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It looks like I may be able to pick up new-old-stock 2016/2017 Stelvio. I have done plenty of research and can no longer remember if some of the concerns I have have been addressed or not.1) EFI Fueling - I don't recall if it was the first generation bike (4 gallon tank) or the new version (2012ish with 8 gallon tank) that supposedly had pretty serious fueling issues. If I buy a brand new bike, I'll do a fly and ride to the other side of the US and do not have a local dealer to do any sort of ECU flash to get it to run properly. Is fueling basically sorted out?2) Highway pegs. I sold a fantastic BMW R1200GS and the biggest reason was that horizontal engine. I really like to get my legs stretched out in front of me and that layout simply made that impossible. I am assuming this V-Engine will allow for highway pegs, even if I have to remove the halogen lights currently mounted to the crash bars.3) Power outlets. I believe the bike comes with one 12 volt outlet. Any idea how many amps I can draw? I hope up to 10 for a heated jacket or air compressor.4) LCD display. On the older generation Stelvio, the gauge supposedly only had indications for full, half, quarter and empty. Are there more gradations on the current bike?5) What is the interval for valve checks?6) Since this bike will have the updated valve train, can I expect the bike to be reliable for 100,000 miles assuming I take care of it?7) Similar to the EFI fueling, does the bike run okay at lower revs or does it need to be kept over 4,000 rpm all the time.Sorry for so many questions but this is the place to do it.NC
It looks like I may be able to pick up new-old-stock 2016/2017 Stelvio. I have done plenty of research and can no longer remember if some of the concerns I have have been addressed or not.1) EFI Fueling - I don't recall if it was the first generation bike (4 gallon tank) or the new version (2012ish with 8 gallon tank) that supposedly had pretty serious fueling issues. If I buy a brand new bike, I'll do a fly and ride to the other side of the US and do not have a local dealer to do any sort of ECU flash to get it to run properly. Is fueling basically sorted out?<snip>
NC,just wondering where are you located and where were you thinking of doing the "fly and ride" to?Gerry
In order as you asked...1) The stock map is OK but not great - after you have the bike home, you will probably want a new map for the best performance/economy/smoothness results.2) Highway pegs in the classic sense will be elusive. You have to come to grips with the physical size, position and orientation of the engine.3) There is a 12v outlet on the dash cowl, and another beneath the seat exposed to the storage space there. The available power is much more than those two outlets can deliver, and I suggest a supplemental fuse block such as those available from Eastern Beaver for things like heated clothing and other accessories.4) The NTX dash shows a fuel display with five segments and six steps (including 'you're about to go dry, buddy!'), as well as a reserve light that comes on partway through the second to last step.5) Recommended interval is in the user and service manuals, but real world experience with the CARC bikes suggests that after the first couple of services you can do this every 12,000. On the other hand, it's so easy why worry about the effort of doing it?6) With reasonable care, any of the CARC bikes can be expected to go many miles. My 2v Norge needed a rear seal (and a bearing since I was there) at 75,000. It needed a starter at 95,000. It will be getting a clutch at around 140,000 (next month or so) just because it's slipping a wee bit and I can do it, and while I'm having that done I'll have other engine stuff like the cam chain ans such checked and dealt with as needed. I have 29,000 on my 8V Stelvio, and I'm about to start thrashing a Griso 8V that just arrives. These bikes will last if cared for reasonably.7) Revs are a matter of choice and riding style, though some bikes have 'preferences'. My 2008 2V Norge loves being in the 3000-5500 range, with cruising right around 4000. This reflects the engine and the fact that I use it as a long-distance highway machine. The 2013 Stelvio 8V tends to be happier at a bit higher RPMs, maybe another 1000 (4000-6500); I haven't had a chance to really learn what the Griso likes, but since it's a 2012 roller 8V like the Stelvio I expect it will be a bit more rev-happy. Let's face it, it's a big V-twin, so it's inherently a torque-oriented engine, but you will quickly, easily and pleasantly figure out what works best for your riding style.For the right price (which you will easily find), these are immensely capable, enjoyable, and truly captivating motorcycles. Otherwise, why would I have bought three?
I got my 2016 Stelvio from Moto International in Seattle. I was only able to get 300 some miles on it before winter showed up but I think it ran great.
I don't understand the need to change the fueling map. I rode my '12 for three years of touring with the latest factory map without difficulty. It ran fine. It was basically stock except the charcoal canister had been disarmed. It also had the stock muffler and O2 sensors.If I were buying another new Stelvio, I would install a Fuze Block to support my electrical accessories and in-line fuses in the wiring to the Hella Fog Lamps to protect from blowing the 30A fuse that controls the charging circuit.
I'll either replace the Halogens with LED's or just remove them altogether. If I have the dealer replace them I'll see if he can take care of the wiring. I recall this issue but can't remember if what triggers the blown fuse is in the light or wiring. If it is in the light then a direct replacement will solve that issue anyway. NC
I should have been clear about item #2. Supposedly bikes were nearly unrideable Any idea how many watts the alternator puts out? I am guessing in the 400 to 500 range.NC
I'll either replace the Halogens with LED's or just remove them altogether. If I have the dealer replace them I'll see if he can take care of the wiring. I recall this issue but can't remember if what triggers the blown fuse is in the light or wiring. If it is in the light then a direct replacement will solve that issue anyway.NC
Sure you can have Highway pegs! I spend lot of time resting my legs on these...And 3 years later I still have the dealer fuel map. Its ok, could be better if youre picky. You can definitely ride across USA with original map....
Where the '09 bikes might have had a poor map, everything from about '12 on came with a pretty good map. To say that the bike was unridable sounds like a tester who was determined to find a fault. As for the alternator, I recall it putting out 800 watts....more than enough to power anything you can carry on the bike other than a microwave oven.
I have nothing to Add other then I am in Spokane and the snows not going to last you can not believe the Weather People their job is to Hype the Weather. Stay in touch. A bunch of us all get together at the Rocket Market first Wed on the Month starting soon open to any
Did you have him ship the bike to you? Maybe you did a Fly and Ride back to upstate NY and then had to park the bike for the winter after 300 additional miles? Spokane felt like spring last week but we may get snow Thursday - Sunday. If not, I'll drive over to Seattle to look at one of their Stelvios.NC
Oh, and now that I look at this picture, you want to get rid of the mirrors with the turn signals installed. They break.Replace them with the Aprilia (I think) Sport Mirrors (without the turn signals) and relocate the turn signals to the European/UK location in the front fairing. All the parts are available and the wiring is all set up for this change.
.... it appears that the Stelvio �all turn signals will fail� is same nonsense. I did Trans Labrador Highway with my mirrors, it�s pretty much worst imaginable washboard and hundreds of miles nothing but gravel and potholes. My mirrors and turn signals are just fine. I�ll do Los Angeles-Pennsylvania in June, Let�s see if the Colorado mountain passes can break them? If they fail, maybe it�s time for a chance..
My last question. Is there a standout dealer somewhere in the South Eastern US anybody here would recommend? I won't ask for negative reviews but if there is a place you would send your out of state buddy to for a fly and ride please let me know. PM may be better than an inline reply.NC
The single plate flywheel problem is well documented. If you've been lucky? Good for you! I notice you no longer have the bike.When I bought mine it was the first thing I binned.Pete
If I do a fly and ride it will be somewhere in the South East. I'd like to hit St. Augustine and Key West so the closer to Florida the better.