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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2019, 10:02:16 AM »
They are sales to dealer numbers. Not retail. Just look at the 16, 17's rotting away here.
To sell 10,000 they need to sell 5000 of them here and the five remaining dealers can't do it. The greed and poor business model of the importer and the market in general in the US has to change.
That being said I have every intention of buying a red V85 and have sold the 2015 V7 to make room.
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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2019, 12:24:57 PM »
So I’m the only shmuck wondering where these numbers came from? 

I did a google search but came up empty.   I’ll ask a third time, they say it’s the charm!  What ya say Luap, can you toss me a bone on this one?

If not, I’ll stop asking, it’s not as though I’ll have anything worthwhile to add.
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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2019, 01:08:34 PM »
Unfortunately I do not know where the Italian statistics are published. The German number of new registrations can be found here:https://www.bikeundbusiness.de/index.cfm?pid=11925&type=0&year=2018

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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2019, 05:07:16 PM »
Thanks TalbotMatra.
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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2019, 05:07:16 PM »

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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2019, 09:59:05 PM »
Wow, have you guys seen the numbers from Piaggio for North America, very surprising!
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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2019, 10:16:03 PM »
Wow, have you guys seen the numbers from Piaggio for North America, very surprising!
No, where are they?

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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2019, 10:23:08 PM »
 Uh , Luap has contacts fellas .

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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2019, 07:51:41 PM »
So I’m the only shmuck wondering where these numbers came from? 

I did a google search but came up empty.   I’ll ask a third time, they say it’s the charm!  What ya say Luap, can you toss me a bone on this one?

If not, I’ll stop asking, it’s not as though I’ll have anything worthwhile to add.

Someone in Italy shared those numbers on a private page I'm a member of.
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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2019, 12:49:57 PM »
My faith in humanity has be saved! Thanks Luap.
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Re: Sales numbers. Interesting...
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2019, 01:30:48 PM »
Going back a couple decades (!) it seemed that the North America market was about 10% of Guzzi sales.  On a good year Guzzi would make about 7,000 machines and about 700 would come to NA.  When you split that 700 into the various models the numbers of each model were pretty small.  I suspect the 10% ratio is still a pretty good rule of thumb.  The surprising part of this thread is how the V7 line dominates Guzzi sales.  Not that long ago the V7 line was 50% of world wide sales.  From these Italian sales it looks like everything other than the V7 is an afterthought.  I have high hopes for the V85.  Last week I was at Daytona Bike Week and Guzzi was nowhere to be seen.

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