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OK mate, you just need the RIGHT screwdrivers. I have a very old set of 5 and for this I would be using either the largest or the next down. You have to brutally raise the end of that circlip, yes it is stiff, but once you get something jammed under it you should then use a second one next to it to work your way round. It has a very wide opening so it shouldn't take more than two leverages before it pops out.The very small drivers are not robust enough. Alternatively as someone else suggested use an awl as that point should go in and bring one end out a little.However if this still challenges you then give up right now and send it to someone who knows what the hell they are doing. Because the way you are going you will simply destroy a very expensive bit of gear for what? To salve your ego? Not worth the effort my friend.
have you done this procedure? a large screwdriver cannot fit in the slot that the ring sits in. this is not my first experience of circlips or similar. the ring moves around its slot preventing getting underneath it. something about this very easily removable ring is not right. i dont know if someone has been in this before and buggered it about but this will simply not move. there is not enough room to get anything under it, believe me i have extensive tools to be able to do this.fella, this is not about ego. i am trying to do things myself and learn...nothing to do with ego. thanks for your really helpful advice. i thought this was a respectful forum.
I know your feathers are ruffled, but take a deep breath. I also know you are new here, and don't know one poster from another. You have received advice from some quite knowledgeable people that have done this job before.
Hey Fella , I actually meant the larger ones from the Jewellers set, but hey, go forth and learn , though from what I've read you appear reluctant to do so. And maybe your ego is not at stake but your bevel box certainly is.
Easy Sir. You have some very experienced guys here attempting to help you with this endeavor. I have not seen a foul here. Just give it a chance to get a more clear explanation👍Dan
Is the bearing race up against the clip trapping it in place? Maybe (heat and) press the bearing race away from the clip for more working room.
Thanks Dan, i have appreciated the comments from more learned persons than myself. i think its clear those who have been helpful and those that have not, and i have responded in kind.
Is the bearing race up against the clip trapping it in place? Maybe (heat and) press the bearing race away from the clip for more working room.thanks Wayne for some constructive help here. yes, i think you are correct that the clip appears to be trapped against the race which is why it appears to not be moving which might have been as a result of me applying heat earlier in the process. if i am unlikely to damage it with more heat i can give it a go.
thanks for all the help guys. i am totally frustrated with this issue and have perhaps taken some comments on board in a way they were probably not intended. my apologies.i will have another crack at it but feel that the ring is buggered which is why it won't come out. cutting the bearing race would be quite drastic as they're 60 quid a go and second hand bevel drives are expensive. i can see me reassembling it and just painting the backing plate.thanks.
Heat the bearing race a LOT using hot air. (flame is TOO much)Tap the bearing race away from the clip a tiny bit, being slow and careful. (and lots of heat on the race)Once you have a tiny gap there, using tiny screw drives or ice pick type tools, use your three hands to spread the gap and slip it off.Just avoid too much caffeine so you don't go overboard.
thanks for all the help guys. i am totally frustrated with this issue and have perhaps taken some comments on board in a way they were probably not intended. my apologies.
I will try this in the morning, thank you. i fear that my application of heat (flame) resulted in the ring becoming immovable now. doh.
how would you go about ensuring all the tiny bits of the washer are hoovered up? i was thinking dragging a very small magnet all over it, followed by some literal hoovering up. dont want any of this to get into the main bearing. dont have a magnifying glass but will take some macros if my phone will do it and have a good luck. every chance i mushroomed it. the bearing race didnt change colour so that should be okay for some heat gun heat tomorrow. will report back.
...indeed, the ring was trapped...not sure how as i hadn't given it any force downwards. either way it's out now so i can then look at stripping the rest of it.
In this photo, are there scratches in the metal spindle above the bearing race?If so, that may be a very very bad thing. I think the oil seal down in the housing rides on that.
Finally.Quote from: Pescatore on July 08, 2022, 09:01:48 AMI was silently cheering you on.So how did you get the ring out exactly? Is reassembly the same?Do you have to replace the ring?I followed Wayne's instructions and it was so easy! no wonder i couldn't fathom why i couldn't get it out, but heat gun, impact driver on the race and a gentle tap and it almost fell out! this is my best win this year. i did use the small bladed screwdriver to hold one end of the ring still whilst really gently using a pick on the other end...it was like the ring saw it coming and just jumped out. so happy. yes, i presume reassembly is the reverse. absolutely replacing the ring.I would GENTLY rub a whetstone ONLY ON THE VERY EDGE of that to make sure there is not high spot on the nick. The low spot on the edge should not matter.
I was silently cheering you on.So how did you get the ring out exactly? Is reassembly the same?Do you have to replace the ring?
I followed Wayne's instructions and it was so easy! no wonder i couldn't fathom why i couldn't get it out, but heat gun, impact driver on the race and a gentle tap and it almost fell out! this is my best win this year. i did use the small bladed screwdriver to hold one end of the ring still whilst really gently using a pick on the other end...it was like the ring saw it coming and just jumped out. so happy. yes, i presume reassembly is the reverse. absolutely replacing the ring.I would GENTLY rub a whetstone ONLY ON THE VERY EDGE of that to make sure there is not high spot on the nick. The low spot on the edge should not matter.i shall do this, thanks.there are scratches in the spindle...i haven't been out to the garage to have a look so not sure what kind of problem that might cause. again, a very fine wet and dry gentle rub around that exposed part of the spindle might help? any way of checking in advance with a test to see if leakage is a certainty?cheers.
Sigh. https://www.skf.com/au/products/industrial-seals/power-transmission-seals/wear-sleeves/skf-speedi-sleevePhil