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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2020, 04:49:30 AM »
Quite the project Huzo.  Could I impose on you to take a picture of the swingarm pins and the bearings in the transmission where the swingarm attaches?  My V85 is squeaking and I think I need to remove the swingarm and grease those bearings  but looking at the manual I can't quite figure out what is what.  I took the arm off my V7 a few years ago and it had a similar setup and I remember measuring the distance the pin was inserted into the transmission so that the swingarm was centered but after that I cannot recall much.
Ok mate..
I took the shots but have selfishly been out on the Norge today, but here they are.
You’ll notice that the pin on the right hand (brake pedal) side is different than the left (gear change side)
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The right hand one winds in and terminates against an abutment and at this point the spigot is fully engaged in the race.
The left side winds in by means of an Allen key and is nipped up by hand against the race.
The lock nut is the wound on over the head of the pin and that’s it..!




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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2020, 08:43:43 AM »
Thanks for the pictures, seems a bit different than the V7 setup but not by much.  Looking at the diagrams the bearings are sealed types and I'm not sure where my squeak is coming from or if greasing those pins would solve the issue.  I have the bike on the table and will remove the rear wheel and shock which should allow me to move the swingarm up and down and get a sense of how the bearings are holding up.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2020, 08:59:42 AM »
Personally yes, but that's because I don't chrome/silver and definitely don't have a wire wheel fetish.
Having said that, I think you are doing the right thing by modifying your bike to suit your taste. Well done and as  someone noted above  - you're fun to watch.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2020, 03:32:38 AM »
Tomorrow is the beginning of the wheel relacing.
The rear is 2-2 pattern like the Norge so will be relatively easy to achieve.


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The hubs have their top coat on and are baking, so should be as hard as the proverbial by morning..


Can’t wait...!
Also first coat of etch primer on the swingarm-bevelbox and other paraphernalia.
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Re: V85 facelift
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2020, 05:12:56 AM »
Are you going to make the wheels tubeless?
I got good results from Sikaflex 291 Marine sealant.
But I only paid $11 for the regular size tube, I think they may have screwed up and charged the same price as the small toothpaste size.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2020, 05:34:08 AM »
Are you going to make the wheels tubeless?
I got good results from Sikaflex 291 Marine sealant.
But I only paid $11 for the regular size tube, I think they may have screwed up and charged the same price as the small toothpaste size.
Yes mate tubeless it is.
There are 2 new Pilot 5’s to go on. Thanx for the info on the sealant, I was unsure of the best direction there.. :thumb:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2020, 06:06:46 AM »
Got a bit done today.
The silver is in progress but I ran out before completing the bevelbox. Got to here on the wheels so will start truing them tomorrow.
Here they are.


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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2020, 06:15:28 AM »
Dang, Looking good! :thumb: :bow:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2020, 06:23:10 AM »
Dang, Looking good! :thumb: :bow:

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I think it will come out ok..
If I find a Termignoni or Akropovic muffler under the bed, I’ll probably throw that on too. You never know what’s under there... :wink:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2020, 10:47:53 PM »
About to start on the wheels when I get back from Adelaide.
Here is the scene of destruction thus far








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The bevelbox would be on, but I didn’t buy enough paint... :embarrassed:
Old mate Baz will do it for me tomorrow... :thumb:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2020, 03:58:34 PM »
We are waiting ...  :grin: :popcorn:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2020, 05:20:28 PM »
So am I mate..
I am returning from an interstate trip in the truck and have not been able to get my grubby paws onto the job. The bevelbox is done now and will be fitted today and I will start to true the wheels. I have the Sikaflex 291 for spoke sealing and the new Pilot 5’s.
The plastic fork guards in the front will get some attention too.
I’m as toey as a Roman sandal...

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2020, 06:31:55 PM »
GT or trail rd 5?
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2020, 06:46:03 PM »
I got nothing to add....except here to enjoy your nutty-ness of a great job! :boozing: :popcorn: :thumb:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2020, 11:15:37 PM »
GT or trail rd 5?
I asked for Pilot Road 5’s and haven’t looked at them yet.
They have road tread.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2020, 05:56:56 AM »
Looking good, if only the engine was silver too... :smiley:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2020, 07:12:41 AM »
Looking good, if only the engine was silver too... :smiley:
I initially thought to do that, but felt that it was a bridge too far.
I would not rule out dropping the sump and doing that the same silver as the other cycle parts.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2020, 07:33:05 AM »
Nice!  I'm particularly partial to shiny things. :thumb:
I just know if I read that comment too many times, I’m bound to say something.....”nutty”... :wink:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2020, 09:36:35 PM »
If I could get out of this damn truck and get home, I’d have the V85 back together and be truing the wheels.
Gone all week, currently country NSW en route to Melbourne.
Here’s the last bit painted.


CANNOT WAIT to get those wheels done and on.... :thumb:
These things are in for some treatment..


Either they will be removed completely, remade in stainless or colour matched red or Green/White/Red like these...


I do have the Aprillia Caponord front guard which is a bolt on job, but the jury is out on that at this stage.... :clock:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2020, 06:01:04 PM »
Progress...






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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2020, 04:37:32 AM »
Moving right along..
The work on the frame and rear end is fundamentally finished. Today I assembled and trued the wheels.
Here’s the front one. https://youtu.be/2wr_DtvE8z8

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2020, 09:46:58 AM »
 :thumb: Looking foward to the final result.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2020, 03:45:07 AM »
So am I mate..
I had high hopes to have the wheels back into the ‘85 this weekend but have not managed to. The wheels are trued and tyres fitted, but my compressor did not have the pressure/flow to inflate the tyres. There is a gap between the tyre and inside of the rim that usually flexes out enough for initial inflation but my setup was found wanting.
Tomorrow I’ll get them inflated, then balance and re fit.
The Sikaflex 291 did a great job sealing the spokes so cautious optimism there.
Here they are anyway.




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« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2020, 08:49:03 AM »
. . . I added up what this bike owes me . . .
No matter what I spend on my Stelvio, it'll never owe me a Penny.
It pays it all back in spades the second I let the Clutch out, every single time!!  :thumb:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2020, 04:36:22 PM »
No matter what I spend on my Stelvio, it'll never owe me a Penny.
It pays it all back in spades the second I let the Clutch out, every single time!!  :thumb:
Yes John.
I didn’t mean it that way but your point is valid, I feel the same about my Norge.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2020, 04:49:16 PM »
27 grand eh....
Not hard to do when the starting price is near 22 grand, luggage 3 grand, centre stand 200, heated grips near 600 etc, etc
Doesnt do the heart any good to add it all up, (says he who has a complete log of every cent spent on the mk 3 lemans since aug 87 and over 333,000 km)
Looking forward to see how this looks when you are finished.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2020, 05:53:07 PM »
27 grand eh....
Not hard to do when the starting price is near 22 grand, luggage 3 grand, centre stand 200, heated grips near 600 etc, etc
Doesnt do the heart any good to add it all up, (says he who has a complete log of every cent spent on the mk 3 lemans since aug 87 and over 333,000 km)
Looking forward to see how this looks when you are finished.
Cheers
Yeah ...
I think it’s closer to 29.....
Luggage, stand, engine bars $4,000
Mandrel bent exhaust.          $1,000
Ohlins rear shock.                $2,000
Wheels.                               $700
GPS.                                   $500
Nickel plating.                      $300
All for a good cause though.... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2020, 03:37:57 AM »
Yes John.
I didn’t mean it that way but your point is valid, I feel the same about my Norge.
Yeah, I knew!
Norge, but what about the V85? 
Have you not reached that stage with it yet?   :laugh:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2020, 03:48:21 AM »
So am I mate..
I had high hopes to have the wheels back into the ‘85 this weekend but have not managed to. The wheels are trued and tyres fitted, but my compressor did not have the pressure/flow to inflate the tyres. There is a gap between the tyre and inside of the rim that usually flexes out enough for initial inflation but my setup was found wanting.

Buy tyre fitting lube, cheap from any auto place, makes world of difference
And remove valve before trying to seat bead, the valve is big restriction to flow

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2020, 06:59:11 AM »
I asked for Pilot Road 5’s and haven’t looked at them yet.
They have road tread.

I believe both are street tread.  The difference is whether they fit sport touring or adventure  bikes.
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