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Your point?You've never walked into any other type of dealership in your life and been blown off by a salesperson? Ever? Did you ask where the owner was? If a salesperson doesn't want to do their job, I ask for the owner or general manager. That is where you get the true feel for the business. Not some person that might not even ride. Sounds like you weren't really that interested.
I stand up occasionally on all my bikes. Usually to stretch my legs and back after a bunch of miles and also to rest my backside. I actually think it is a comfortable position on my GS and dirt bikes.I just sold my GS to downsize on the adventure bike tool. If I was in the market for another big one (had a 1200GS and a Stelvio) I would definitely look at the PA (other than the Griso, I'm going all Blue). Was happy to read Timmy's ride report and impressions of the bike. Sounds like the bike is as good riding as it is on paper.After having a GS for 6 years and 50,000+ miles and 4 Guzzi's for over 100,000 miles combined, I understand the "cost of ownership" thing. I don't think a new HD owner has that much to worry about.Here's to HD for getting this bike right, so far!
I stand on the pegs rarely but occasionally while at slow speeds, like going through a town while on a long ride. The only reasons for this riding position is to either cool and relieve my butt, stretch my legs, or pull my britches legs back down. I could care less if it impresses or offends anyone else as long as it fix’s my issues at the time. As far as the PA HD I’ll definitely take a serious look at them in June when my local dealer says they’ll be out.
Wait!You're point was just the oppositeI have never been ignored at a dealership, unless I want to be.That's what you said the first time. Now you say that you've been blown off. WTF????? ??Get out. Not wasting time with you.
I just can't make some of you happy , first you complain I'm to serious , then you complain when I attempt to be funny . Dusty
and I have ridden litterally thousands.
Hmmm, that sounds like a stretch. I've ridden a *lot* of bikes over the last 60 some years, but I seriously doubt I'd crack 100.
I'm not as concerned about the bike as I am their new CEO. >SNIP<
I'm not as concerned about the bike as I am their new CEO. He's indicated (with his so-called "rewire" plan) he wants to double-down on Harleys core constituents, and sell big expensive bikes with high margins. The first thing he did as CEO was drop (or at least slow way down..time will tell) the Bronx and other models based around the new engine. I seriously suspect he would liked to have killed the Pan America, but development was too far along. He's cut lots of other mainstay models from the air-cooled line up as well. I think his turn-around plan of "sell less-and-less for more-and-more" is absolutely the wrong way to go, but the board of directors didn't ask me.
The point is, don’t ride a Harley, no matter how ugly it is.
One guy apparently rode one, the guy who "literally has ridden "thousands" of motorcycles" Think about that, how long would it take to ride just 2000 motorcycles? But hey, Timmy said so, so who are we too question? He says it so incredible it can't possibly weigh well over 500, must only be 400 and some change!
You know, I find the look of the PanAm to be almost refreshing compared to all the bird beak bikes.Sarah
Boy Harley really gets people riled up!I'll just be over here standing on my pegs and letting the wind gently rustle my nards
Back to the point of the original post, that the bike is FAR BETTER than expected is a revelation. It's possible that HD has finally had a real paradigm shift and is now building real performance motorcycles on their own? I'm looking forward to seeing some additional road tests and one at my local dealer. Looks like the Pan America is just the first step in a long overdue diversification of their lineup. At $20K it had better be. They'll need some additional models at lower price points if they really expect to lure more riders to the brand to address their aging demographic problem. Wishing HD all the best with their attempt to remain competitive and a viable US based manufacturer.
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