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My Lemans SE project thread - update 2024
« on: March 29, 2016, 09:02:43 PM »
This is going to take a while. I haven't come up with a plan yet... maybe a dr john replica?











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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2016, 09:25:04 PM »
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2016, 09:56:04 PM »
A little off-topic, but what has become of Dr. John Wittner?
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2016, 09:56:57 PM »
Wow! Even more of a project than my '86 Le Mans 1000.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2016, 11:49:15 PM »
I like to think of it as starting with a clean slate  :grin:  I don't think a restoration is feasible. The motor is supposed to be a monster.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2016, 05:19:39 AM »
Here at Dave's home for wayward Guzzis I like projects.  But that may be a little over the top.  Lots a work, could make a cool bike out of it though.  Good luck and keep us posted on the project.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2016, 08:30:20 AM »
What's not to like? Tank, triples, frame, engine and apparently spares are there. I've done worse airplane projects.. :evil: :smiley:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2016, 10:11:56 AM »
Did you get the transmission with the project? Looks like a great one to have in storage-to-be-worked on.

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2016, 11:07:32 AM »
 I may have a few left over parts if u need something let me know.  Have a complete breva fork assy if that helps....
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2016, 08:15:39 PM »
Got the original motor and the race motor, original se close ratio tranny a spare (maybe eldo?) forks, and a set of custom billet triple clamps. I need everything that goes between the tranny and the rear wheel ( besides the swing arm). I'm not sure what kind of rear differential would be the sturdiest. Also I'd like a front wheel and axel, 16" would be fine.  :grin:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2016, 09:14:57 PM »
Congratulations!! A little bit of spot & polish and she'll be just like new!  :grin:

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2016, 10:30:36 PM »
Project?

Quest more like it.

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2016, 11:04:44 PM »
I need everything that goes between the tranny and the rear wheel ( besides the swing arm). I'm not sure what kind of rear differential would be the sturdiest.

Hard to go wrong with the original type rear drive with 7/33 gears. Driveshaft and coupler are available new for under $100 at MG Cycle, a new u-joint is ~ $237. 
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2016, 03:48:49 AM »
Project?

Looks more like building a dinosaur from a toenail.

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2016, 10:07:37 AM »
Project?

Looks more like building a dinosaur from a toenail.

Good luck.

At least he's starting with the CORRECT DNA!!  :thumb:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2016, 10:15:44 AM »
Also I'd like a front wheel and axel, 16" would be fine.  :grin:

I have an original 16" front wheel I can donate to your project for the cost of shipping. Let me know if you can use it.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2016, 10:38:32 AM »
So who was Dave's Cycles?  Maybe a restoration would be considered? 
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2016, 10:46:15 AM »
So who was Dave's Cycles?  Maybe a restoration would be considered?

Dave Blue? Terry would know that one.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2016, 10:49:33 AM »
Any progress photos? Just wondering if you are done yet....  :angel:
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2016, 11:35:11 AM »
Dave Blue? Terry would know that one.

My thinking was rather than a Dr Jon Replica why not Dave's Cycle resto(mod)?  The bike might have history all it's own.  ANd you could still trick it out with Dr J parts and stuff. 
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2016, 12:06:23 PM »
My thinking was rather than a Dr Jon Replica why not Dave's Cycle resto(mod)?  The bike might have history all it's own.  ANd you could still trick it out with Dr J parts and stuff.
I like this idea.  Find the history and see what story you might tell for years to come.  I love doing the Dr. John stuff, but it looks like it was close to it anyhow... by appearance anyhow.  You might find exact.pics to go by with a little research through this Dave cat.  That would be a find.  Fun stuff. 
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2016, 01:13:23 PM »
that is a nice start of a project!
at least you can mod anything you want, you are not destroying a original classic
i built myself a ducati F1 , started with just the frame.
basically i can fit whatever suspension i want, no worries about originality.

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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2016, 08:01:08 PM »
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My thinking was rather than a Dr Jon Replica why not Dave's Cycle resto(mod)?  The bike might have history all it's own.  ANd you could still trick it out with Dr J parts and stuff. 
I'm leaning that way now. Dave's Cycle was the local Ducati, Guzzi, Morini, and Triumph dealer . They also raced and this was Daves racebike until he switched to a 900SS.http://www.teamwreckless.com/home.html. I've known about this bike since about 1991. I'm not sure if I'd want to clear the tank of have it re-painted.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2016, 09:21:30 PM »
Forks! The bottom triple clamp will need some grinding.









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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2016, 09:59:38 PM »
I like that fork brace. Would like one for mine...
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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2016, 01:34:21 AM »
Looks Like Its Using An Earlier Short Head Frame, Not The Mk IV One.

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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2016, 03:05:59 AM »
The forks are currently on half of a 1980 G5 frame that was experimentally monoshocked and had the steering head geometry altered. That frame is going in the trash as soon as I get the forks off.
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« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2016, 07:18:24 AM »
It could happen...



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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2016, 04:15:43 PM »
Dave and Kathy use to own Dave's Cycles in Mesa.  I bought my Daytona 1000 from them. They sold it and the owner that bought the dealership is/was not a customer service type person.  Last time I saw them I had lunch with them near their home in Queen Creek.  Kathy use to be the "monkey" when they use to race sidecars.  Buffalo, NY area IIRC.
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Re: My new Lemans SE project
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2016, 01:08:20 AM »
I'm going to start this to document my progress. Motor and tranny have been checked, clutch and plates like new. Fresh paint on drivetrain!
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