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Removing Norge Airbox
smdl:
--- Quote from: Bill Hagan on January 17, 2015, 09:25:49 PM ---First, as with most of my responses to any post that poses a remotely technical question, well ... don't expect much. ::)
Now with that (nonetheless) accurate disclaimer said, let me say that I have pulled the air box on my 2007 Norge more than once -- and got everything back together and it all still works! Obvious point is anybody can do it and not break anything.
OK, here's what I recall. It took way more "oomph" -- to get off and in (harder than off, as I recall; sorry) than made me comfortable.
You mention cold. Are you doing this in an unheated garage? If so, well, first, condolences. Second, admiration. And, third, heck, you just might want to figure out some way to warm those up to work with 'em. Oops; sorry. Them. Annoys your fellow countryman Nick949 to contract "them." ;D
Seriously, most of the curses and scraped body parts I've had with Guzzis have involved air boxes and throttle bodies. A pox on the designers. :'(
So, hope someone with recent experience chimes in to help you ... and, actually, me, too, as I will be pulling mine off again in the next month or so.
Best,
Bill
Edited to add that I very much doubt the inner plugs really need changing. In fact, IMO, the only good reason to do at your low mileage is to put some anti seize on them so that they aren't an unmitigated PITA to remove when needed.
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Hi, Bill.
Yes, I am working in a garage that is both unheated and uninsulated. I'm usually good down to about -5c, and have gone as low as -15c, but metal tools really start to hurt, by that point. I'm nowhere near Nick's level of manliness, though -- he's probably halfway to the Arctic Circle on his NF, right now, wearing nothing but a high-vis Speedo, and narrating on-the-fly (with impeccable grammar and diction, as always). ;D Seriously, there's a guy worthy of respect -- I just run back to the living room when I get chilly!
Thanks, for sharing your experience with the air box. Sounds like I just need to be a bit more persuasive, and maybe point a heater at it for awhile first. By the way, I know that the inner plugs are probably fine. It just seems to make sense to change them out while I have the bike stripped down this far already. Anti-seize is definitely part of the plan!
Cheers,
Shaun
smdl:
Thanks for the tips, all. One question that remains in my mind, though, relates to the snorkels that attach to the throttle bodies. Do these retract into the air box, at all, or do they simply pop off as the box is lifted?
Cheers,
Shaun
blackcat:
--- Quote from: smdl on January 18, 2015, 07:37:30 AM ---Thanks for the tips, all. One question that remains in my mind, though, relates to the snorkels that attach to the throttle bodies. Do these retract into the air box, at all, or do they simply pop off as the box is lifted?
Cheers,
Shaun
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There is a lip around the snorkels which seats them in the box. As you pull off the box they should stay in place. When I re-install the box I reach inside and adjust the snorkels so they seat properly.
guzzisteve:
The intake rubbers on the box stay connected. They don't slide in. You take off the clamps, push them in against box flat to slide up w/airbox on inside of frame. When you pop up the back side 2" stop and take off drain hose and put a long tie wrap around it, so it stays in place and doesn't drop down. Silicone spray will help.
I would clean out throttle bodies while you have it out, I do this every 12K service.
smdl:
Excellent! Thanks BC and GS.
By the way, guzzisteve, you were the first WG member I met when I got my initial Guzzi. That was in 2010 -- I bought my 2003 V11 Le Mans in FL, and stopped in at Rider's Hill on the way home the next day to have the original tires swapped out. You were working at the lift next to the guy that was changing my tires, and were very helpful to him in ensuring that the fork wouldn't bind. You also gave me a little run-down on how the crazy 6-speed gearbox in this model seems a bit like a Swiss watch. Probably nothing but a few passing comments from your perspective, but I wanted to let you know that it meant a lot to me, and was instrumental in forming my initial impression of how nice/helpful members of the Guzzi community are. That impression certainly hasn't changed, and I'd like to thank you for both your initial and ongoing help.
Cheers,
Shaun
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