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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2013, 09:22:24 AM »
Considering the level of finish and components, I don't think the price is out of line. To be perfectly fair, i think you also need to put a price on the fact that nothing on this bike needs to be "sorted" as is so common with our fair. Seriously- think of the dough and time you need to spend with the average Guzzi to get it running right. The whole idea that I need to put a power commander on my 1200 just so it won't pop and detonate is ridiculous.
That is one of the reasons I went with the 2012 Griso. It had been out for a few years with nothing but praise for the fueling. There were some issues with the 2009's, but the revised fueling was all good. I just wanted to buy the bike and ride. I didn't want to have to fool with it and spend money on day one of ownership.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2013, 10:35:50 AM »
I gotta say my 2012 Griso has been trouble free. High idle issue before the first service and that was fixed. Regular hooligan bike.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2013, 11:41:21 AM »
Does nothing for me, reminds me of this:









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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2013, 08:59:44 PM »
I don't want to sound like a fan boy, but NOTHING about this bike looks cheap if you see it in the flesh. Paint, aluminum bits, fit, engine design, the whole thing say that this was designed from the ground up with a substantial investment in R&D.

Kind of like the Kawasaki W800. I wish Kawasaki would bring the W stateside.

I saw the CB1100 a couple years ago at the MSTA STAR event in Colorado. Honda was looking for feed back from the hundreds of riders that attended. I guess the feedback was positive enough for them to bring it here. I'm glad they did.

I like it, and think it's beautiful.

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Re: Honda CB1100!
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« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2013, 09:29:26 PM »
I saw and was able to sit on the new CB1100 today. It looked smaller in reality than the pictures had made me think.

It's a well-done retro.  I like it.

The dealer said he'd had many people look at it and eeeew and awww and talk about how they used to have one like it ....  He said they'd then go on and look at something else.  So, he is getting a lot of admiration but no sales yet.

Sound like the GB500?

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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2013, 10:07:35 PM »
Some fork gators might remedy that.

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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2013, 10:15:39 PM »
Kind of like the Kawasaki W800. I wish Kawasaki would bring the W stateside.

I saw the CB1100 a couple years ago at the MSTA STAR event in Colorado. Honda was looking for feed back from the hundreds of riders that attended. I guess the feedback was positive enough for them to bring it here. I'm glad they did.

I like it, and think it's beautiful.
I also wish Kaw would bring the W800 into the USA.  Guess they're afraid of the same reception as with the W650.  I owned one from Aug 2000 until the spring of 2007.  It was not only well finished cosmetically, mechanically it was totally trouble-free, for 52,000 miles.

If I do decide the Griso8VSE isn't the bike for me, I would certainly consider the Honda CB1100.  I need to see one in the flesh .... all I've seen is pics.

The comments about tire kickers looking at the bike but not buying ...... it's no wonder Kaw won't bring the W800 into the US.  Honda may have done well to have required a deposit, rather than relying on the old "bring it to us, we'll buy it" line, from the US bike magazines.  What the hell do they buy ..... I think their demo bike cost them nothing.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #67 on: June 25, 2013, 10:31:40 PM »
considering the my Bandit, SV1000, Speed Triple, FZ-1, Z1000/Ninja 1000, CB1000R, Monster, Brutale, Grisso, even my V11 Sport........  modern bikes with power and handling. 

Nope, (still) don't get it.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #68 on: June 25, 2013, 11:40:37 PM »
I saw and was able to sit on the new CB1100 today. It looked smaller in reality than the pictures had made me think.

It's a well-done retro.  I like it.

The dealer said he'd had many people look at it and eeeew and awww and talk about how they used to have one like it ....  He said they'd then go on and look at something else.  So, he is getting a lot of admiration but no sales yet.

Sound like the GB500?

My working theory is that they will sell the CB1100 to all the guys drooling over them, the market will then be saturated - after about a year or two and they'll drop it. But in Phoenix the interest has been darn good and they don't spend time on the showroom floor. I suspect that won't last.

But hey, if it turns into another W650, then I'll have a cult bike!   :BEER:
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2013, 04:42:44 AM »
Does nothing for me, reminds me of this:

That's the whole idea.
It's SUPPOSED to remind you of that.

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The WHOLE idea is that it did nothing for me back then.

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« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2013, 04:49:58 AM »
..and that's the biggest reason we have choice! Not everyone wants the same thing.

I don't get it.
Literally and figuratively!

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« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2013, 08:55:58 AM »
I also wish Kaw would bring the W800 into the USA.  Guess they're afraid of the same reception as with the W650.  I owned one from Aug 2000 until the spring of 2007.  It was not only well finished cosmetically, mechanically it was totally trouble-free, for 52,000 miles.

If I do decide the Griso8VSE isn't the bike for me, I would certainly consider the Honda CB1100.  I need to see one in the flesh .... all I've seen is pics.

The comments about tire kickers looking at the bike but not buying ...... it's no wonder Kaw won't bring the W800 into the US.  Honda may have done well to have required a deposit, rather than relying on the old "bring it to us, we'll buy it" line, from the US bike magazines.  What the hell do they buy ..... I think their demo bike cost them nothing.

As you know, the W650 was introduced before Triumph brought out their modern Bonne. I believe the fact that the Bonne is popular would actually help W sales if Kaw were to bring it stateside. Choice, in this case, would be a good thing methinks. Side by side the W is less cluttered than the Bonne and is more svelte. Plus, it has a true long stroke motor, and that W motor is a real gem.

I think the guy or gal that is interested in this type of bike is not all that concerned about hp and torque numbers as they are about the look, feel, fit, and finish of the bike. I believe the W has got the Bonne beat in those areas.

Not to mention there are a lot more Kaw dealers than Triumph dealers. Blah blah blah, this topic has already been beaten to death on multiple forums over the years. I'm just being selfish cuz I want a new W800 and can't get one while the rest of the world can. :'(

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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2013, 08:57:08 AM »
OK, got to put some time on the freeway last night and found out this is one sneaky bike. There is a bit of the beast in her above 5000rpm. I'm supposed to keep her below 6K for the first 600 miles (darn easy to do, 3K around town is ideal and 4 puts you about 70mph in fifth) so I'm trying to be careful to not unleash her (the Griso was way too willing to romp) which so far is not a problem.

Honda has a 115mph limiter on them (left over from the home market firmware from what I've been told) but below that, this motor is more than willing. Oops.  ;D
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2013, 01:17:11 PM »
Ron is it time to uncork that CB1100 now with a pipe and Powercommander-V :-)

Don't forget to let the shoulder heal up!!!
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2013, 01:24:55 PM »
I don't like the seam along the edge of the tank. Looks cheap. Like the CB750. Oh yeah, that's what Honda was trying to do!?
I agree with the seam on the tank - I see it on so many bikes these days, it is an eyesore to me.

I saw pictures of it with hard cases and it looked good - I would have posted a pic but I can't figure out how without a url.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2013, 02:34:59 PM »
Being a teenager in the 70's, this is what a motorcycle is supposed to look like.  I don't want one, but one of my buddies does bad.  I do think Honda nailed the look and accomplished what they set out to do and it is a nice looking machine.    ;-T

I have no problem with the tank seam, that's how tanks of that era were made! Better than swelling plastic tanks.   ;D

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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2013, 02:58:36 PM »
Ron is it time to uncork that CB1100 now with a pipe and Powercommander-V :-)

Don't forget to let the shoulder heal up!!!
Chris

I'm too cheap to do that. Besides; I"ve heard your stories and I'd just as soon avoid all that; sounds too much like work. :)

However; I would consider that four into four. Oh man that looks damn good.

Besides; if I wanted that sort of bike the CB1100 was the wrong bike to get. But I was thinking today, maybe I should purge the Griso and get a Racer.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #77 on: July 09, 2013, 08:24:58 AM »
Yesterday my girlfriend's father and I went looking at bikes at several dealers, something we do when we visit in Ohio. We saw the offerings from just about every brand at 3 different shops. Of all the bikes I saw the CB1100 was the one I liked the best. Fit and finish is outstanding and the 4 cylinder air cooled motor looks huge. If I had 11k burning a hole in my pocket and room in the garage, I would buy one.

I also sat on a Ducati Panigale R. That is one tiny bike, both in legth and width. The thing that stood out on that bike was it came equipped with passenger foot pegs, but they were so high that even a midget would have her knees pressed up against her chest when seated. ???
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2013, 08:36:11 AM »
considering the my Bandit, SV1000, Speed Triple, FZ-1, Z1000/Ninja 1000, CB1000R, Monster, Brutale........  modern bikes with power and handling. 

Nope, (still) don't get it.

Vive La Choice!

Considering there's not a bike on that list (I edited) that I have the SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN OWNING, YET I'D CONSIDER THE CB means YOU don't have to get it...
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2013, 11:07:39 AM »
Vive La Choice!

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Considering there's not a bike on that list (I edited) that I have the SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN OWNING, YET I'D CONSIDER THE CB means YOU don't have to get it...

And this coming from a guy who usually dismisses Hondas as boring, and also doesn't like bikes with more than two cylinders (some triples not withstanding).

If I didn't already have a V7C, I'd be torn between the new CB and a red & white V7 Special.   I'd have to get a test ride on the CB to know which I'd choose.
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« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2013, 11:27:52 AM »
If I didn't already have a V7C, I'd be torn between the new CB and a red & white V7 Special.   I'd have to get a test ride on the CB to know which I'd choose.
I can completely relate. I just went through this dilemma a few months ago. The V7C won. The CB1100 wasn't available for a test ride -- if it was, the outcome may have been different.

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« Reply #81 on: July 09, 2013, 01:15:08 PM »
I have been looking at the V7's, the CB1100 and a few other models quite hard and was concerned that the CB1100 would be either a replacement for the Griso (to much overlap in capabilities) or too similar to the V7.

Looks like it is more of a V7 replacement, kinda sorta. It runs in town much better than the Griso (a duty the V7 was to do) but it's too heavy to be an ideal town bike. If I need a lighter bike I have the XR650L with dual sport tires; torque off the chart and plenty of room for my 36" inseam (long legs and arms have been a big problem finding decent candidates for riding).

Too bad Moto Guzzi does not make a bike like the CB1100 chassis with V8 850cc to 1200cc motor. The ergos for me are much better on the CB but on the road I like that Griso motor (in town, not so much, especially in the summer as the heat just boils off it).

I like the front office of the CB and the V7's because I'm partial to round analog gauges.

So now I'm kinda looking at the racer again; better leg room than the special and it's not a standard like the CB.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2013, 02:01:07 PM »
The CB is a beautifully executed design with top notch fit and finish. But the V7 with a longer range, lighter weight, and shaft drive checks all the boxes for my needs.

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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2013, 07:35:20 PM »
If I didn't already have a V7C, I'd be torn between the new CB and a red & white V7 Special.   I'd have to get a test ride on the CB to know which I'd choose.

The CB is a beautifully executed design with top notch fit and finish. But the V7 with a longer range, lighter weight, and shaft drive checks all the boxes for my needs.

I'd have to agree with Paul, that the nod would have to go to the V7 for the reasons he stated.   I certainly haven't even considered giving up my V7C for a CB1100, but have already thought about trading it on a beautiful new red & white V7 Special.

Had Honda saw fit to put a 5 gallon tank on it, that would tilt things a little more even, but I still prefer not to have to mess with chain maintenance on the V7.
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2013, 08:00:32 PM »
Ideally it would be nice to have all of them.  ~;
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2013, 08:22:26 PM »
Ideally it would be nice to have all of them.  ~;

Yes it would, but I already seem to have too many....   ::)
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« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2013, 09:20:58 PM »
2012 V7 on this forum for sale cheap!!   As much as I like the Honda, at his $7500 asking price what a value!
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« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2013, 09:27:53 PM »
It's a 2013, and not far from you!

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« Reply #88 on: July 09, 2013, 09:35:34 PM »
Yes, and its really nice. But o have reduced the herd down to three bikes with a great deal of effort. Must not backslide....must nooootttt. 
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Re: Honda CB1100!
« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2013, 01:29:21 PM »
So after all of the fanfare, has anyone actually seen a CB1100 on the road, at least in the U.S.? I haven't. Wonder if it will be pulled from the market after a year or two, like the W650. I hope not.

 

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