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Full time V85 rain mode
« on: October 27, 2021, 02:35:05 PM »
Donít know about yíall, but Iíve been mildly critical of the V85 in some aspects of itís fuelling.
Compared to the flexible liquid nature of my Norge, the V85 is a little bit ďchoppyĒ and raw. Not bad by any means and Iím happy enough with it.
I have formed the opinion though, that rain mode rounds off the sharp edges in the delivery down around 3,000 rpm and it feels slightly less RBW (which is a feature I detest). I donít perceive any significant drop in passing power that bothers me unduly.
I tend to leave it there... :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2021, 02:58:12 PM »
If your place is anything like Auckland Huzo, it hasn't stopped raining in three months!

Guess what the weather is doing today?  Same!

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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2021, 03:01:03 PM »
If your place is anything like Auckland Huzo, it hasn't stopped raining in three months!

Guess what the weather is doing today?  Same!
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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2021, 03:05:50 PM »
It also deletes some ignition, not just fuel. It detunes your engine for less power. I detest anything that does what that switch does, I also believe this is where most of the mapping weirdness originates. I would leave all that crap OFF
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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2021, 03:05:50 PM »

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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2021, 03:26:57 PM »
It also deletes some ignition, not just fuel. It detunes your engine for less power. I detest anything that does what that switch does, I also believe this is where most of the mapping weirdness originates. I would leave all that crap OFF
It's mostly for car drivers that want to ride mcy's but don't or can't do it well.
Me too.
Itís on there and you have to select one of the three and I agree with your assertions. But I must reiterate, that I donít notice any real world reduction in performance thatís at all invasive.

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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2021, 05:44:36 PM »
My older son, who has not ridden for a long time,  just got his V85.  When I set it up for him, I put it in rain mode to soften it up a bit and give him a chance to learn the bike.  It just seems to take a little edge off the power hit.
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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2021, 10:44:37 PM »
Rain mode on the V85TT does not affect power output.  It just reduces the non-linear throttle control programming a bit, apparently makes ABS and Traction Control a bit more sensitive (Iíve yet to feel those effects and doubt you would on a dry road) and per the owners manual restricts top speed.  I havenít had opportunity to check how maximum speed is limited, but regardless power at any lower speed is completely unaffected and I believe Iíve probably had it to 90 mph or so in Rain Mode without feeling any effect.  If you wanted to go flat out, for example on a European highway, you could switch to Road Mode and then back again easily enough.

I fooled around with all three 2020 modes yesterday while blasting along on a local twisty road.  Rain mode seems the most pleasant to me and ultimately on that kind of road Iíd choose it to make the best time, most easily.

I think the manufacturer screwed up the TBW programming on the 2020 V85TT by trying to make the engine feel extra zoomy, as you open the throttle it gains sensitivity with rising RPM in any of the modes. The result in Road Mode feels gimmicky and contrived to me, slightly notchy and anxious on a bike that is otherwise very settled and predictable.  I think Rain Mode feels considerably better, with less of this effect, and although I havenít ridden one Iíd guess the 2021 model with its revised and extra modes may have addressed the issue.
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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2021, 11:37:18 PM »
Thatís really interesting Tusayan.
It fits with my observations, but I had not joined the dots as forensically as you. Iím glad someone with some diagnostic skills has a similar opinion.
Thanks for your input.

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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2021, 11:57:17 PM »
Donít know about the V85TT but my 2017 Stelvio was very twitchy at light throttle. Installed a Booster Plug that made a huge improvement to the ride.
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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2021, 12:32:39 AM »
I'm beginning to suspect there's significant variation between different bikes.  My V85TT is somewhat less twitchy than my sofa.  Though it's faster, nimbler, and a lot more fun. 

Of course my sofa doesn't have that howling noise from the Anakee Adventure tires.  Maybe I should lean it into the turns harder...

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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2021, 12:07:53 PM »
Experimented with this on the way to work this morning. To me, Rain mode seems to soften the low speed jerkiness I sometimes get. Power didn't seem dramatically impacted. Did see traction control engage on a really nasty bump. I plan to experiment with this a bit more. It was pretty cold and that was distracting me a bit.

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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2021, 12:18:25 PM »
I tend to turn the system off, I find it more trouble than it's worth on the v9.
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Re: Full time V85 rain mode
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2021, 12:21:16 PM »
I tend to turn the system off, I find it more trouble than it's worth on the v9.
Can you disable the modes on the V9 ?
Can you elaborate what you do and why ?

 

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