.
so i am in a pretty good position to comment.
 
but basically , it comes down to choices , if you really want to get anywhere , have zero reliability issues, just get a plane/bus ticket.
if you want to be involved into your travels , get a airconditioned toyota.
you might even consider a bike.
if you do so , make sure to get a BMG 1200 GS, they are supposed to be reliable ( probably why i never owned one)  :Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu

i have heard people actually riding smaller , completely unsuitable bikes? who knows...
I get that completely.
I did my first Nordkapp on a BMW R1200 GS and it was like having a hot shower while wearing your raincoat...! All the charm of a wooden spoon, or kissing your sister, (really easy but no "spark")..
Comparing the little Enfield with a DR 650 is fraught with imponderables, that's like comparing a Griso with an Aprilia RSV 1000 and calling the Griso weak because it's "measurably inferior".
The bits that matter are immeasurable..
If the brave little Enfield pushes your buttons, then that's the one to get.
I reckon they're worth a look.. :thumb:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Huzo on June 07, 2018, 04:17:55 PM
It's a quirky, odd, technologically-primitive, somewhat-down-on-power bike from a foreign country...who among us has ever bought a bike LIKE THAT???  :evil:
Priceless... :thumb: :bow:

That Simon bloke, (was it Ted ?) who wrote Jupiter's Travels, rode a vile, stinking piece of junk 'round the world and was justifiably revered for it, that's the real charm.
In 2015 I shipped a GS to London, did 25,000 k's, washed the bike and came home.
If there'd been a bridge over the wet bits, that's akin to riding from Creswick (Melbourne) to London and back home, which is more distance as 'round the world on the dirt bits, yet my trip is no big deal at all.
The Beemer makes it just too damn "safe and easy".
Riding the Enfield over the Top of The World would be life defining.
On a DRZ 400 Suzuki...? Relatively dull, pointless and too easy.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on June 07, 2018, 04:23:20 PM
I was shooting the..er.. breeze.. at the restaurant on Angles Crest one day with a guy that had an older Enfield nicely cafe'd. He said it was the most unreliable machine he'd ever had.. and the most fun. <shrug>
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Huzo on June 07, 2018, 04:39:58 PM
I was shooting the..er.. breeze.. at the restaurant on Angles Crest one day with a guy that had an older Enfield nicely cafe'd. He said it was the most unreliable machine he'd ever had.. and the most fun. <shrug>
Yep.
If you want reliable, have a look at the plastic spoon you used to put the sugar in your coffee.
Never seen one break down..!
BTW.. I reckon your/his point is supremely valid.
Anyway, it was sort of reliable. You could rely on it breaking down.. :rolleyes: :angry:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Sheepdog on June 08, 2018, 11:31:17 AM
Ted Simon’s first circumnavigation was in 1973 and was sponsored by a UK newspaper. I’m sure that riding a native-born motorcycle was part of the deal. When he went back a second time in 2001, he rode a BMW R80GS...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Testarossa on June 08, 2018, 12:11:22 PM
Quote
Ted Simon�s first circumnavigation was in 1973 and was sponsored by a UK newspaper. I�m sure that riding a native-born motorcycle was part of the deal. When he went back a second time in 2001, he rode a BMW R80GS...

Simon also had limited sponsorship from Triumph and Avon on the first trip. For the second trip he had help from a BMW dealer and reader support -- a lot of folks contributed $5/month. Also see http://jupitalia.com/sponsors/

Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Shiftonthefly on June 08, 2018, 01:03:54 PM
I love it. For the precise reason I love the Guzzi. It's different. It may not do all the amazing things a GS or Tiger can do...but damn it's cool. For the most part people don't push the bike to the limits of capability any way. Mostly it's the rider holding the bike back. I really dig that thing. Except for that stupid dual fender.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: not-fishing on June 08, 2018, 01:39:30 PM
27 Jan 2016, 9:35 UTC · by Florin Tibu/ Home / News / Moto

Siddhartha Lal, CEO of Eicher Motors and the man who gave Royal Enfield a new future, has made the first public declarations after official RE footage showed a peg falling off a bike during a video teaser.

(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news-pictures-600x/siddhartha-lal-of-royal-enfield-clarifies-the-broken-peg-issue-104023-7.jpg)

Improved Quality Control Much?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on June 08, 2018, 04:16:24 PM
Yep.
If you want reliable, have a look at the plastic spoon you used to put the sugar in your coffee.
Never seen one break down..!
BTW.. I reckon your/his point is supremely valid.
Anyway, it was sort of reliable. You could rely on it breaking down.. :rolleyes: :angry:

Oh, I've broken those plastic boogers. Get you a Guzzi spoon. Made out of metal.. it'll outlast you.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: tcunnien on June 28, 2018, 08:18:01 PM
Wife just bought home a new Himalayan yesterday. She bought it as a companion to her Suzuki V- Strom 1000. She wanted something smaller and a bit lighter and more nimble for short trips around the area. She also wanted something a bit on the quirky side. We shall see how it holds up.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 28, 2018, 10:12:21 PM
Saw one sitting @ flying tigers motorcycles in Maplewood, Mo. (st Louis) the other day
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: leafman60 on June 29, 2018, 05:53:04 AM
Wife just bought home a new Himalayan yesterday. She bought it as a companion to her Suzuki V- Strom 1000. She wanted something smaller and a bit lighter and more nimble for short trips around the area. She also wanted something a bit on the quirky side. We shall see how it holds up.

Please keep us updated on your experience with the Himalayan.

.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: rjamesohio on July 21, 2018, 08:45:05 AM
Hope this link to the RE video was not posted previously, but regardless - it's well done. And the DC3 flying next to the road is SUPER COOL.

https://youtu.be/Oc0-Ndu_rzI

I want to ride one of these, but will have to track down a dealer in SW Ohio. I get all the points about RE and this being under-powered, but -

1) I believe it IS a new engine, not derived from the very old-school RE stuff.
2) Components look nice - Brembo brakes, while not uncommon, are certainly decnt units.
3) I like the ergos, and agree with many that a 400 CC thumper is a very usable size for what this is intended for.

And yes Leafman - we're all interested in the observations of an owner!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: tcunnien on July 24, 2018, 10:18:54 AM
My wife has had the Himalayan for about 3 weeks now.  Included is a picture of the bike with a Givi top box that we installed. I also included a picture of the braces I made for the rear rack so that there wouldn't be any issues with the rack bending or breaking. For those that are wondering the motor is a new design that has nothing in common with the engine that is the bullet 500. First impression are favorable. Nothing has fallen off yet.  :grin: So far the bike is meeting the needs of what my wife wanted it for. Which was short trips around the area, and to run errands. It is fun on the backroads with plenty of power and torque to maintain speeds up to 50-60. It will go faster but will work when hills are involved. On dirt roads she has found it very sure footed and easy to control. She likes the brakes on dirt as they are not as touchy as the ones on her 1000 v-strom. One negative is the saddle is two piece. and the pillow seat starts to be a bit uncomfortable against her lower back after a bit. So overall first impressions are good and we shall see what develops during the rest of the riding season. But right now its meeting her needs, which I guess is all we can ask of any bike.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/k6p9KT/Himy_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6p9KT)

Anonymous Olde English (https://poetandpoem.com/Anonymous-Olde-English)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/dkcwzT/Himy_2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dkcwzT)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Lannis on July 24, 2018, 10:38:17 AM
Wow, she can haul a lot of stuff on that bike.

Glad to hear that it "does what it says on the tin".    What sort of engine is it?   Still "Enfield-made" but just not the old 1955-base model, or maybe even the Indians are using Chinese engines these days.

Hope it continues to give satisfaction ...

Lannis
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Lannis on July 24, 2018, 10:53:27 AM
Hope this link to the RE video was not posted previously, but regardless - it's well done. And the DC3 flying next to the road is SUPER COOL.

https://youtu.be/Oc0-Ndu_rzI



Went back and looked at the video, and although it IS a bit "Master Po" style, and the DC-3 is a simulation, it's a pretty effective "Go have an Adventure on our Adventure Bike" video.   

I wouldn't mind having one, but there's no place in my motorcycling bag of clubs for it at the moment ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: tcunnien on July 24, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
The engine is made in India in the new RE manufacturing plant. The frame, which is robotically welded was designed by Harris Performance in England. They are now owned by Royal Enfield. I have a attached a picture of the engine that is from the RE site.


(https://thumb.ibb.co/doK4m8/overhead.jpg) (https://ibb.co/doK4m8)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: steven c on July 24, 2018, 12:44:51 PM
 The Himalayan really intrigues me but for my use I can't see what has to over over my 88 Yamaha XT350, oh I know E start!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: john fish on July 24, 2018, 03:30:16 PM
Here is a link to a real-world use report from advrider.com:

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/royal-enfield-himalayan-owners-thread.1253460/page-69#post-35187012

Reply #1364

From that thread. Sounds familiar: 

“Re-grease the head bearings, swing arm bearings and suspension linkage ASAP. Think about fitting grease zerks to the linkage in order to lubricate this frequently. The grease work from factory has been sparing and lead to tightening of the head bearings and squeaking/premature wear of the swing arm and suspension linkage. ”

:)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: JohninVT on July 24, 2018, 04:20:51 PM
I will say it again. Yamaha needs to put an electric leg on it's 400cc lump, and put it in a  XT frame.  :food:

I have zero interest in a Himalayan but I'd be all over a Yamaha XT400 like white on rice.  Upgrade the suspension on a SR400, mount a higher exhaust, put a luggage rack on the back and I'd do my best to wear it out over the next ten years. 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Moto on December 08, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
I just happened to run across this really enjoyable, frank review of the Himalayan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQwA5t8cnkE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQwA5t8cnkE)

It's conducted on trails in southern Utah, which is beautiful enough to make me want to leave home.

The series is called "Brutally Frank Honest Reviews." [Fixed it.]

Anyway, I give this review 4 stars, and commend it to you all.

Moto

P.S. The bike itself seems pretty attractive to me.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on December 08, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
Utah has its charms but it is too far from civilization for permanent residence for my taste.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Bulldog9 on December 08, 2018, 08:24:07 PM
I almost bought one.... the Stornello charmed me..... Still, a very nice bike and fair price...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: leafman60 on February 02, 2019, 11:30:11 AM
Several people have told me that they are seriously looking at a Himalayan right now.  I've not yet seen one.

I wonder if anyone in Daytona stocks them....
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 02, 2019, 03:53:25 PM
Dual sport. Not very good off road or on road..  :evil: That was the saying back in the day.. apparently that still holds true.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: rdbandkab on February 03, 2019, 09:31:31 AM
I'll look again if the Himi gets a 650.  I just can't wrap my brain around extended interstate runs at 70mph with a 400cc engine. :shocked:  Oh, I'm sure it's done without issues by some. (my buddy has done epic rides with a guy that's taken a WR250 all over the darn place).  But I'm also thinking of taking a passenger for short jaunts also.  I'm thinking the Himalayan would be a fun "do-it-all" bike more than a weekend trip with the wife and gear bike.  I could be wrong though.  It would be a hoot to take that thing downstate WV with my better half.  Just not sure the suspension would be up for it.
And although I do try to find the "backways" to places, I still find myself having to get on the interstate for extended runs.  I'm more comfortable with a "larger engine, lower revs" scenario than the "smaller engine, higher revs" option.
I'm sure a (insert big 4 brand name) mid-sizer would be the more intelligent choice, but I'm usually using another organ to influence my bike buying decision.  (not that!!)   My heart goes with "oddball" choices.
The RE tugs the ole heartstrings as did the 06 Breva 1100 we purchased years ago.
Believe me....if Guzzi doesn't come up with something to inspire me when it's time for our purchase of our next 2up "trip" bike,  the Yamaha Tracer 900 will be on the short list.


richy
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: vstevens on February 03, 2019, 11:22:17 PM
I test rode a RE Himalayan a couple weeks ago.  Lucky enough to have pretty much every brand of bike locally.  I liked it.  I was surprised at how light it felt, significantly lighter than my V7 did.  Guess it's weight is down low.  Low speed fueling was smooth, nearly like a twist n go scooter.  It's definitely set up for slow and easy.  Plenty fast for what it's built for.  I haven't driven out of state for years so can't justify a large interstate barge.

At any rate, I'm over going fast and trying to push the limits.  I've been considering a Vespa 300 or 250.  The Himalayan is just as easy to ride but with longer suspension travel and larger wheels.  It's on my short list... with the Vespa and a MG V9.  Wow 😳 what a diverse mix of bikes. 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: leafman60 on February 04, 2019, 07:27:01 AM
Yeah, a 650 Himalayan sounds like the ticket for success.

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Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: leafman60 on February 06, 2019, 07:48:16 AM
How about a Himalayan with that new 650 twin engine in it???

.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: rdbandkab on February 06, 2019, 09:35:56 AM
 :drool:

Now if I can only mod the suspension for two-up...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: twowheeladdict on February 08, 2019, 07:22:19 AM


 Kawasaki-whatever .

It's called the Versys X-300.  All the reviews I have watched on youtube definitely favor the Kawasaki.  Bulletproof, smooth, fun engine that redlines at like 12,500 RPMs, less maintenance.

I will say though that the Himalayan definitely "looks" up to the task.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: kenvil1 on February 08, 2019, 09:17:38 AM
It's called the Versys X-300...

The totally revamped Ninja 400 is getting nothing but stellar reviews, and for good reason. If Kawasaki gives the Versys-X the same treatment it will definitely be a serious contender in its category.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: zebraranger on February 08, 2019, 10:18:22 AM
It's called the Versys X-300.  All the reviews I have watched on youtube definitely favor the Kawasaki.  Bulletproof, smooth, fun engine that redlines at like 12,500 RPMs, less maintenance.

I will say though that the Himalayan definitely "looks" up to the task.

After doing all the online research on the BMW G310, the Himalayan and the Versys x-300, and test riding the X300 and the BMW, I ended up adding this Versys X-300 to the stables a few weeks ago. Primarily for local short trip urban use and riding cow pastures, woods & trails type of use. Like you, out of all the reviews, that I read and video's watched on all three, the Versys X-300 had the edge. That being said, all three have their pro's & cons, it all comes down to how you intend to use the bike, how much off roading compared to street riding, and what type of off roading you will be doing. Motocross stuff, rocky terrain with boulders and log jumping or gravel roads, unpaved fire roads & trails. The Himalayan has more maintenance needs & issues, so if you like working on your bikes frequently, its a good one to have. The one thing I quickly liked about the X-300 was the ability to move it around in the garage with one hand, and the ease of slow speed maneuvering basically at crawl speed. After many years of riding and still riding 1200cc to 1800cc heavy bikes, this was a pleasant change. But, I still like my big bikes...
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NTD89Nw/143746-2200p-ENH.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6T5wQxr)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: rdbandkab on February 08, 2019, 10:51:59 AM
Quote
The Himalayan has more maintenance needs & issues, so if you like working on your bikes frequently, its a good one to have.

What are the needs and issues that the other two don't have?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 08, 2019, 11:46:21 AM
My buddy Leo rode all three mentioned above and chose the Himalayan.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: twowheeladdict on February 08, 2019, 12:43:25 PM
After doing all the online research on the BMW G310, the Himalayan and the Versys x-300, and test riding the X300 and the BMW, I ended up adding this Versys X-300 to the stables a few weeks ago. Primarily for local short trip urban use and riding cow pastures, woods & trails type of use. Like you, out of all the reviews, that I read and video's watched on all three, the Versys X-300 had the edge. That being said, all three have their pro's & cons, it all comes down to how you intend to use the bike, how much off roading compared to street riding, and what type of off roading you will be doing. Motocross stuff, rocky terrain with boulders and log jumping or gravel roads, unpaved fire roads & trails. The Himalayan has more maintenance needs & issues, so if you like working on your bikes frequently, its a good one to have. The one thing I quickly liked about the X-300 was the ability to move it around in the garage with one hand, and the ease of slow speed maneuvering basically at crawl speed. After many years of riding and still riding 1200cc to 1800cc heavy bikes, this was a pleasant change. But, I still like my big bikes...
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NTD89Nw/143746-2200p-ENH.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6T5wQxr)

From what I recall of Florida (lived there 12 years) the vanvan200 and TW200 would be good choices with their wide tires for the swamp and sugar sand encountered.  :)  Unless you live in the panhandle areas maybe.

I've ridden the Ninja 300, but haven't had a go on the Versys 300 yet.  You have to be willing to rev to enjoy the bike's capabilities, but that was the same way with the KLX250 I had or the Ninja 250 I owned for a time.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: zebraranger on February 08, 2019, 02:06:00 PM
What are the needs and issues that the other two don't have?
These were some of the things that I ran across doing online research on the Himalayan. Like I said earlier, if you enjoy working on your bike, many of these issues are minor and are easy fixes.
Some of the issues reported on the Royal Enfield forum were things like engine management system (computer) throwing a fault code showing the motor is out of compliance within its operating parameters.
Windscreen or headlight bucket rattling/buzzing reported by a few of the forum members.
Magnetic coil, T-stem, gear and clutch issue, oil Leakage, engine noise are some of the other reported issues that I found.
Here's a link to one of the articles that I found: https://www.change.org/p/suffering-major-problems-with-royal-enfield-himalayan
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: zebraranger on February 08, 2019, 02:18:36 PM
What are the needs and issues that the other two don't have?
Some of the issues that I found doing online research was from the Royal Enfield Forum (Himalayan). Like I said earlier, if you like working on bikes, some of these are easy fixes, others are not though.
Engine Management System (computer) throwing a fault code showing the motor is out of compliance with its operating parameters.
Reported by many of the members is a rattle/buzzing noise coming from either the windscreen or headlight bucket.
Magnetic coil, T-stem, gear and clutch issue, oil Leakage, and irregular engine noise.
Here's a link to a good article on those issues. https://www.change.org/p/suffering-major-problems-with-royal-enfield-himalayan
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: zebraranger on February 08, 2019, 02:38:50 PM
Quote
From what I recall of Florida (lived there 12 years) the vanvan200 and TW200 would be good choices with their wide tires for the swamp and sugar sand encountered.  :)  Unless you live in the panhandle areas maybe.

I've ridden the Ninja 300, but haven't had a go on the Versys 300 yet.  You have to be willing to rev to enjoy the bike's capabilities, but that was the same way with the KLX250 I had or the Ninja 250 I owned for a time.
Yes those are very popular little bikes here, especially for ranch work and with campers. I wanted something a little more full sized like either the Himalayan, BMW G310 or the VX300. It does have the same motor as the Ninja 300, just re-tuned and re-geared. You're right, its a very high revving motor, it redlines at 12,500 RPM's. I was surprised at how smooth the motor runs at the higher RPM range. The Griso 1200 redlines at 8000, but it too is fairly smooth at the higher RPM range. But, riding the Griso is like riding an angry Rhino, thats why its a fun ride.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 08, 2019, 03:19:39 PM
Some of the issues that I found doing online research was from the Royal Enfield Forum (Himalayan). Like I said earlier, if you like working on bikes, some of these are easy fixes, others are not though.
Engine Management System (computer) throwing a fault code showing the motor is out of compliance with its operating parameters.
Reported by many of the members is a rattle/buzzing noise coming from either the windscreen or headlight bucket.
Magnetic coil, T-stem, gear and clutch issue, oil Leakage, and irregular engine noise.
Here's a link to a good article on those issues. https://www.change.org/p/suffering-major-problems-with-royal-enfield-himalayan

That petition seems to be owners of the "first series" of Himalayan, AFAIK the one sold in the US is the "newer BS4 model" referenced in it.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: rdbandkab on February 08, 2019, 03:26:52 PM
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That petition seems to be owners of the "first series" of Himalayan, AFAIK the one sold in the US is the "newer BS4 model" referenced in it.

That's what I was thinking.  The older models (India release) seemed to have some issues,  but I hadn't read about any issues or intense maintenance requirements with the BS4 models.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: maquette on February 08, 2019, 05:20:35 PM
but that was the same way with the KLX250 I had or the Ninja 250 I owned for a time.

I loved the KLX250S I had and still regret selling it. For the money and the type uses I see in this  thread, I think I would just find a good used KLX250S and be happy again.  :grin:
(https://i.ibb.co/tYDYnTL/In-the-woods.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tYDYnTL)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: steven c on February 08, 2019, 06:14:57 PM
  I think about selling my XT350 and getting a Himalayan, but the only advantage I can think of beside being 30 years newer is the  E start. The Yamaha  is fine when it wants to be a 1 to 3 kick bike,it's when it becomes the 20 to 30 kick to start it starts to bug me. The XT is under 300LBs will cruise at 70 can go anywhere I want to.I do have a Enfield dealer close by so one of these days I'll have to check it out. With a garage full of old bikes something this decade may be nice...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: twowheeladdict on February 08, 2019, 08:48:25 PM
I loved the KLX250S I had and still regret selling it. For the money and the type uses I see in this  thread, I think I would just find a good used KLX250S and be happy again.  :grin:
(https://i.ibb.co/tYDYnTL/In-the-woods.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tYDYnTL)


It was hard to let my KLX250 go because I was admitting that my back won't allow me to truly off-road adventure anymore.  Created some good memories with mine though.


(https://i.ibb.co/9rzZxZR/sm20150525-120036.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9rzZxZR)

(https://i.ibb.co/nPfFGCB/sm20150601-095634.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nPfFGCB)

(https://i.ibb.co/FKdV7KC/sm20150524-125824.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FKdV7KC)

(https://i.ibb.co/rHxgTY5/sm20150518-162555.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rHxgTY5)

(https://i.ibb.co/ZBC8C1Q/007-KLX-Trail-Ride.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZBC8C1Q)

(https://i.ibb.co/jvjfckH/sm20150518-164021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jvjfckH)


I was fortunate to be able to ride that bike in Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, New Mexico and California.  Great memories. 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: twowings on February 08, 2019, 09:05:53 PM
This is a link to a video about an RE Himalayan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=536&v=vPccT4oh2wM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=536&v=vPccT4oh2wM)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: rdbandkab on February 10, 2019, 10:07:18 AM
Just visited our closest Royal Enfield dealer yesterday. About an hour away in Tarentum, PA.  I was impressed actually!  Of course, the RE's were only a small part of a larger, multi-bike shop.  The biggest money maker brand (maybe?), Harley, occupied another building,  but the building we were in displayed Honda, Triumph, Kawi, and RE.   They also had a few Benelli "Grom" style bikes and a bicycle shop out front.  The place is like a candy store to me..

Great sales staff and a positive overall vibe there.  The sales guy hadn't heard about the possibility of a 650 twin being used for the Himilayan, but I'm crossing my fingers after seeing some online reports.  Has to be true...it was on the internet!!!  (kidding).   I'm hoping that they do the twin and in the process grow the bike a bit.  The Himi almost reminds me of a 9/10 scale bike.   That's fine for solo riding,  but I know I'd like to take the wife on jaunts on it.  Might be a little crowded in its current state.  THey're currently waiting on a shipment of the newer models...Intercepto rs and Conti GT's.
They did show me an Africa Twin for $10k when I mentioned that the Himalayan looked a little on the small side for two-up trips. Purdy.

(https://i.ibb.co/fq0vBtf/PHOTO-20190209-124224.jpg)

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Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: Githianki on February 10, 2019, 05:28:35 PM
1500ish miles on my Himi and no issues.  Seems like its a crap shoot as to good and bad bikes, but they got 99% of the bigger issues with the B3 sorted out with this release.  RE has said no to a 650 Himalayan, not to say there wont be a bigger displacement model at a later time.  Hitchcocks in England is working on a big bore kit to bring it up to something like 476cc, and there is a piggyback ECU programmer available now too that has good reviews already.  Bike has plenty of oomoph but all down low.  I can do 70-75 and the bike isn't even working hard carrying my 250# ass with gear.   
Title: Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan
Post by: rdbandkab on February 10, 2019, 05:51:12 PM
I'm hoping this:

MAXABOUT TEAM  Jan 5, 2019

"Royal Enfield Himalayan 650, a dream motorcycle for those who love tackling odd terrains at all times, will launch in India this year. As Royal Enfield’s CEO Siddhartha Lal has already hinted at a bigger Himalayan, one fact that comes clear is that it will share the platform with the recently launched Interceptor 650 and Continental GT 650. Not just that, the brand will try its best to test the bigger Himalayan extensively before the official launch later this year. The first version of Himalayan with 411cc, single cylinder engine was highly criticized for the least amount of testing before its launch."
"The present generation Himalayan comes with a 411cc, single cylinder engine producing 24.5 BHP at 6500 rpm and 32 Nm at 4250 rpm."
"The tyre size on the present Himalayan is perfect for the job while ground clearance and suspension travel will change for sure with the new frame. The bigger Himalayan will support design changes to overcome the current limitations while pricing will surely be on the upper side of both the present 650cc bikes."


Like I said,  this is me just wanting the 650 option...

richy