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For a beginner, I'd be happier recommending an Enfield single - the 300 & the 500 are similar weights, the riding position is comfortable and the footpegs are a short step to the ground (important when learning), the handing is exceptionally light, and they are by no means intimidating. They are easy to pick up when they go over (you will drop it, it's normal, even after you've got the hang of things), economical to run, fairly cheap to buy, I've a maye of around 120kg (fluctuating), although an experienced rider, really enjoys knocking around on his 300, albeit a second bike in the garage. They are just so easy to ride. Whatever bike you go on to after that, you'll always have a soft spot for the long stroke single.
My comments, circa Feb 2017, are still valid for V7II:1. Love the low end torque...and I am already accustomed to H-D Sportsters.2. Love the 5.8 gallon fuel tank3. Love the light weight (436#)4. Love accessibility for checking spark plugs5. Love the black powder coated alloy wheels (does not show grime and I really appreciate tubeless tires)6. Love key access to seat removal (two bolts on Bonneville and one bolt on Sportsters)7. Love the seat height...not too low...not to high8. Love the storage under the seat for a small tool bag, spare fuses, spare spark plugs, 6x9 zip lock bag of schematics, etc.9. Love readability of the gauges...although the numbers could be a tad bigger for 70 year old eyes10. Love the ground clearance and lean angle capabilities11. Love the shaft drive12. Air filter (AP8104924) is inexpensive at $8 - $913. Spark plugs (NGK CPR8EB-9) can be ordered from O'Reilly's for $4.49 each14. Yuasa YTX14-BS battery equivalent is stocked at my local O'Reillys (ETX14), a factory filled AGM for $102.9915. The 3 relays (headlight on after startup, start and injectors) are the same part number (AP8224462) and are only about $716. Appreciate easy access to air filter, fuses and battery, although 3 relays are under the fuel tank17. Most sensors (and injectors) are easy access (right head temp, oil pressure switch, engine RPM, etc), but some are not (neutral switch, TPS, coils)18. Seat has been comfortable for up 6 hour days, thus far; whereas both Sportsters and Bonneville seat required upgrades for more than 50 miles.Negative was fueling issues, which I understand V7III resolved.How good is the local MG dealer?Not happy with the one in Las Vegas.
I learned on a BMW R100 a long time ago. It's roughly equivalent to a V7 in weight and size and power. It's a fine size to learn on. My first question is: have you sat on one? Comfort is hugely important. If it's not comfortable, don't buy it. If it's comfortable, you'll be fine.I'd call around about the mechanics. Ask here, obviously, if anyone is available in your area. Don't fall for the old "Guzzis are easy to work on. Do the maintenance yourself." The fact is: Guzzis are easy to work on but if you don't want to do it, don't do it. There are lot's of Asian machines out there in the same rough size and weight class and they probably have dealers in your area.
Having owned a V7, I'd say it's a perfect beginner's bike. Relatively low and light with not too much grunt but enough to keep you happy when you're more experienced.
Unfortunately, most Asian standard bikes have a modern (futuristic) appearance. The few classically styled ones, such as the Kawasaki W800, don't equal the the V7's specifications.
another great thumper is the Suzuki Savage (S-60) which is easy to ride, wont go too fast and is a bit heavier making it stable for a heavier rider. Otherwise the RE Bullet would be a good choice..as well as the V7 I suspect. Get proper training,,too many people not paying attention on the road these days.
Truthyness there. Aesthetically, some of those Asian bikes are, um, unfortunate looking. I hope someone is close and will let you try one. Here's a site to check ergos:https://cycle-ergo.com/
I’m with Mr. Fish. Some bikes just make my eyes hurt.Get something beautiful.
Ok, I'll be the odd person here and recommend a Suzuki SV-650, 2017 or newer. Reasons for a SV-650: Way more dealers, better suspension and brakes, better resale value if you decide you don't like riding or decide to move to a bigger/faster bike in the future, nothing quirky or odd about it, ridiculously reliable, does everything well, has no real issues, can usually fine a decent clean used one, can also find great discounts on new ones.If you are mechanically inclined, like you replace your car/truck alternator, a Guzzi is very easy to take care of. But ... all sorts of quirky things. Like a sticker on the bike and the service manual lists different valve clearance specs. The service manual, on the same page, list two different ways on checking the oil level (one place says screw in the dipstick, 1/3 page lower it says not to) ... also says to drive it 10 miles before checking the oil level vs. the Suzuki's sight glass (so 3 seconds to do a check). Oil quantity ... put in the amount listed in the service manual and that is too much. Transmission oil level listed as too much (probably because there is some residual left in there when changing?). 1/2 plastic & 1/2 metal fuel filter in tank. Get the clutch cable adjustment wrong and you kill your throwout bearing. Suspension is very basic. And more.So if you like machinery and paying attention to it and caring for it, a Moto Guzzi can be a wonderful thing. But if you just want to add gas, press start button, and go, the SV-650 has zero quirks. Also, you might want to check out the V-Strom 650. It sits a bit taller, has more seat/peg/ground room. But is is like 70lbs heavier and around $1000 more expensive.
Hey Doc, great to hear from you again, albeit on the “other side.”My V7C had a very sensitive rear brake and was prone to locking. Not sure if this was resolved on later generations, but that would be my only caveat in recommending a V7 for a new rider. Otherwise, it’s a very mild and agile bike, but it’ll move out when you need to.
I think a V7 small block is about the perfect “beginner bike.” Mild enough to learn on. But so capable that you may never “outgrow” it. Heck, even if you think you outgrew it, you may find yourself downsizing and returning to the same recipe 10 years later.
Hello, I'm a beginner rider and quite a large Individual. It's for this reason that a sub-300cc first motorcycle isn't an option. I'm attempting to find a balance between a lighter weight bike with a conservative cylinder capacity and a bike that's big enough to adequately and safely support me.I've done extensive research and when compared on a spreadsheet with other makes/models with similar specifications, I found that the V7 III Stone might best check the boxes, with its 461 lbs curb weight, 744cc engine, 463 lbs weight capacity and upright seating position.I wish to ask the forum if it might be too much bike for a beginner though? I admit that I'm feeling sorta intimidated. Thank you.
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