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Offline Muzz

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To The Computer Techies. Recommendations Please.
« on: December 24, 2019, 02:14:51 PM »
Our son is not all that computer savvie.  We are currently looking for a decent anti virus, anti malware suite that has secure banking, password manager etc. etc, but at an affordable price.

We have used Avast free, along with Malwarebytes and I do regular checks up until now, and so far we have escaped anything major.  We have just finished a 60 day free trial of the Avast offering, but it is quite expensive and they did not offer a reduced price when we canned it (Guzzi content :rolleyes:).

I am now asking our amazing Guzzi fraternity what their recommendations are, with reasons why you think that way.   If it is relatively affordable we would put it on three computers.  So far my research shows Bitdefender to be a reasonable option, although backup appears to be patchy at times.

I will be holidaying in the boonies for about 10 days so replies may be patchy; cell phone coverage can be "sporadic" for want of a better word.  Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2019, 02:24:34 PM »
I've been using ESET NOD32 Antivirus on four computers since Christ was a cowboy (well, perhaps not that long).  Never had a virus get past the protection.  I'll stick with it until proved wrong.

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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2019, 02:54:03 PM »
I've been using ESET NOD32 Antivirus on four computers since Christ was a cowboy (well, perhaps not that long).  Never had a virus get past the protection.  I'll stick with it until proved wrong.

Does this also have password protection/ live malware protection Dave?
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2019, 08:40:29 PM »
Yes, and yes.

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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2019, 09:43:01 AM »
I just use the defender that is built in. Why 'infect' your computer with bloated software that you have to pay for?
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2019, 10:17:31 AM »
I just use the defender that is built in. Why 'infect' your computer with bloated software that you have to pay for?

Wayne. I have the "free" AVG package.  Should I delete it?
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2019, 11:14:49 AM »
Wayne. I have the "free" AVG package.  Should I delete it?

If you have the lasted Win 10, and keep it up to date, I would delete it. Win 10 defender has worked well for me, and most reviews say it is adequate.

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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2019, 12:27:08 PM »
as a comcast user (/victim) i am using the norton suite that comes with my internet subscription.  sure, i don't pay a separate monthly fee for it but the damned thing is bloatware supreme.  it sucks up an inordinate amount of my cpu's attention span and is constantly running some variety of chores in background. i don't use it specifically for banking and i have other software that i use for browser protection. all in all i find the norton to be vampiritic and am questioning my use of it.



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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2019, 01:34:47 PM »
There is no answer to this and I don't care who says otherwise. I've seen computers with all the main operating systems come into my shop with viruses, malware, rogues, rootkits, spam, spyware, adware, etc and they've had all the popular antivirus programs on them. The problem is that ALL antivirus programs are at minimum 12 hours behind, always playing catch-up to the troublemakers that create the damned things for malicious intentions.

The only answer is to exercise safe browsing habits behind a good firewall. Stay away from the obviously bad sites like adult oriented, gambling, file sharing, etc.

If you practice safe browsing habits behind a good firewall and/or DNS service (like opendns), you should be fine running free antivirus programs, or even the built in one of Windows 10.  If you are running W10, you need to be on release 1909. To find which version you have, type winver in the search line and hit enter. Anything less than 1909 is obsolete. Also, sleep is the absolute worse thing you can do to your computers. Disable sleep, enable a screensaver and leave that thing on 24/7 so it'll update, run scans, etc at night.

FWIW, I've been using the free version of Avast since around 2001. You have to configured it to run nightly scans and updates and it's almost as good as the paid version.

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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2019, 04:33:08 PM »
If you are running W10, you need to be on release 1909. To find which version you have, type winver in the search line and hit enter. Anything less than 1909 is obsolete.

Interesting.  I'm running Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.535).  I can't find anywhere to update it further.  Perhaps I'm already infected?   :shocked:

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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2019, 06:51:34 PM »
Interesting.  I'm running Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.535).  I can't find anywhere to update it further.  Perhaps I'm already infected?   :shocked:

Nah, just go to settings and check for updates.
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2019, 10:25:09 PM »
So managed to get Windows to update, and I'm now up to speed (version 1909).

Haven't noticed any difference.

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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2019, 11:03:55 PM »
So managed to get Windows to update, and I'm now up to speed (version 1909).

Haven't noticed any difference.

This is because 1909 ist nothing much more than an extended "normal" update of 1903. Same kernel, a lot of bugfixes, general cleanup. Nearly no new features. To add to the prior posts (especially Luaps): When you use the built-in Windows safety program Defender is only a part of the safety strategy of Windows. The whole "Microsoft Security"  - settings should be scrutinized and switched to the (for the user and machine) best settings. And - if the computer can handle it: put the Defender in the sandbox (Power Shell as admin, "setx /M MP_FORCE_USE_SANDBO X 1"). And if you have to take a look on suspicious websites, the "Defender Application Guard" helps - at least if you use Edge. The Defender Application Guard Companion allows the secure usage of other browsers.
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2020, 01:30:51 PM »
Thanks guys. Now back in the land of the living where I can get those magic radio waves and things. :grin:

Will musillate on the replies and see what is the best option for him.  Appreciate the responses.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2020, 02:01:55 PM »
I went full Windows on my computer to include the $100/year for the cloud based Office.  It updates itself and I've never had a problem; Defender is as good as any of the products I would guess.

For banking I mostly use the droid and sandboxed apps.

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