Recommendation for place to source V7 Racer parts.

[twowheeladdict]

I am thinking about converting my V7III into a Racer for a change of pace so I don't get bored with it and trade it off.  LOL!

Any advice and help is greatly appreciated. 

I see that there are the SATO racing rearsets.  Do they put the feet in the same position as the Racer rearsets? 
Can either be added without moving the rear brake pump since the Racer puts it behind the side cover?

I would also like to get the Racer Clipons.  They felt very comfortable when I test rode the 2020 V7 Racer.  Where is a good source for these and are there any aftermarket that put your hands in the same position?  Do I have to change out the front brake line or do I just need to find a way to route it where it isn't obviously too long?  I'd like to keep the possibility of going back unless I decide the clipons are a permanent solution. 

I will probably get the older racer seat with red stitching and maybe get the rear cover. 

I thought I saw the clipons on AF1 racing's website in the past, but don't see any there now.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Woodcraft clip-ons are highly adjustable, come in a variety of rises, and are cheaper than the OEM bars....  if you get a pair with 2-3" rise, you might not need to shorten the brake line

[usedtobefast]

I have a V7 iii Racer and went to a LSL speedbar.  Similar bend as clip ons but 2"-3" higher so much more comfortable.  I want to hang onto my clipons for when I sell it. 

But, very easy to replace your bar with the LSL speedbar. 

Here is a pic (not the greatest handlebar detail thou):

[twowheeladdict]

I have a V7 iii Racer and went to a LSL speedbar.  Similar bend as clip ons but 2"-3" higher so much more comfortable.  I want to hang onto my clipons for when I sell it. 

But, very easy to replace your bar with the LSL speedbar. 

Here is a pic (not the greatest handlebar detail thou):

So, the hand position is close to the factory clip ons, just higher for more comfort?  For me the orientation of the Racer clipons is much more comfortable than my stock bar. 

I do have some Laverda multi-adjustable bars that maybe I should test fit for position.  If I like them I guess I could scuff and put a coat of black on them. 

It would be nice to keep the handlebar clamp since it shows how "special" my bike is.  LOL!

[usedtobefast]

Here is a link to a thread talking about the conversion:  https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/racer-handle-bar-raisers.18235/#post-140704
Number of pics in there showing the clip ons vs. handlebar heights.

Here is another (better?) pic:

[Andy1]

When I fitted rearsets to my Mk I Stone I looked at various makes but the advantage of the MG ones is that they fold up in the event of a spill.  As well as saving the footrest itself, folding footrests also allow the bike to slide rather than dig in and roll over.  The MG ones are adjustable and are of good quality - I found some s/hand ones.  Very pleased with them.
AndyB

[kingoffleece]

The Aogostini rearsets have 4 positions available.  Low to high and forward to back.  Each hole is a bit higher and further back that the previous hole with the lowest and most forward mounting point just a bit back and above as delivered stock.

[twowheeladdict]

The Aogostini rearsets have 4 positions available.  Low to high and forward to back.  Each hole is a bit higher and further back that the previous hole with the lowest and most forward mounting point just a bit back and above as delivered stock.

Will those work with the location of the V7III rear brake reservoir?

I wonder why these MG ones say they won't work with ABS bikes.  https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=45609

[Andy1]

I think the V7s with ABS also have lower frame rails (and lower standard footrests) than the earlier non-ABS bikes.  So it may not be to do with the actual ABS itself.
AndyB

[kingoffleece]

Twowheel,
I can't answer that.  Mine is a MK1.
I'd look at Ago's web site and look at the pic.  look for 4 holes going up and back on the support where the pegs mount.

[malik]

Try out the Laverda style multi-adjustables. Work well on the V7C. It does take some tweaking & riding to get them in exactly the right position, but you'll be doing that anyway. Tip:- while you are tweaking and changing the angles, wrap some electrical tape around the bars under the switchblocks, thickly enough so that the proud lug there digs in. You only want to drill the locating holes once.





If you end up wanting clip ons,  the Racer ones do turn up occasionally second hand. Otherwise the Tarozzi range is commonly available, very well made, and they also do a multi-adjustable clip on, not quite so common but a very good idea.

One advantage of lower bars, is that the stock mirrors suddenly become useful, you can now see past your arms & shoulders.

I've found the Racer cables (clutch & throttle) are just that little bit shorter and can be routed a little more neatly. Not essential, merely desirable. I've run into NO problems with the brake lines on either bike, & both have lower bars.

I've an idea that the rear sets may be ABS specific, but have no experience with them. On the V7 C the gear lever fouled the fatter Agostini header pipe going into first, and I had to put spacers behind the plate, but there was no such problem with the 1TB. Go figure.

The III Racer I test rode had a very plush solo seat, top of the range, compared to the basic solo seat of the earlier models. Again, desirable, but not really worth the extra roubles, at least for me - I managed to pick up an extra or 2 when they were selling for E45.

Enjoy,

Mal.

[twowheeladdict]

Thank you all for the info so far. 

[malik]

Then if you want to go the whole hog, not so long ago, it was AF1, I think, was bringing in Ohlins for the V7. That could be interesting.

[malik]

Just found Cadre Cycles Sale - included there are the rearset kit for the V9/V7 III, slightly reduced to $356.

[twowheeladdict]

Then if you want to go the whole hog, not so long ago, it was AF1, I think, was bringing in Ohlins for the V7. That could be interesting.

I already went rebound and compression damping cartridges up front and Bitubo rebound damping on the rear.  The gold Ohlins just didn't look right on my bike. 

Appreciate the suggestion though.   

[twowheeladdict]

Just found Cadre Cycles Sale - included there are the rearset kit for the V9/V7 III, slightly reduced to $356.

Thanks.  I love how they say "SHOULD ALSO FIT ALL V7III MODELS".  I guess I need to give them a call.

These look to be the foot controls that came with the V9s for those who wanted them moved back.  I think some bikes came with both sets. 

[kingoffleece]

Correct.  They did.

[twowheeladdict]

OK, I ordered the rearsets from Cadre after meticulously comparing photos of the V9 and V7.  Looks like the mounting points on the frame rails are the same, just further forward on the V9 so these should put the pegs in about the same position as the OEM racer pegs.

After I get them in I will play around with my multi adjustable laverda bars and see if I can find a comfortable position that allows full lock to lock of the front end.  If I do, then I will see if I can order bars that are close to that position, or just coat them in black and see how it goes.

The only other rearsets that I found that explicitly said they are good for the V7IIIs are the Sato Rearsets.  Not sure I want to go with the knurled aluminum pegs.  I am hoping the OEM rubber vibration damping pegs move over to the V9 rearsets. 

[malik]

That's great. Let us know how you get on.

[gregory]

So did the rear set worked out for you any word of advice or pictures?

[twowheeladdict]

So did the rear set worked out for you any word of advice or pictures?

The V9 rear sets did not work out.  Cadre fortunately was willing to take them back.  There would have been modifications involved to make them work that I wasn't willing to do based on the price I paid. 

I ended up going with the Sato Racing Rear Sets and am very pleased with them.  The bike shifts smoother with them as well.  The only negative is that the pegs are solid mounted so better not drop the bike.

[gregory]

Thats nice that accepted the return i also ordered the rearsets from Agostini lets see how they will fit.

[Yukonica]

The V9 rear sets did not work out.  Cadre fortunately was willing to take them back.  There would have been modifications involved to make them work that I wasn't willing to do based on the price I paid. 

I ended up going with the Sato Racing Rear Sets and am very pleased with them.  The bike shifts smoother with them as well.  The only negative is that the pegs are solid mounted so better not drop the bike.

Had Sato's for the past 65,000km. The anodizing has worn off in places. Had to re-tighten the linkage connection this spring to take up a bit of slop. 'cheap product' lol..
Have tried to avoid dropping the bike but I consider the hard mount as lower located sliders that I haven't had to test.
Also, the Laverda bars are the best investment in ergonomics you will ever make; if Racer's have handle bar mounts. 
Advice : get an Allen key and a socket then spend several hours setting the bars to your body. With wrists straight I could ride a 1000 km a day comfortably.

[twowheeladdict]

Had Sato's for the past 65,000km. The anodizing has worn off in places. Had to re-tighten the linkage connection this spring to take up a bit of slop. 'cheap product' lol..
Have tried to avoid dropping the bike but I consider the hard mount as lower located sliders that I haven't had to test.
Also, the Laverda bars are the best investment in ergonomics you will ever make; if Racer's have handle bar mounts. 
Advice : get an Allen key and a socket then spend several hours setting the bars to your body. With wrists straight I could ride a 1000 km a day comfortably.

I used my adjustable Laverda bars to determine my best riding position and then ended up buying the LSL Aluminum Clubman bars to create the look and riding feel I was after.  The LSL Aluminum Clubman bars put the controls within a 1/4" of the tank at full lock, and I have done 250 mile days in comfort on the bike.

[Yukonica]

What did you do with the Laverda bars? ... Were they the Brevettata or the copy?  (Brevettata isn't actually a brand. Apparently it means  Patented in Italian)
The main difference, to my knowledge, is the quality of the chromium is thicker on the original bars.
Regardless, if you still have the adjustable bars ... Swedish (?) or Italian... they are becoming very scarce.
BTW; like the panniers. Very nice.

[twowheeladdict]

What did you do with the Laverda bars? ... Were they the Brevettata or the copy?  (Brevettata isn't actually a brand. Apparently it means  Patented in Italian)
The main difference, to my knowledge, is the quality of the chromium is thicker on the original bars.
Regardless, if you still have the adjustable bars ... Swedish (?) or Italian... they are becoming very scarce.
BTW; like the panniers. Very nice.

They sit in a box on a shelf in my shop until I need them again on a new bike to determine the optimum handlebar shape. They are nice chrome.   I bought those bars when trying to get the ergonomics right on an '07 Ninja 650.  That was when I realized fully faired bikes can limit handlebar choices so the laverda bars allowed me to experiment without buying many different bars.  I also have a couple sets of 7/8" risers to play with.