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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #510 on: December 01, 2021, 04:32:00 PM »
Taz, Darren's looks just like that one, from bikini fairing to the tailpack.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #511 on: December 01, 2021, 06:37:18 PM »
Chad, I had the first or second V85 and V7III in the area. Yep, paid full boat and then some.
The V85 has been sitting behind the dealers for the last three months with a piece of plastic over the hole that should have a cylinder on it. NO Parts! No idea when and neither the dealer or I think the parts ordered will fix the existing problem.
No, I won't elaborate at this time. I'm hopping Piaggio steps up and helps me out. Having a new bike you can't ride sucks.

What did I miss?  I remember you talking about a stumble some point back, but not that you had a failure. What happened? Dropped valve? Burned Valve Seat?  That stinks, I know you were piling the miles on.

Overall though I think the V85 has been a stellar launch and mostly problem free other than the rear hub seal. Here's hoping the V100 is similar and not like the hydro or early 8V or other fiasco's
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #512 on: December 01, 2021, 10:29:27 PM »
What did I miss?  I remember you talking about a stumble some point back, but not that you had a failure. What happened? Dropped valve? Burned Valve Seat?  That stinks, I know you were piling the miles on.

Overall though I think the V85 has been a stellar launch and mostly problem free other than the rear hub seal. Here's hoping the V100 is similar and not like the hydro or early 8V or other fiasco's

And the gearbox oil incorrectly filled causing failures and the stumbling issue in this thread rectified by an updated part and the leaking hub seal. Don't know about most people but that's a bit short of a stellar record for mine. I'm a hard marker I admit. Then there's the stuff that's captured before delivery and addressed on the PD that the owner never sees. 

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #513 on: December 02, 2021, 06:44:47 AM »
Good idea! But who won Bad Chad's HP and Torque contest?  :popcorn:

Several people correctly guessed 115hp, IDK if anyone guessed 115hp/77fp
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #513 on: December 02, 2021, 06:44:47 AM »

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #514 on: December 02, 2021, 08:12:26 AM »
I'm slowly putting together a "final" between those that guessed right on the money.    I should have it together soon.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #515 on: December 02, 2021, 08:49:37 AM »
maybe guess the claimed weight is a good tiebreaker, Chad?
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #516 on: December 02, 2021, 09:22:58 AM »
BD, I've been quiet about it as I am in contact with Guzzi to get it resolved. Short version, the stumbling got way worse and it was unsafe to ride. Wayne said it was demon possed!
I'll respond when it's fixed.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #517 on: December 02, 2021, 10:53:31 AM »
I wonder if you will be able to mount running lights to the exhaust covers, or if engine guards will hide the exhaust a little bike.  I'm sure I will get used to them, but they are the only item that stands out as odd to me.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #518 on: December 02, 2021, 11:50:15 AM »
Well, hello again.  I've been gone for awhile.  Sold my '07 Norge and now riding a '14 CTX700 DCT. Long story.

An email from Guzzi about the New V100 Mandello has revived my faltering pulse.

What a revolutionary new motor! 115 hp from 1 liter with the exhaust coming out the "bottom" of the cylinders instead of the front.  Looks wrong but I could get used to it.

Lets hope they get the plumbing, cams, followers, rear end, and electrical gremlins from prior new issues all sorted before they allow actual sales.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #519 on: December 02, 2021, 09:26:15 PM »
I wonder if you will be able to mount running lights to the exhaust covers, or if engine guards will hide the exhaust a little bike.  I'm sure I will get used to them, but they are the only item that stands out as odd to me.

I'd go with fork mounted running lights.  I can't imagine the shields are stout enough to handle the lights with no vibration.  Then, there is the heat...
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #520 on: December 03, 2021, 07:04:45 AM »
And the gearbox oil incorrectly filled causing failures and the stumbling issue in this thread rectified by an updated part and the leaking hub seal. Don't know about most people but that's a bit short of a stellar record for mine. I'm a hard marker I admit. Then there's the stuff that's captured before delivery and addressed on the PD that the owner never sees. 

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Meh, subjective....... For a brand new model, these are all minor. Pretty good for Moto Guzzi.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #521 on: December 03, 2021, 02:40:15 PM »
Meh, subjective....... For a brand new model, these are all minor. Pretty good for Moto Guzzi.

All minor until it's yours that's having the issues and repeated returns to the dealer for warranty work. Generally a different perspective then.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #522 on: December 03, 2021, 02:46:38 PM »
Jeez, you’re right.
They both have a wheel on each end, it’s uncanny..

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #523 on: December 03, 2021, 10:35:58 PM »
I had a good chat this week with the owner of the local Guzzi dealer (Aprilia, Vespa, Yamaha, Suzuki as well), he is really pumped about the new V100, importer has told him to expect delivery this spring, perhaps as early as May, price not yet confirmed. He has promised me a demo ride as soon as the V100 hits the floor. The owner is a real Italian bike fan and we have been kicking around me trading him one or two of my vintage bikes for a  new Guzzi when the right model shows up for my tastes / needs, I think the V100 may be just what ticks all the boxes.

He is equally excited about the new Aprilia Toureg dual purpose bike, its going to retail about $1000 over the Yamaha Tenere 700 but the Aprilia has a lot more to offer with  more hp and torque, lower weight, more tech etc... sounds like it could be a rwal winner as well.

I was impressed to hear that for 2021 the dealership has sold more V85 TT's than anything Yamaha or Suzuki has to offer that comes close to the style and spec, that's real good news for Guzzi around these parts.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #524 on: December 04, 2021, 02:05:11 AM »
Pete aka "Street" from the Griso Ghetto Forum created this nice image ... ;-)

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #525 on: December 04, 2021, 09:18:20 AM »
I really, really like that.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #526 on: December 04, 2021, 09:41:25 AM »
Nice ,but not sure the tank would fit with all the intake stuff going on between the vee on that new motor

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #527 on: December 05, 2021, 09:50:24 AM »
Nice ,but not sure the tank would fit with all the intake stuff going on between the vee on that new motor

That's okay -- they could just reduce the Griso's fuel capacity somewhat.  Oh, wait a minute...  :grin:

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #528 on: December 05, 2021, 10:42:50 AM »
I really, really like that.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #529 on: December 08, 2021, 01:13:41 PM »
https://www.motociclismo.it/novita-moto-guzzi-2022-79841

Motociclismo reporting OCTOBER 2022 release and a 11,600 Euro sale price
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #530 on: December 08, 2021, 01:16:54 PM »
If so, that should mean a sub $11,000 starting point for USA.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #531 on: December 08, 2021, 01:18:49 PM »
If so, that should mean a sub $11,000 starting point for USA.

How do you figure, Chad? The Euro has been slightly more than the US Dollar for some time now, no?
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #532 on: December 08, 2021, 02:08:09 PM »
How do you figure, Chad? The Euro has been slightly more than the US Dollar for some time now, no?

not a straight currency conversion...  I think the euro price has to include taxes and fees etc... Maybe even VAT 17%(?)

for instance US MSRP on a '21 V7 Stone is $8990 but the Euro MSRP is 9090 euros.

I just hope it comes sooner than october, damn!
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #533 on: December 08, 2021, 03:47:25 PM »
I said $12k for the base model. 
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« Reply #534 on: December 08, 2021, 04:07:23 PM »
Pete aka "Street" from the Griso Ghetto Forum created this nice image ... ;-)



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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #535 on: December 08, 2021, 04:10:32 PM »
I've already carved out space for one in the garage when it becomes available...hoping to see someone carry it soon...sort of doubtful it will be anyone in Houston, most likely AF1 in Austin.  Can't wait to ride one!
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #536 on: January 20, 2022, 08:35:25 AM »
Three things I'm interested in:
  • Panniers: What do they look like, how do they mount/unmount, and how much do they carry?
  • Center stand: As a sport-touring bike, the V100 will encounter nails and screws and other debris that require plugging tires. No centerstand increases the difficulty of roadside repair.
  • Service training: How is Moto Guzzi scheduling training for dealer technicians? With a brand-new engine (cooling, especially), how do they plan to achieve this critical-for-early-adopters training?

I do know that other questions arise (will Bags-Connection attachments exist? Will Givi universal topcase work? Is there even a luggage rack?). For me, though, the three questions above are really important to me.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #537 on: January 20, 2022, 08:52:35 AM »
Three things I'm interested in:
  • Panniers: What do they look like, how do they mount/unmount, and how much do they carry?
  • Center stand: As a sport-touring bike, the V100 will encounter nails and screws and other debris that require plugging tires. No centerstand increases the difficulty of roadside repair.
  • Service training: How is Moto Guzzi scheduling training for dealer technicians? With a brand-new engine (cooling, especially), how do they plan to achieve this critical-for-early-adopters training?

I do know that other questions arise (will Bags-Connection attachments exist? Will Givi universal topcase work? Is there even a luggage rack?). For me, though, the three questions above are really important to me.

1. It is not in the official release info, and ponderously, not one 'youtube vlogger' or moto mag reporter seems to have taken a pic under there at EICMA....  BUT, I read in one of the write-ups (possibly one I had to translate from Italian) that there are bag attatchment points under the tail for a not-yet-revealed set of factory integrated luggage. Take that for what it is worth!

2. I am concerned about this too... tire plugs, tire changes, and valve adjustments are all so much easier with a stand... I have studied every pic that has come out as closely as possible... lacking lower frame rails, there just doesnt seem to be anywhere for a center stand to mount. I am guessing they will not offer it as an option or accessory.. I hope the aftermarket figures something out! (in the SDV thread, Roper seems to believe it will have some sort of hydro valves that dont require adjustments tho FWIW).

3. No idea, and that in and of itself is not very confidence inspiring.  Might not be a big deal for those who buy their bike thru a multi-line dealer that also carries Aprilia... But for those of us who buy from a smaller dealer thats maybe a multi-line powersports type outfit, it is deff a concern!
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