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Re: Snake Help !!!
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2021, 06:08:24 PM »
I’ve heard rattlesnake taste like chicken!
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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2021, 06:21:39 PM »
I’ve heard rattlesnake taste like chicken!

Have not been that hungry quite yet 😎

They actually don't seek confrontation but withdraw into the coiling pose with a trick of the tail so to speak, to make you think they are a lot closer than they are.

If I can't step around them, I move them.  Thank goodness I adopted a mature New Mexican dog who instictively knows to keep his distance since the nearest anti-venom is 73 miles away!

One of the evenomation guidelines for medical professionals is "Time is tissue".

I'll spare you the ER envenomation photos.  :wink:
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Re: Snake Help !!!
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2021, 06:24:01 PM »
I’ve heard rattlesnake taste like chicken!
Eh, not so much, it isn't bad though.
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2021, 06:47:15 PM »
We've had two dogs bitten here in SC, most likely by copperheads.  One almost died. She later survived a second bite & both bites were to the face.  The other one died after the first bite.

Most recently, my wife had a opossum here for a brief stay during rehab about a year ago. Among other injuries, It had a fresh vet-confirmed two fang snake bite, likely a copperhead. Opossums are immune to pit viper venom.  The two puncture wounds each swelled to the approx size of a pencil eraser, scabbed over and fell off within 2-3 days.  No issues whatsoever.  Pretty amazing.  Opossums are not very proactive in terms of aggressive action towards other animals or prey beyond small stuff but will engage, kill and eat pit vipers. 
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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2021, 07:01:16 PM »

I've had squirrel and rabbit, chicken fried, on many occasions.  Most were gotten by me and hunting buddies or relatives with .410. .22 or a light load 12 ga.

I'm not sure why you want to use this thread for something more provocative than it really is.  This was simply a discussion about a photo I took of a snake.  I wanted some confirmation that it wasn't particularly dangerous and the snake's identity. 

I'd like to keep it around to patrol moles, voles and gophers that have burrowed in my front yard.  I wonder if some of the chemicals I've used might've chased into my backyard?   

So go ahead and mention guns since I have.  Just don't break the thread.
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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2021, 07:05:06 PM »
Perhaps I need to investigate what's involved with keeping a  pet mongoose around?


In the driveway several days ago:



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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2021, 09:58:23 PM »


I'm not sure why you want to use this thread for something more provocative than it really is.  This was simply a discussion about a photo I took of a snake.  I wanted some confirmation that it wasn't particularly dangerous and the snake's identity. 

I'd like to keep it around to patrol moles, voles and gophers that have burrowed in my front yard.  I wonder if some of the chemicals I've used might've chased into my backyard?   

So go ahead and mention guns since I have.  Just don't break the thread.
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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2021, 10:10:55 PM »
 :rolleyes:
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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2021, 07:20:10 AM »
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As a member posted, there has been an update in #2 of the MG Forum rules and I advise all of the WG forum members revisit those regulations as they will be applied here.

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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2021, 07:48:59 AM »
Now I'm agreeing with Kev m.   :police:   I expect frost tonight in Okla.   :wink:
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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2021, 08:09:37 AM »
Now I'm agreeing with Kev m.   :police:   I expect frost tonight in Okla.   :wink:


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« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2021, 08:17:25 AM »
Dang! I've agreed with him lately, too.. <scratching head>  :smiley:
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« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2021, 05:13:12 PM »
Dang! I've agreed with him lately, too.. <scratching head>  :smiley:

Luckily I still have some Ice Melt left from winter two years ago.  In the mean time, you get the geo thermal fluid fixed in your Indiana air conditioner.   :undecided:
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« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2021, 05:45:55 PM »
Perhaps I need to investigate what's involved with keeping a  pet mongoose around?


In the driveway several days ago:





This said hello to me a few weeks ago at the door to the Moto Grappa.





A juvie, so I've worried about siblings since.  :shocked:


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Re: Snake Help !!!
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2021, 08:10:00 PM »
We have never had rattlesnakes in central NC, until now!
Wife just showed a picture a picture of an Eastern diamondback rattlesnake, just across the way from our house. I’ve lived here all my 68 years and this is the first. I’m lost for an explanation??


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« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2021, 08:19:11 PM »
If a Rattlesnake is on your driveway.   Eazy peezy.


RUN OVER IT!     :blank:




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« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2021, 08:28:34 PM »
No, I appreciate the rodent control!
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« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2021, 08:42:04 PM »
We have never had rattlesnakes in central NC, until now!
Wife just showed a picture a picture of an Eastern diamondback rattlesnake, just across the way from our house. I’ve lived here all my 68 years and this is the first. I’m lost for an explanation??


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I thought that's within their range, even though theyre not common. We're just south of the SC/NC border and they're supposedly around here.  Go a little further south and they're much more common.

But things keep changing.  I saw the first dead armadillo dead on the old I-85 in Spartanburg about a week ago...
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« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2021, 09:16:26 PM »
I thought that's within their range, even though theyre not common. We're just south of the SC/NC border and they're supposedly around here.  Go a little further south and they're much more common.

But things keep changing.  I saw the first dead armadillo dead on the old I-85 in Spartanburg about a week ago...
No, it’s scary kind of strange. They are common 50-75 miles north/west and 50/75 miles south/east of us but not the the Piedmont triad area. At least I’ve never saw one and I’ve spent a lot of time in the woods and fields. This is a first in my lifetime 🤔

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« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2021, 09:55:24 PM »
But things keep changing.  I saw the first dead armadillo dead on the old I-85 in Spartanburg about a week ago...

I haven't seen an armadillo in NC yet, but I saw several dead ones in the Chattanooga TN area two summers ago.
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« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2021, 06:24:53 AM »
No, it’s scary kind of strange. They are common 50-75 miles north/west and 50/75 miles south/east of us but not the the Piedmont triad area. At least I’ve never saw one and I’ve spent a lot of time in the woods and fields. This is a first in my lifetime 🤔

I thought everybody wanted to move to the Triad area?

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« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2021, 12:56:54 PM »
Grabbing and dressing a snake is small potatoes.  When we met, my future wife had a non-releasable rehab 42lb snapping turtle in the nature center that she managed.  His name was Roy.  His head was nearly as big as my fist.   As a result of the damage to his shell and bad floral fiberglass boat patch repair, he had air in his body cavity and developed persistent pneumonia.  so we had to reach in to his enclosure, snatch him up by his tail and stick him into a the corner of a cooler so she could give him shots in his front leg/shoulder.   It was apparently a good way for her to screen potential suitors. Then there was the meds that required we stick a plastic drinking glass over his head instead of using the cooler....   I like eating turtle.  But wife likes turtles, so I haven't cleaned & cooked any snapping turtle for years. 

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« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2021, 03:27:09 PM »
Further reading for anyone interested:

By changing the frequency of its rattling, these venomous snakes let intruders know when they’re too close.

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/rattlesnakes-farther-away-than-they-sound
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« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2021, 07:22:50 PM »
Perhaps I need to investigate what's involved with keeping a  pet mongoose around?


In the driveway several days ago:




That one looks like he means business.


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« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2021, 10:40:35 AM »
Northern Watersnake. Some call them Blacksnakes, often confused with copperheads.
Won't kill you. When I come across them I pick them up by the tail, toss them into a pond or tall grass, just so my dogs don't mess with them.
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They seem to be the nastiest non-venomous snake I run across.  Territorial, mean, and with the anticoagulant in their saliva the bites are nasty.  You're ballsier than I am if you pick them up.

I normally just leave snakes alone, cause they do a good job keeping the population down on animals I like less.   

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« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2021, 11:48:03 AM »
We have never had rattlesnakes in central NC, until now!
Wife just showed a picture a picture of an Eastern diamondback rattlesnake, just across the way from our house. I’ve lived here all my 68 years and this is the first. I’m lost for an explanation??


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Snakes, like all life move around geographically over time. Wildlife migration is a natural phenomenon. It can be precipitated by changes in food supply or predation, geophysical or climate changes or even something as basic as sea level changes.  Plants do it too, by succeeding generations marching along one way or another, they go where the living is good.  Just like humans, why do you think CA wound up with almost 40 million residents? :grin:
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« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2021, 12:00:10 PM »
, they go where the living is good.  Just like humans, why do you think CA wound up with almost 40 million residents? :grin:

And here I thought it was because all the fruit-cakes needed a place to feel at home?!?  :boozing:
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« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2021, 12:24:44 PM »
I'd move to Cali if I could afford to and didn't have some family responsibilities.   Great weather, scenic vistas, great good, great riding roads. 

No wonder I can't afford to move there.
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« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2021, 12:30:52 PM »
They seem to be the nastiest non-venomous snake I run across.  Territorial, mean, and with the anticoagulant in their saliva the bites are nasty.  You're ballsier than I am if you pick them up.

I normally just leave snakes alone, cause they do a good job keeping the population down on animals I like less.   

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Yup.  Just like foraging mushrooms, someone who doesn't clearly know the differences between species shouldn't be fooling with any of them.  An actual black snake is a very docile animal and the complete opposite of an actual banded water snake.  Banded water snakes can be mistaken for a copperhead (although they don't look too much alike if you're knowledgable)  but even a copperhead isn't as proactively terrotorial as a northern banded water snake. 

During a later camping trip at the same state park, we were leaving the nighttime stories & games event after dark with our daughter. While walking out of the small amplitheater, she nearly stepped on a very large copperhead as it crossed the dirt path. It stopped and froze immediately as soon as it moved off dirt and into grass & leaves beside the path- extremely well camouflaged and essentially invisible.  Very cool.   We were glad to both not get bit and to see it.  Gorgeous snake that wasn't bothering anyone.

But for some reason, the park's event guy (not sure he was a full-fledged ranger) called everyone over as he kneels down directly over it and vigorously patted the ground on either side of the copperhead with his face barely a foot above the snake.  And he wouldn't quit.  What an idiot, both for what he was doing and the example he was providing on bothering the wildlife.  We went on the the truck before he got bit and we had obligation to assist. 

Now, If that had been a water snake, he would have been immediately wearing it....
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« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2021, 12:34:51 PM »
I'd move to Cali if I could afford to and didn't have some family responsibilities.   Great weather, scenic vistas, great good, great riding roads. 

No wonder I can't afford to move there.

Ok, jokes aside, you're not wrong.

But it's also got wild fires, mudslides, earthquakes, taxes as bad as NJ and property costs that are even worse.

I love the diversity of culture and cuisine there though.

And if we're being completely honest, I was pleasantly surprised at another seemingly small but potentially very significant cultural difference - food portions in restaurants.

It seems they are much more likely to offer realistic or smaller sized entrees in restaurants. It was really noticeable last time I visited (at least in Northern CA from San Fran to Tahoe). And it's probably a much healthier way to eat. You can finish a dish and not feel like you overindulged.

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